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Topic Title: Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities
Topic Summary: real "progress"
Created On: 12/16/2014 01:36 PM
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 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - WG - 12/16/2014 01:36 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - worksuxgetsponsered - 12/16/2014 02:17 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Greensleeves - 12/16/2014 02:22 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - tpapablo - 12/16/2014 03:55 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - WG - 12/16/2014 04:39 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - havanabama - 12/17/2014 08:09 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Sparky - 12/22/2014 05:35 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/22/2014 06:27 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - SurferMic - 12/22/2014 06:35 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - WG - 12/22/2014 07:32 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - KillerWhale - 12/22/2014 08:19 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - tom - 12/22/2014 07:00 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 07:56 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - scombrid - 12/23/2014 08:02 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - tom - 12/23/2014 08:03 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 08:10 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - scombrid - 12/23/2014 08:27 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 08:31 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 11:57 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - KillerWhale - 12/23/2014 12:09 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 08:16 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - scombrid - 12/23/2014 08:59 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 09:07 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - scombrid - 12/23/2014 09:20 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - worksuxgetsponsered - 12/23/2014 09:30 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - tom - 12/23/2014 09:32 AM  
 per month Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 09:34 AM  
 per month Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - KillerWhale - 12/23/2014 09:42 AM  
 per month Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - scombrid - 12/23/2014 10:27 AM  
 per month Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Cole - 12/23/2014 10:43 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 10:44 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - c-rad - 12/23/2014 10:34 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Sparky - 12/24/2014 04:46 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Cole - 12/24/2014 07:14 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/24/2014 07:46 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - eibla - 12/23/2014 08:40 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 08:44 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - scombrid - 12/23/2014 08:57 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - eibla - 12/23/2014 09:05 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - KillerWhale - 12/23/2014 09:06 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 09:09 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 09:04 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - eibla - 12/23/2014 10:55 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - worksuxgetsponsered - 12/23/2014 10:58 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 11:13 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Cole - 12/23/2014 01:14 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 03:09 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - scombrid - 12/23/2014 06:30 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Cole - 12/23/2014 08:01 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - eibla - 12/23/2014 03:32 PM  
 Yo....moron:Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 03:43 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 04:18 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/23/2014 03:45 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - KillerWhale - 12/23/2014 04:00 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - eibla - 12/24/2014 07:59 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - ArtintheHood - 12/24/2014 08:02 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/24/2014 08:04 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/24/2014 08:09 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - c-rad - 12/23/2014 10:31 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/24/2014 06:30 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - WG - 12/24/2014 08:46 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Cole - 12/24/2014 09:03 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Barneysfrank - 12/24/2014 09:05 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - LBLarry - 12/24/2014 09:05 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Cole - 12/24/2014 09:11 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/24/2014 09:21 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - Fish Killer - 12/24/2014 09:23 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - johnnyboy - 10/07/2016 06:09 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - johnnyboy - 10/07/2016 06:20 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - tpapablo - 10/07/2016 07:00 AM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - dingpatch - 10/07/2016 06:01 PM  
 Tesla Gigafactory will scare utilities   - WG - 10/08/2016 09:11 AM  
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eibla

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: eibla



As soon as you get by the initial amp surge (and that's what batteries are for), 5.6 KW will run it quite nicely. Seeing as how Fecknut is using 27 KWH a day, apparently he's not running his AC very much. I'd do the math but you wouldn't understand it anyway. High efficiency Solar panels and the associated storage and wiring schemes to obtain an efficiency are admittedly expensive....right now. But it's getting cheaper. Earlier this month the Aussies came up with a wiring schematic that, even with cheaper photo cell technology can wrestle a 40% efficiency out of the things.







Best you don't argue with engineers you just advertise your ignorance even further.




Yo....moron:



http://sunelec.com/datasheet-l...w-230w-255w.pdf



No...it won't!



How many batteries will it take to provide the current required to run that AC when the sun isn't up?



Let me guess...you only plan to have that AC running for 4.5 hours a day?



You get about 4.5 hours of that a day here in Florida....full sun.



What are you going to do for the rest of the day and night?



You have no power to charge batteries.



What about a refrigerator?



Well pump?



Lights?



Hot water?



Microwave?



Range?



What are you going to do if it rains for a week straight?





You aren't an engineer....you're are a TOTAL fool!



oh...and had you actually read the information above (which you obviously didn't)...I have an electric draw of appx. 1400kwh per month....that's about 45 kwh per day! Moron!


Actually it's closer to 47KW/day, the 27 was a typo.

In your illogical rage against conservation and pollution, what you fail to see is that NOBODY here says you can run ALL your appliances ALL the time with an affordable photo-cell solar system...yet. Apparently you are also unaware that what's called "hard start" kit, which is relatively cheap and is basically a large capacitor in series with a relay. The battery stored power coupled with a hard start kit (with no other appliances turned on) would start your A/C just fine. Once started the power demand drops and a properly sized photo cell array would keep it running. The tech today is not perfect but it's improving steadily, NO ONE here is saying you can go completely off the grid except for places with little total cloud cover but we ARE saying you can cut your usage down CONSIDERABLY.

What do you do when your power goes out due to a storm? If you have a petro generator you use it to power the essentials, like the fridge, fans and lights. With a solar array you can do the same thing ALL THE TIME. Save yourself some money (which Repugnicans love to do) and help conserve resources and cut pollution for everyone.

You are such a FOOL, you don't even know what your arguing about, just that logical people are FOR something, so you are AGAINST it.


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The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness -
John Kenneth Galbraith
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