09/18/2017 11:57 AM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: miker As long as the right of others aren't infringed upon or laws broken in the practice of a religion, you are free to believe in whatever bat shit crazy version of the invisible man/woman in the sky you want in this country Banning something and not supporting it are two different things.
If a libtard says that, you accuse them of supporting/defending sharia.
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09/18/2017 12:05 PM
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miker
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: miker As long as the right of others aren't infringed upon or laws broken in the practice of a religion, you are free to believe in whatever bat shit crazy version of the invisible man/woman in the sky you want in this country Banning something and not supporting it are two different things.
If a libtard says that, you accuse them of supporting/defending sharia.
Actually you have that backwards. Fringe liberals are the ones to label people as Islamaphobes and Xenophobes for not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam.
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09/18/2017 12:20 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: miker Actually you have that backwards.
No
Fringe liberals are the ones to label people as Islamaphobes and Xenophobes for not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam.
That isn't what gets you the label.
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09/18/2017 12:21 PM
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miker
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: miker Actually you have that backwards.
No
Fringe liberals are the ones to label people as Islamaphobes and Xenophobes for not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam.
That isn't what gets you the label.
Sure it does in the eyes of many liberals. Just like not supporting illegal immigration makes you a racist and a xenophobe.
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09/18/2017 12:27 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: miker Sure it does in the eyes of many liberals. Just like not supporting illegal immigration makes you a racist and a xenophobe.
That isn't what gets you the label.
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09/18/2017 12:30 PM
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miker
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: miker Sure it does in the eyes of many liberals. Just like not supporting illegal immigration makes you a racist and a xenophobe.
That isn't what gets you the label.
You are wrong about that. Simply being against illegal immigration is enough to get you that label.
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09/18/2017 12:23 PM
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worksuxgetsponsered
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Its not a claim, DoD mandate is a DoD mandate. A lot of times it was called EEO training or HR training It was required by every unit to do so. Ground pounders more than anyone else have down days, so Job classification has nothing to with it. Like I said, you had the training. If you didn't go had poor leadership. I know that's not the case. MARINES ARE AS BY THE BOOK as the come.
I never went through any of that training.
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09/18/2017 12:23 PM
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WG
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Originally posted by: miker
Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: miker As long as the right of others aren't infringed upon or laws broken in the practice of a religion, you are free to believe in whatever bat shit crazy version of the invisible man/woman in the sky you want in this country Banning something and not supporting it are two different things.
If a libtard says that, you accuse them of supporting/defending sharia.
Actually you have that backwards. Fringe liberals are the ones to label people as Islamaphobes and Xenophobes for not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam.
Then there are no fringe liberals. Nobody is called those things for just not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam. Get thicker skin.
Being opposed to the LSoS's stupid Muslim ban, supporting humanitarian compassion for refugees is not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam, it's just being a being an American who understands what this country was built on. Being for it is irrational and most of the rhetoric of that sack of shit and his followers demonizes peaceful Muslims (most of them) along with the fucking assholes.
I would fight along side of you to prevent fundamentalist Islam from gaining any control of American law, as would almost all Americans. But that's a silly fantasy anyway, zero chance of it ever happening and bringing it up just plays into the racists riling up the MAGA morons.
As far as privilege in America being mostly socioeconomic, of course dude, that's a no brainier, has been true since the dawn of human civilization. The privilege us white people have in America, a nation only a century and a half away from an economy based upon race based enslavement and only decades from racist law is on top of that (wealthy dark skinned people fear police violence as much as the poor). It's also still a big part of why people of color are still struggling to climb out of the bottom of that socioeconomic pile.
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09/18/2017 12:25 PM
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miker
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Originally posted by: WG
Then there are no fringe liberals. Nobody is called those things for just not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam. Get thicker skin.
Does that mean there is no alt-right then as well?
Also, if nobody is called those things then what is the thicker skin needed for?
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09/18/2017 12:29 PM
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scombrid
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Originally posted by: miker Originally posted by: WG Then there are no fringe liberals. Nobody is called those things for just not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam. Get thicker skin. Does that mean there is no alt-right then as well? Also, if nobody is called those things then what is the thicker skin needed for?
Are you deliberately misunderstanding his post?
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09/18/2017 12:33 PM
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miker
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: miker Originally posted by: WG Then there are no fringe liberals. Nobody is called those things for just not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam. Get thicker skin. Does that mean there is no alt-right then as well? Also, if nobody is called those things then what is the thicker skin needed for?
Are you deliberately misunderstanding his post?
Nope and I understood him just fine. I posted what I did to make a point. (well part of it to make a point anyways...)
The truth is, supported by a mountain of evidence, that there are many many people that will attach a racist/xenophobe label to you simply because you are against illegal immigration or against taking in refugees. Your reasons don't matter.
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09/18/2017 12:49 PM
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WG
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Originally posted by: miker
Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: miker Originally posted by: WG Then there are no fringe liberals. Nobody is called those things for just not supporting fundamental/conservative Islam. Get thicker skin. Does that mean there is no alt-right then as well? Also, if nobody is called those things then what is the thicker skin needed for?
Are you deliberately misunderstanding his post?
Nope and I understood him just fine. I posted what I did to make a point. (well part of it to make a point anyways...)
The truth is, supported by a mountain of evidence, that there are many many people that will attach a racist/xenophobe label to you simply because you are against illegal immigration or against taking in refugees. Your reasons don't matter.
Not true. If you are just opposed to illegal immigration, you focus on fixing the busted system that makes needed workers come here illegally. You don't use racist words and imagery like Trump and his deplorable idiots do when talking about the undocumented.
I'm not sure I have ever seen you use those terms, nor do I think I have/would call you a racist.
But I do think your opposition to any Muslim refugees, your support for the lying sack of shits Muslim bans does seem to be based on an irrational fear of terrorism or a Muslim takeover and not based in any real understanding of the refugee programs (although you have defined the root of that somewhat). Still feels Islamaphobic.
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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill
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09/18/2017 12:26 PM
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miker
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Originally posted by: WG
As far as privilege in America being mostly socioeconomic, of course dude, that's a no brainier, has been true since the dawn of human civilization.
Right, which is why I was arguing so vehemently with Hap.
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