Ah, the courage and vision to bring back the redwood plank to ride the "rollers" at the pier.

We will let economics decide the issue, not the gov't.

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The economics has decided, natural gas is cheaper and more effective, hence the reason it has replaced coal. A natural gas pipeline is being set through central Florida at this very moment.

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I was right.

The PiC decided. Now, economics will decide. Question though. If coal is dead in any event, why are you progs raising such hell about this? According to what you are saying, this will affect nothing.

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I spend my life in the outdoors, both in private and professional. In essence, trump is killing the environment out of spite and to bring back something that no longer exists.

That is my concern.

Do you actually believe that allowing increased pollution into rivers is a fcking good thing?



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I was right.

The free market doesn't care about human life.

There's nothing wrong with capitalism balanced with a humane morality.

You don't pay very good attention some times, so I will spell it out again for you, not like this will help you get it.

It won't do much to increase coal miners jobs because they were lost to automation, not regulation.
It won't do a lot to increase coal production because the market for coal is slowed by natural gas & fracking. The market doesn't need or want more coal.

LOL @ "economics will decide" This is a perversion of the market, a subsidy, a favor to contributors. Horrible news for a free market economy.

It won't increase our "energy independence" because that is meaningless jargon.

It is a lifeline to the coal mine owners, will allow them to keep producing a little longer.
It will stall the very real need to quickly reduce coal production.


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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

I repeat, if no more coal will be mined - which is what you contend, why will this "kill millions?" And how will owners get rich if no coal is being mined or, if it is, it can't be sold? What subsidies?

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Same coal. More pollution.

Same coal. More pollution.

Same coal. More pollution.

If gross take stays the same and the cost goes down because you are dumping the negative externalities on the commons...

 

Pretty sure there's a graph of production linked in this thread that puts the lie to this assertion.

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Economics says you dump all the slurry into the valley and let the stream below flow with acid and metals. Economics says you discharge all the sulfur you want into the air.

That is unless you put a price tag on the pollution.

 

Incorrect.

The jobs that are gone are not coming back.

Coal will still be mined and there may even be an uptick in tons hauled if allowing the producers to freeload on the commons makes the sale price a bit lower.

That uptick in production will come at a massive pollution cost but will produce few new jobs.

 

 

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economics.

let the big guys freeload on the commons with massive negative externalities.

economics.

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