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Originally posted by: Cole It's been more than 2,000 years. When is all this healing supposed to take place?

Hey Cole, Jesus heals all the time.  He's the same yesterday, today, and forever.  I've personally witnessed countless healings.  Jesus said lay hands on the sick and they'll recover.  I don't understand it, and I certainly don't understand why some get healed instantly and others don't.  It's not my place to try and have it all figured out, I just know I can trust Him and His Word and I'll keep going for it.  

This is one of the first healing miracles I witnessed and had the pleasure of being a part of.  I'll never forget a middle school aged kid in my youth group back in the early 2000s who came to church all bummed that he delveoped some condition in his knee (Osgood schlatter disease) and he couldn't play football anymore.  He had tremdous pain and walked with a limp and everything.  I had the other kids lay hands on him according to the Word and just pray that Jesus would heal him.  As God as my witness that kid said he felt fire in his knee and I asked him if the pain was gone.  He said yes.  I asked him to do something he couldn't do before and he bent down all the way to the ground with no pain.  I asked him to walk around and his face was beaming as there was no pain.  He then took off running and did a few laps around the sanctuary just sprinting with no pain and the kids were cheering and clapping and it was pretty amazing.  

Another time there was a lady in our church with lung cancer and tumors all throughout both lungs.  She had done some procedures to prepare for a surgery to remove them.  Before the surgery she came for prayer and one of the pastors who I was on staff with really loved to pray for the sick.  I've witnessed this dude pray for hundreds of people and they get healed and it never gets old, but this one had documentation which is why I recall it so well.  She came up front to be prayed for and again described a fire going through her chest.  She said she just knew she was healed.  She goes back to the hospital and insists that they take more pre-op xrays.  They already had the xrays of the tumors in her lungs but she insists.  Lo and behold she gets the xrays done again and her doctor enters the room with a TEAM of other doctors.  They are in disbelief as the xrays revealed absolutely no tumors.  She was of course boisterous and one of those Christians you'd laugh at for being a fanatic as she told them about Jesus and how He healed her.  When Jesus touches you though you're changed, you just are.  Why do you think I'm a Jesus freak?  Needless to say they canceled this lady's surgery and literally wrote "miracle" on her medical chart.

All I can tell you is what I've witnessed.  Jesus is the real deal.  There's a lot of hokey stuff on the internet, but here's one that I believe is a real miracle also.  It was produced by skeptics and I still don't think they believe judging from the host's reaction at the end but maybe it will help someone out there struggling: CrazyEyeMiracle 

 

 



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@GsusSurfs - calling BULLSHIT. Nothing but a bunch of lies hiding behind religion. Assuming attendance is heading down and you are getting desperate. Well, LYING ain't gonna draw people to your church
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Originally posted by: TunnelVision @GsusSurfs - calling BULLSHIT. Nothing but a bunch of lies hiding behind religion. Assuming attendance is heading down and you are getting desperate. Well, LYING ain't gonna draw people to your church

Only my family and friends could tell you I don't have the capacity to be a sociopathic liar.  If it makes you feel better I can probably track down the kid who's knee got healed.  You probably wouldn't believe him either though.  

I could tell you about the lady who came to Paradise the day we did some live music and a cookout for everyone at the park.  It rained and so a lot of people came under the pavilion for shelter.  There were at least 60-70 people there when I shared a strong "impression" I had that I recognized as being from God.  I don't always get it right, in fact I've prayed for lots of people who DO NOT get healed.  Enough do, though, and even though I don't understand why I'll always go for it.  God loves people and so do I.  That's why I do it.  A healed thumb might not be a big deal to you, but when it's your thumb that's in terrible pain and you get free of it is a big deal to you.  

So anyway there's plenty of people to witness when I spoke out this impression that I had.  I said, "is there anyone here that has been having nagging lower back pain (I pointed right to the location) for the last 5 years?  It came from some kind of accident and I believe God is showing me this because He is going to heal you."  Immediately this lady in the back shot her hand up.  I asked her if she would mind telling us what was going on.  She said she just moved to the area two weeks prior with her boyfriend (he was there).  She said 5 years ago she was living in Michigan, driving in the snow, her car slid off the road and she hit a guardrail.  She said it was a bad accident and she's had nonstop lower back pain for the last 5 years.  Now I don't care who you are that's pretty incredible.  I even asked her if we had ever met or anything like that and of course we hadn't and she and her boyfriend acknowledged that.  Becuase as a skeptic watching this take place, of which there were many, that could be the only rationale you could have.  That or calling me a liar.  Anyway I didn't even pray for her.  I asked some other ladies to come and pray for her.  I asked her after prayer where her pain level was on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being unbearble pain.  She said an 8 before prayer and for the last 5 years.  After praying she said it was a 3-4.  So the ladies kept at it and after praying again she testified her pain was a 0.  She was bending over and checking it out and everything.

Now only she really knows the depth of this confirmation to her of God's love in a genuine and personal way.  Even her boyfriend who stood there with that sort of dazed look in his eye didn't quite get how profound of a moment that was for her.  And that's the point, God wants us to know in a very personal, intimate way how deep is His love for us.  That's why Jesus came, to show us to point of laying down His life.  

Listen bro I work a day job and have a wife and three kids to feed and when I do have free time it's to surf when there are any waves whatsoever.  I'm not trying to grow a church and could care less about attendance.  I don't even ask for offerings and I've actually taught AGAINST tithing as it's 1 of 613 laws that were never meant for us.  The whole reason I'm out there is because I love the beach and the ocean and PEOPLE.  To feel connected to the Almighty through worship is absolutely amazing and I love to do it.  COTB is just an open experience for anyone that wants to join.  My whole message is to change your mind about God and realize you DON'T need religion.  You don't need to try and please God or earn His approval.  Jesus did that for us.  There's a place of divine rest in Christ, a place of unspeakable joy.  

Anway yeah to the point of healing Jesus loves to heal.  TunnelVision how's your back?  Would you believe if Jesus healed you too?



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Originally posted by: GsusSurfs

Originally posted by: TunnelVision @GsusSurfs - calling BULLSHIT. Nothing but a bunch of lies hiding behind religion. Assuming attendance is heading down and you are getting desperate. Well, LYING ain't gonna draw people to your church




Only my family and friends could tell you I don't have the capacity to be a sociopathic liar.  If it makes you feel better I can probably track down the kid who's knee got healed.  You probably wouldn't believe him either though.  




I could tell you about the lady who came to Paradise the day we did some live music and a cookout for everyone at the park.  It rained and so a lot of people came under the pavilion for shelter.  There were at least 60-70 people there when I shared a strong "impression" I had that I recognized as being from God.  I don't always get it right, in fact I've prayed for lots of people who DO NOT get healed.  Enough do, though, and even though I don't understand why I'll always go for it.  God loves people and so do I.  That's why I do it.  A healed thumb might not be a big deal to you, but when it's your thumb that's in terrible pain and you get free of it is a big deal to you.  




So anyway there's plenty of people to witness when I spoke out this impression that I had.  I said, "is there anyone here that has been having nagging lower back pain (I pointed right to the location) for the last 5 years?  It came from some kind of accident and I believe God is showing me this because He is going to heal you."  Immediately this lady in the back shot her hand up.  I asked her if she would mind telling us what was going on.  She said she just moved to the area two weeks prior with her boyfriend (he was there).  She said 5 years ago she was living in Michigan, driving in the snow, her car slid off the road and she hit a guardrail.  She said it was a bad accident and she's had nonstop lower back pain for the last 5 years.  Now I don't care who you are that's pretty incredible.  I even asked her if we had ever met or anything like that and of course we hadn't and she and her boyfriend acknowledged that.  Becuase as a skeptic watching this take place, of which there were many, that could be the only rationale you could have.  That or calling me a liar.  Anyway I didn't even pray for her.  I asked some other ladies to come and pray for her.  I asked her after prayer where her pain level was on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being unbearble pain.  She said an 8 before prayer and for the last 5 years.  After praying she said it was a 3-4.  So the ladies kept at it and after praying again she testified her pain was a 0.  She was bending over and checking it out and everything.




Now only she really knows the depth of this confirmation to her of God's love in a genuine and personal way.  Even her boyfriend who stood there with that sort of dazed look in his eye didn't quite get how profound of a moment that was for her.  And that's the point, God wants us to know in a very personal, intimate way how deep is His love for us.  That's why Jesus came, to show us to point of laying down His life.  




Listen bro I work a day job and have a wife and three kids to feed and when I do have free time it's to surf when there are any waves whatsoever.  I'm not trying to grow a church and could care less about attendance.  I don't even ask for offerings and I've actually taught AGAINST tithing as it's 1 of 613 laws that were never meant for us.  The whole reason I'm out there is because I love the beach and the ocean and PEOPLE.  To feel connected to the Almighty through worship is absolutely amazing and I love to do it.  COTB is just an open experience for anyone that wants to join.  My whole message is to change your mind about God and realize you DON'T need religion.  You don't need to try and please God or earn His approval.  Jesus did that for us.  There's a place of divine rest in Christ, a place of unspeakable joy.  




Anway yeah to the point of healing Jesus loves to heal.  TunnelVision how's your back?  Would you believe if Jesus healed you too?



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Originally posted by: GsusSurfs

 

All I can tell you is what I've witnessed.  Jesus is the real deal.  There's a lot of hokey stuff on the internet, but here's one that I believe is a real miracle also.  It was produced by skeptics and I still don't think they believe judging from the host's reaction at the end but maybe it will help someone out there struggling:

 

Ronald Coyne is just another con man. He finally gets to reading around the 3:13 mark in the video. He's using his functioning eye to look down the gap between the covering and his nose. That's a simple magician's trick.

Why not have him tested by an opthamologist with once of the vision test devices that correctly obscures one eye so that the other can be tested?

 "blindfolded reading trick" is old hat and well documented. Coyne's ability to read with his eye socket is not verified by any method other than him performing something plenty of magicians already do.

 

 



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Originally posted by: GsusSurfs
Originally posted by: Cole It's been more than 2,000 years. When is all this healing supposed to take place?

 

Hey Cole, Jesus heals all the time.  He's the same yesterday, today, and forever.  I've personally witnessed countless healings.  Jesus said lay hands on the sick and they'll recover.  I don't understand it, and I certainly don't understand why some get healed instantly and others don't.  It's not my place to try and have it all figured out, I just know I can trust Him and His Word and I'll keep going for it.  

 

This is one of the first healing miracles I witnessed and had the pleasure of being a part of.  I'll never forget a middle school aged kid in my youth group back in the early 2000s who came to church all bummed that he delveoped some condition in his knee (Osgood schlatter disease) and he couldn't play football anymore.  He had tremdous pain and walked with a limp and everything.  I had the other kids lay hands on him according to the Word and just pray that Jesus would heal him.  As God as my witness that kid said he felt fire in his knee and I asked him if the pain was gone.  He said yes.  I asked him to do something he couldn't do before and he bent down all the way to the ground with no pain.  I asked him to walk around and his face was beaming as there was no pain.  He then took off running and did a few laps around the sanctuary just sprinting with no pain and the kids were cheering and clapping and it was pretty amazing.  

 

Another time there was a lady in our church with lung cancer and tumors all throughout both lungs.  She had done some procedures to prepare for a surgery to remove them.  Before the surgery she came for prayer and one of the pastors who I was on staff with really loved to pray for the sick.  I've witnessed this dude pray for hundreds of people and they get healed and it never gets old, but this one had documentation which is why I recall it so well.  She came up front to be prayed for and again described a fire going through her chest.  She said she just knew she was healed.  She goes back to the hospital and insists that they take more pre-op xrays.  They already had the xrays of the tumors in her lungs but she insists.  Lo and behold she gets the xrays done again and her doctor enters the room with a TEAM of other doctors.  They are in disbelief as the xrays revealed absolutely no tumors.  She was of course boisterous and one of those Christians you'd laugh at for being a fanatic as she told them about Jesus and how He healed her.  When Jesus touches you though you're changed, you just are.  Why do you think I'm a Jesus freak?  Needless to say they canceled this lady's surgery and literally wrote "miracle" on her medical chart.

 

All I can tell you is what I've witnessed.  Jesus is the real deal.  There's a lot of hokey stuff on the internet, but here's one that I believe is a real miracle also.  It was produced by skeptics and I still don't think they believe judging from the host's reaction at the end but maybe it will help someone out there struggling: CrazyEyeMiracle 

 

 

 

 

 

In the time it took you to make that post, half a dozen children literally died of starvation on the other side of the globe. Why doesn't your God love them?

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