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Fish Killer

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Didn't read this one either...idiot!

Preach the Word
1I solemnly charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by His appearing and His kingdom: 2preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with great patience and instruction. 3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires,...

You're as dumb as a box of rocks!

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Fish Killer

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"Actually this was JOHN who called them vipers "somebodyelseotherthanachristian

And then lets not forget this so that you can't claim (as you have^^^above^^^) that areas of Scripture were just written by a man:

2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness..

FOOL!


And lets get another thing straight....this is all Jesus speaking. Do notice MORON, that he didn't talk to them first' as yoyu claim a person must before rebuking them! Also notice that Jesus didn't talk to the money changers first before he whipped the CRAP out of them and over turned their tables in his Fathers House! Did you ever wonder why exactly? Nope not you...cause you're an IDIOT!:

Matthew 23
A Warning Against Hypocrisy

1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.

5"Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteriesa wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called 'Rabbi' by others.

8"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11The greatest among you will be your servant. 12For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.

Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

13"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14]b

15"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

16"Woe to you, blind guides! You say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.' 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, 'If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.' 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.

23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices - mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law - justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

29"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

33"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.















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 04/23/2015 05:09 AM
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somebodyelse

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You wrote a list of COMMANDS, you said everyone is bound by these COMMANDS>>

You then cited the following verses as evidence of your righteousness:>>

Matthew 23
A Warning Against Hypocrisy

1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. >>

JESUS is referring to YOU here You are the man who lays the buden of COMMANDS on everyone and as I've shown you exempt yourself from obeying the very COMMANDS you lay on everyone else

5"Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteriesa wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called 'Rabbi' by others.

8"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. 11The greatest among you will be your servant. 12For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
You are the Man about who this is written, You exault yourself and claim knowledge of GOD, YOU list COMMANDs given by GOD and lord it over all that YOU FOLLOW those COMMANDS Righteously then you excuse your actions  quibbling about inside the church or outside.
Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees

13"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14]b >>

This is YOU. YOU shut the Door by claiming that None here but YOU are following the COMMANDs of GOD so they are not going into Heaven BUT ALSO YOU DON"T FOLLOW THE VERY COMMANDS YOU CITE. YOU ARE WHO JESUS IS TALKING ABOUT.

15"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are. >>

You again. You make 28,900 posts , have yet to make a convert and you would convert them to a list of Odius COMMANDS. >>

WHAT IS THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT??? LOVE GOD with your whole heart and soul AND LOVE YOUR NIEGHBOR AS YOURSELF.

16"Woe to you, blind guides! You say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.' 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, 'If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.' 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it. >>

YOU ignore the Spirit of GOD and swear by the COMMANDS that you have cherry picked out of the Bible.>>

The Spirit of GOD is what is sacred, you have made the COMMANDs and the Bible Sacred. Which is greater the Spirit of GOD or the Bible and you interpretations of its COMMANDS?

23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices - mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law - justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. >>

DO YOU EVEN READ WHAT YOU CITED?? The More important matter of the law is NOT YOUR COMMANDS but they are Justice, Mercy and Faithfulneess.YOU stick to the letter of the COMMANDS you claim we are bound by and have lost justice, and MERCY

25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. >>

The LAW, the COMMANDMENT are all about cleaning the outside of the cup. YOU ARE THESE Pharisees, you are all about the Obedience to the COMMANDs. Clean your inside, purify your spirit and the outside is clean also. IF YOU PURIFY yourself then the LAWS, the COMMANDS are fulfilled also.

27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness. >>

This is you, you stand on your righteousness and stand on the COMMANDS that you believe GOD laid on everyone BUT you are full of Hypocrisy not obeying the very COMMANDS you lay on everyone else.

29"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started! >>

YOU SAY these are the COMMANDS that GOD LAID ON US. Just as the Pharisees said this is the LAW of MOSES. You are saying exactly what the Pharisees said to the people of their day. THIS IS THE LAW... THESE ARE THE COMMANDS OF GOD... you are the SAME

33"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation. >>

TRULY this was spoken about you Fish Killer:>>

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4 They tie up heavy burdens and lay them on people's shoulders, but will they lift a finger to move them? Not they!<>>



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"My brand of Christian is better than your brand of Christian"?

Whats the diff?

Sunni v. Sheia ?

Morons
Fools
rebuked


oh my.........

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