Topic Title Retro Fish
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10/12/2015 10:33 AM Posted By: vtecmonster
I screwed myself and watched this video the other day: http://youtu.be/l7a57AyuWFI Now I can't stop thinking about retro fishes... I'm thinking I need to buy one. :/ I'm looking for the fastest board I can get! Does anyone have an info on Tom Neilson's "classic fish"? Thx! http://www.tomneilsonshapes.com/surfboards/classic_fish.php I love the outline of it
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10/12/2015 10:37 AM Posted By: RioSirju
That wave at 0:43 !!! |
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10/12/2015 11:52 AM Posted By: Long Beard
a must have for every quiver.
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10/12/2015 11:57 AM Posted By: TunnelVision
Never tried a retro, but looks quite loose to me. Just expect a lot of time getting used to it. I love fishes in general though, and after getting used to them, I no longer really like surfing standard shorties anymore.
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10/12/2015 01:23 PM Posted By: DatGuy
I have a Tom Neilson retro fish. Super fast. Super fun. Love it! Get one. |
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10/12/2015 01:32 PM Posted By: johnnyboy
I love my Chris birch fish. It's perfect on those numerous onshore chunky days.
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10/12/2015 02:37 PM Posted By: dan
Just my 2 cents but there are a ton "fishes" out there and they have their good and bad points but to truly get the traditional fish speed and flow you should look for someone who can replicate the Lis outline. And in my opinion no one does this better than Larry Mayo. His Lis style fish is almost a perfect replica and provides for an absolutely amazing wave riding experience. I rode mine all through this last run of waves, even on the biggest days and it was magical. |
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10/12/2015 03:09 PM Posted By: Griffin15
I recomend one of Starr's retro fishes, they are priced very well and they are very fast and fun. Go to core surf and talk to Dennis about them, mention my name (griffin) |
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10/12/2015 03:52 PM Posted By: RioSirju
Stoked someone name dropped Mayo, he's the guy around here if you're gonna go retro. & Other than Lis Pavel, there D. Kane. An EAST COASTER! edit: oh geez, I got confused with Pavel & DJ Kane |
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10/12/2015 04:01 PM Posted By: Long Beard
the best thing i ever did was come to the realization that I'll never surf like the guys on tour, so theirs really no reason to be riding the same boards as them. I'm riding twinnies, single fins, quads, LB's, stubby weird little things, beak nose boards etc... Pretty much everything except for the standard performance shortboards that I grew up on. The fun factor has gone up 110%. Just some food for thought.
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10/12/2015 05:16 PM Posted By: dingpatch
Twin Fin Porn
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10/12/2015 05:43 PM Posted By: LostSherpa
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10/12/2015 06:36 PM Posted By: Griffin15
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10/12/2015 07:16 PM Posted By: Av8Surf
I have three twin fins. If you don't have one, well... Never mind. A 6' 2 Chris Birch poly with glassed in fins, stu sharp 62 AMT twins and my newest acquisition is a Channel islands Merrick twin fin MTF. This is a 1995 Rod Muchado design that was resurrected in 2009. It also has glassed fins. Seen here: http://youtu.be/nPksnR9ny_o Awesome for shoulder and under.
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10/13/2015 05:27 AM Posted By: tom
Does it count as retro if your "retro fish" is stringerless epoxy with modern concaves on the bottom? Neilson (retro?) Fish. One of my all time favorite boards.
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10/13/2015 05:49 AM Posted By: FinGuru
Go to Core Surf...good selection of used and new retro fishes! I just snagged a 5'0 |
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10/13/2015 06:06 AM Posted By: stokedpanda
Not sure the hydrodynamics of it all but I have never found any advantages to a twin over a quad, except it being looser (too loose in most cases so not an advantage IMO). I was curious if the two less fins (less drag) gave any additional speed? If not the loss of drive to me does not seem worth it as it is tough to predict how hard you can push them in a turn before they break loose, where as a quad holds much better and slides with a tad more control IMO. Other than wanting to do 360's anyone prefer twins to quads? ------------------------- I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life |
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10/13/2015 07:42 AM Posted By: matt_t
5-10 Birch Fish. 11 yr old magic board!
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10/13/2015 05:27 PM Posted By: RioSirju
@tom it totally counts as your 'retro' fish has the 'retro' outline @stokedpanda Theres a major difference in Twin vs Quad to me, but mainly depending on what board you choose to ride... A Kookbox twin pin, or a twin keel fish? Then you have the design and foil of the fin to look at, consider MR twin fins.. |
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10/14/2015 05:27 AM Posted By: TATTOO74
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10/14/2015 06:00 AM Posted By: LongboardsnDonuts
Just Shaped this -> ------------------------- "Man is the only creature who refuses to be what he is" a.camus |
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10/14/2015 06:46 AM Posted By: Plan B
yeah, there's some truth to that..... but the dude in that first video was ripping.... drawing some sick lines. I see some more $$ being wasted in the near future |
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10/14/2015 07:13 AM Posted By: dan
If you're the spendy type you could have a legit Steve Lis fish. Surfy Surfy has one in stock, a true barn find. Only $1800!
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10/14/2015 07:29 AM Posted By: Plan B
HA. That's a plane ticket to Hawai'i + 2 new boards |
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10/14/2015 11:30 AM Posted By: artz
That Lis, is one sweet looking Board.
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10/14/2015 11:58 AM Posted By: fredman
Nice looking board Longboardsndonuts. You've got some other nice looking boards too. Any time you feel like selling one of those, let me know. I recognize you (based on your instagram stuff)...surfed with you at a somewhat secret spot in north boca area on a refraction swell last year, I think. You were on a Pavel; your buddy (maybe brother, not sure) was on a Griffin. I was on a Mayo round tail quad. Was a really fun day. Anyway, back to board pron and discussion of fishies. |
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10/14/2015 08:31 PM Posted By: LongboardsnDonuts
I remember you fredman! You were getting some long ones! I'll be sure to let you know about the boards. ------------------------- "Man is the only creature who refuses to be what he is" a.camus |
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10/16/2015 04:33 PM Posted By: TunnelVision
i never really understood the purpose of the swallow tail. Does this just make it easier to turn since its so wide.
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10/17/2015 03:57 AM Posted By: dan
I believe a swallow gives you the longer rail line fo say a pin but the looseness of a squash. Kind fo blends snappy turns with a rail that can hold in a steeper face. |
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10/17/2015 05:15 PM Posted By: Long Beard
LongboardsnDonuts that thing looks soon good!!!
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10/18/2015 02:29 PM Posted By: TunnelVision
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10/19/2015 01:02 PM Posted By: artz
The wide swallow tail allows for a wider tail. Wider tail means more surface area and that =more speed. The tail also gives the board some hold when you lay it over in a turn Think of that tail as a pin tail. This was the what Lis came up with after looking at the very fast yet hard to turn planning boards of Simmons. Lis wented speed and the ability to turn. The wide split tail did just that. the Keel fins held the board in the wave. Now the modren fish benifits from better rockers and fins. The speed dialer set up workes great. |
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10/21/2015 08:22 AM Posted By: LongboardsnDonuts
Perfect description artz. ------------------------- "Man is the only creature who refuses to be what he is" a.camus |
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10/22/2015 05:27 AM Posted By: artz
Thanks Longboards, I Keep thinking about getting a bigboy fish. Might sell a couple of boards and get Someone in San Diego to build one. |
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09/13/2016 10:19 AM Posted By: KP
Loved this comment! wider than aunt jemima, and thicker than granny's glasses Lol
when I ride my twin with glass=ons, it's a dream everytime. It's 5'10, wider than aunt jemima, and thicker than granny's glasses. I can sit outside with the longboarders, and rip it all the way to the beach. Never losing speed, unless I dish it on purpose. Speed, wave-count, and fun are increased while the guys on chips are scratching their heads.... From http://www.surfline.com/blogs/...narrow-boards-a_40518/ ------------------------- Time and tide wait for no one..... |
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09/13/2016 10:30 AM Posted By: SpinK
Just my 2 cents but there are a ton "fishes" out there and they have their good and bad points but to truly get the traditional fish speed and flow you should look for someone who can replicate the Lis outline. And in my opinion no one does this better than Larry Mayo. His Lis style fish is almost a perfect replica and provides for an absolutely amazing wave riding experience. I rode mine all through this last run of waves, even on the biggest days and it was magical. What dan said.... ------------------------- 
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09/13/2016 01:44 PM Posted By: dan
That comment is fantastic KP! I recently fell back in love with one of my Mayo Twin Keels. I recently purchased a single fin mid length and have been loving that but I took out my twinnie during the good day of the Hermine Swell (went up to Playalainda for those nice offshores) and the twin was on fire! Barrels all over the place and just super cruisy fun. I'll always have one in my collection for sure. |
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09/13/2016 05:52 PM Posted By: foam ball
I have a lis inspired fish I shaped 6 years ago, still get a smile every time I take it out. I picked up a bat mod retro twin a few months back. Popped some of the al merrick twins in, board turned into instant magic. If you don't own a retro style fish you are missing out.
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09/13/2016 06:22 PM Posted By: CERTON
I know this has been done before, but it might be time for another Brevard County Fish Fry...
FISH FRY 2014 from Deus ex Machina on Vimeo. ------------------------- "Don't count the days, make the days count." -Ali #rydyrstrong |
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09/13/2016 06:53 PM Posted By: whitey
I'm down for a Brevard fish fry! Set it up @ spessie??? |
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09/13/2016 07:05 PM Posted By: CERTON
I'm down for a Brevard fish fry! Set it up @ spessie??? Yezzir! South Park. Fish Quiver: 5'3 Munn Wunderfish twin keel glass on (all volan) 5'5 Mayo twin keel glass on (volan/marine ply) 5'6 Hanel twinzer glass on (cherry wood) 5'7 Weston twin keel glass on (marine ply) 5'7 Pavel "Superbank" twin keel lok box (travel beater) 5'7 Pavel/Tomo collaboration twin keel glass on (cosmic collision) 5'9 Mayo twin keel glass on (bamboo) ------------------------- "Don't count the days, make the days count." -Ali #rydyrstrong Edited: 09/14/2016 at 03:23 AM by CERTON |
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09/14/2016 02:45 AM Posted By: Mr. Long
I'm a dedicated longboarder, but every once in a while I bring out the 5'10 Neilson Retro with wood keel fins. I thought about selling it, since I don't ride it very often, but after riding it on Labor Day, it's staying.
Catches waves easily and speeds down the line.
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09/14/2016 06:05 AM Posted By: ILM
Got to have a fish in the quiver, best decision I have made in a long time. I shaped this and ride it anywhere from 2' to well OH. Basically my go to board.
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09/14/2016 06:08 AM Posted By: Plan B
Unless you own a surfshop, how do actually ride that many boards (particularly similar vein) we hardly get surf? |
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09/14/2016 07:07 AM Posted By: CERTON
Owning a surf shop would only detract from all the time we get in the water now.
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09/14/2016 07:29 AM Posted By: CERTON
And that's just the fishes...
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09/16/2016 07:16 AM Posted By: jeff kennedy
Bitchin! Miss the rail fins. Are the keels vented? Freddy make me one PLEASE! |