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Topic Title: What Happened to the River?
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Created On: 09/02/2020 04:47 AM
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 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 09/02/2020 04:47 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - kreidel - 09/02/2020 05:13 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 09/02/2020 08:02 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 09/25/2020 05:40 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 09/26/2020 09:51 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 09/27/2020 11:28 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - surfmcc32 - 09/28/2020 05:32 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 09/28/2020 06:18 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 09/28/2020 03:10 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 09/30/2020 08:47 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/05/2020 02:36 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 10/02/2020 09:11 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 10/02/2020 03:13 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - inletbum - 10/04/2020 09:34 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tom - 10/04/2020 10:58 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - SurferMic - 10/05/2020 08:44 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/05/2020 05:46 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/05/2020 05:51 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tom - 10/06/2020 06:29 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/06/2020 05:39 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/06/2020 05:43 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/15/2020 06:30 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/15/2020 06:32 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 11/28/2020 09:37 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tertle - 11/28/2020 03:55 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 11/29/2020 10:02 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 10/05/2020 09:21 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 10/05/2020 01:19 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 11/30/2020 10:54 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tertle - 11/30/2020 06:38 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 12/01/2020 06:25 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 12/01/2020 06:32 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/02/2020 04:55 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/02/2020 05:04 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 12/02/2020 06:35 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/03/2020 08:21 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 12/10/2020 01:40 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - inletbum - 12/11/2020 03:53 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/11/2020 05:36 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 12/11/2020 06:30 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 12/11/2020 01:29 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/16/2020 11:49 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/16/2020 11:53 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 01/20/2021 06:17 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 01/21/2021 06:38 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 01/29/2021 05:30 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 02/01/2021 09:22 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 03/17/2021 05:15 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - waterlizard25 - 03/29/2021 08:17 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 03/18/2021 05:58 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - TATTOO74 - 03/18/2021 06:16 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 03/18/2021 10:55 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 03/18/2021 11:56 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - TATTOO74 - 03/18/2021 01:02 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 03/18/2021 02:56 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - RocketSurf - 04/01/2021 09:19 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 04/09/2021 01:59 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 04/10/2021 08:24 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - spindrift - 04/12/2021 02:36 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 04/12/2021 04:00 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 04/13/2021 07:16 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/15/2021 05:06 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 04/15/2021 09:45 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 04/16/2021 08:27 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 04/20/2021 07:00 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - waterlizard25 - 06/11/2021 01:43 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 06/13/2021 08:37 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - equipeola - 06/15/2021 08:03 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 04/20/2021 12:51 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 04/24/2021 10:23 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - crankit - 05/09/2021 07:25 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 06/21/2021 05:50 AM  
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 03/18/2021 10:55 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: stokedpanda the dying man-yetis are getting some attention and I cant help but think they are part of the problem, giant lawn mowers also pretty sure they eat the grass and roots. Now people are tyring to get tons of lettuce to feed them, which can cause bacteria and other problems uggh
Manatees only cause measurable damage to sea grass when the carrying capacity of the lagoon is significantly reduced by some other shock. If you have 5% of the grass and 50% of the manatees then they are going to over-eat what is left of the grass. The Manatees are only "part of the problem" because the whole system has basically collapsed.

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Originally posted by: scombrid

Originally posted by: stokedpanda

the dying man-yetis are getting some attention and I cant help but think they are part of the problem, giant lawn mowers also pretty sure they eat the grass and roots. Now people are tyring to get tons of lettuce to feed them, which can cause bacteria and other problems uggh


Manatees only cause measurable damage to sea grass when the carrying capacity of the lagoon is significantly reduced by some other shock. If you have 5% of the grass and 50% of the manatees then they are going to over-eat what is left of the grass. The Manatees are only "part of the problem" because the whole system has basically collapsed.


very true, and if they were to try replanting grass if that is even a thing they would find and munch it quick, maybe they can pen up some areas up shallow.

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Ahhhh Sea Grass !!!! I didn't have my third cup of coffee yet this morning
 03/18/2021 02:56 PM
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scombrid

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Similar thing happens in lakes with turtles. Lake used to have lots of grass. Grass gets nuked by a hurricane and algae blooms from nutrient overload. Try to re-establish grass through planting. Starved turtles eat all the new plants. Re-veg requires a big system reboot. Just planting new plants won't kick it back the other way. There are a lot of good papers out there on "altered stable states" and what it takes to kick them back into a condition you prefer.

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