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Topic Title: What Happened to the River?
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Created On: 09/02/2020 04:47 AM
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 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 09/02/2020 04:47 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - kreidel - 09/02/2020 05:13 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 09/02/2020 08:02 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 09/25/2020 05:40 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 09/26/2020 09:51 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 09/27/2020 11:28 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - surfmcc32 - 09/28/2020 05:32 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 09/28/2020 06:18 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 09/28/2020 03:10 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 09/30/2020 08:47 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/05/2020 02:36 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 10/02/2020 09:11 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Big John - 10/02/2020 03:13 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - inletbum - 10/04/2020 09:34 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tom - 10/04/2020 10:58 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - SurferMic - 10/05/2020 08:44 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/05/2020 05:46 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/05/2020 05:51 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tom - 10/06/2020 06:29 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/06/2020 05:39 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/06/2020 05:43 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/15/2020 06:30 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 10/15/2020 06:32 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 11/28/2020 09:37 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tertle - 11/28/2020 03:55 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 11/29/2020 10:02 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 10/05/2020 09:21 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 10/05/2020 01:19 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 11/30/2020 10:54 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - tertle - 11/30/2020 06:38 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 12/01/2020 06:25 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 12/01/2020 06:32 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/02/2020 04:55 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/02/2020 05:04 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 12/02/2020 06:35 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/03/2020 08:21 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 12/10/2020 01:40 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - inletbum - 12/11/2020 03:53 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/11/2020 05:36 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 12/11/2020 06:30 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 12/11/2020 01:29 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/16/2020 11:49 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 12/16/2020 11:53 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 01/20/2021 06:17 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 01/21/2021 06:38 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 01/29/2021 05:30 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 02/01/2021 09:22 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 03/17/2021 05:15 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - waterlizard25 - 03/29/2021 08:17 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 03/18/2021 05:58 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - TATTOO74 - 03/18/2021 06:16 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 03/18/2021 10:55 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 03/18/2021 11:56 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - TATTOO74 - 03/18/2021 01:02 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 03/18/2021 02:56 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - RocketSurf - 04/01/2021 09:19 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 04/09/2021 01:59 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 04/10/2021 08:24 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - spindrift - 04/12/2021 02:36 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - jdbman - 04/12/2021 04:00 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 04/13/2021 07:16 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - StirfryMcflurry - 04/15/2021 05:06 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 04/15/2021 09:45 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 04/16/2021 08:27 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - scombrid - 04/20/2021 07:00 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - waterlizard25 - 06/11/2021 01:43 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 06/13/2021 08:37 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - equipeola - 06/15/2021 08:03 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 04/20/2021 12:51 PM  
 What Happened to the River?   - Cole - 04/24/2021 10:23 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - crankit - 05/09/2021 07:25 AM  
 What Happened to the River?   - stokedpanda - 06/21/2021 05:50 AM  
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 09/25/2020 05:40 AM
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jdbman

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"...In the lagoons, our waters look horrible. The algae bloom has consumed the entire north and central Indian and Banana River system from Scottsmore to Melbourne. "

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 09/26/2020 09:51 AM
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Cole

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Gotta have those green lawns.

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 09/27/2020 11:28 AM
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Big John

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I wish the problem was as simple as lawn fertilizer. I'm sure that lawn fertilizer contributes to the problem but is not the major cause any longer. Outdated sewer systems and increasing populations beachside and Viera etc. So sad!
 09/28/2020 05:32 AM
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surfmcc32

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Is there any way to deal with weeds in the grass that isn't detrimental to the river? Taking care of my moms house down here and the hoa is complaining about a mix of weeds and grass..a buddys yard was essentially taken over by dollar weeds and I actually like it better.
 09/28/2020 06:18 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: Big John

I wish the problem was as simple as lawn fertilizer. I'm sure that lawn fertilizer contributes to the problem but is not the major cause any longer. Outdated sewer systems and increasing populations beachside and Viera etc. So sad!


I'll agree to disagree, fertilizer seems to be most of the problem. The river goes bad after little rain events, events that are too small to flood septic systems. More people, more houses, more green lawns, more crap that run into the rivers.

My son wanted to catch some little tarpon, so he caught some Pilchards in a Cocoa Beach canal and took them to a baby tarpon spot in Merritt Island. They died as soon as they hit the water from lack of DO. Not good.



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 09/28/2020 03:10 PM
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Big John

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Well you may be right. If so, let's ban the crap right now. I'm sure golf courses would be pissed but homeowners shouldn't care that much.
 09/30/2020 08:47 AM
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Cole

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Cocoa Beach CC is using something that is supposedly much better for the environment than normal fertilizer. Unfortunately, with some many underlying issues, there is no way to know if it's helping or not.

Curing our green grass addiction would do wonders, but that will never happen. The same can be said for the old septic systems.

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 10/05/2020 02:36 PM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: Big John I'm sure that lawn fertilizer contributes to the problem but is not the major cause any longer.
Sadly it still is. The load from lawn fertilizer has not gone down. The wet season ban is largely ignored. It may even backfire as people are apt to feed like crazy just before the ban kicks in and then you get a little rain in May and the lagoon goes to poop. Yes septic and leaky sewer are huge problems. But the fact that the blooms are following rains and the clear is following dry shows that runoff is a big factor along with rain driven mobilization of shallow ground water loaded with poop and causing bad sewers to leak more. Remember the winter bloom that caused the big kill in March 2016? That one was fueled by one of the wettest and warmest winters on record.

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Edited: 10/05/2020 at 02:38 PM by scombrid
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