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Topic Title: "The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans"
Topic Summary: Trump Administration shows their incompetance yet again
Created On: 03/24/2025 11:32 AM
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 03/24/2025 11:32 AM
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Bamboo

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This is what happens when talk show hosts, bro buddies, and other unqualified people are put into positions above their abilities....
Again, you can't make this shit up.

WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT:
"The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans," by The Atlantic's Jeffrey Goldberg: "The world found out shortly before 2 p.m. eastern time on March 15 that the United States was bombing Houthi targets across Yemen. I, however, knew two hours before the first bombs exploded that the attack might be coming. The reason I knew this is that Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, had texted me the war plan at 11:44 a.m. The plan included precise information about weapons packages, targets, and timing. ...

"I could not believe that the national-security leadership of the United States would communicate on Signal about imminent war plans. I also could not believe that the national security adviser to the president would be so reckless as to include the editor in chief of The Atlantic in such discussions with senior U.S. officials, up to and including the vice president. ... I have never seen a breach quite like this." The NSC confirmed it was real and said it was investigating.

https://www.theatlantic.com/po...e=firefox-newtab-en-us
https://www.politico.com/newsl...und-the-world-00132333

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 03/24/2025 11:53 AM
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Interesting read
WTAF

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 03/24/2025 12:16 PM
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Bamboo

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This is a colossal fk up on several levels.

At the least those involved should be investigated for security violations along with the actual data spill.
The app Signal is not approved for government use...and certainly not for sensitive or classified information....like an immanent attack where leaked data could have endangered the people and the mission.

Do you think they went through the process to get an exemption to use Signal?
Nah, they are lazy fks.

Believe me, if this was a line level person they would be investigated and at the least receive a security infraction, but probably a security violation...or loss of their clearance depending on the results of the investigation.
Being a clearance holder with security violations is limiting....they do not get removed from your record.


>>>>>>>
General Prohibition:
The U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) generally prohibits the use of unmanaged messaging apps, including Signal, for transmitting non-public DoD information.
Exceptions Require Approval:
If an unmanaged messaging app like Signal is deemed critical for mission operations, an "Exception to Policy (E2P)" request must be submitted and approved.
DoD Regulations:
DoD Instruction 8170.01 states that service members are not permitted to use non-DoD-controlled electronic messaging services to process nonpublic DoD information

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Edited: 03/24/2025 at 12:18 PM by Bamboo
 03/24/2025 12:23 PM
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3rdworldlover

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Doubtful this was accidental
This is a reality show circus and there's no federal law enforcement, just a hit squad for silencing dissent
 03/24/2025 12:31 PM
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Bamboo

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The really fked up part is that nobody except for the Atlantic reporter realized this was a horrible security violation....and he isn't even a clearance holder.

What a bunch of wankers.

And what other conversations have there been on unsecured channels that aren't being classified and retained properly?

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 03/24/2025 01:24 PM
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dingpatch

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"W T F O": What The Fuck, Over.

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 03/24/2025 01:53 PM
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Maybe Hegseth is drinking again.

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 03/24/2025 01:56 PM
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3rdworldlover

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Notice the Atlantic didn't disclose sensitive information even though they have it.
Cane we say that about Trump?
 03/24/2025 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Bamboo
The really fked up part is that nobody except for the Atlantic reporter realized this was a horrible security violation....and he isn't even a clearance holder.


Or if others (there were 18 people on the chat?) and nobody spoke up, even more shame on all of them.


Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Maybe Hegseth is drinking again.


You beat me to the post, but that was my first thought.
 03/24/2025 03:00 PM
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HAHAHA

OMG WHAT IDIOTS.


"The Best of the Best" alright hahaha

where's Tclown to start coming up with excuses and apologies?




Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhh



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 03/24/2025 03:48 PM
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Bamboo

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Trump says he doesn't know anything about it when asked hours after the news broke.
Either he is lying to avoid being blamed, or his own staff intentionally keeps him in the dark.
Neither option is good.

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Does he ever act like a man and accept responsibilty for his admin?

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 03/24/2025 05:17 PM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: fishkller

Does he ever act like a man and accept responsibilty for his admin?


But her emails!

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 03/24/2025 06:14 PM
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Politico

Waltz's future in doubt following accidental war plan leak

Dasha Burns, Rachael Bade and Eli Stokols
Mon, March 24, 2025 at 7:25 PM EDT5 min read

The stunning revelation that top administration officials accidentally included a reporter in a group chat discussing war plans triggered furious discussion inside the White House that national security adviser Mike Waltz may need to be forced out.

Nothing is decided yet, and White House officials cautioned that President Donald Trump would ultimately make the decision over the next day or two as he watches coverage of the embarrassing episode.

A senior administration official told POLITICO on Monday afternoon that they are involved in multiple text threads with other administration staffers on what to do with Waltz, following the bombshell report that the top aide inadvertently included Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg in a private chat discussing a military strike on Houthis.

"Half of them saying he's never going to survive or shouldn't survive," said the official, who like others was granted anonymity to discuss internal deliberation. And two high-level White House aides have floated the idea that Waltz should resign in order to prevent the president from being put in a "bad position."

"It was reckless not to check who was on the thread. It was reckless to be having that conversation on Signal. You can't have recklessness as the national security adviser," the official said.

A person close to the White House was even more blunt: "Everyone in the White House can agree on one thing: Mike Waltz is a fucking idiot."

Goldberg got a request to join Signal, an encrypted messaging app, from a "Mike Waltz" on March 11, according to the publication. He was then included in a group chat dubbed "Houthi PC small group" with what appeared to be other top administration officials including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Vice President JD Vance, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and others.

A third person familiar with the fallout said Trump has spoken with Waltz about the matter - and the White House is, for now, standing by him.

"As President Trump said, the attacks on the Houthis have been highly successful and effective. President Trump continues to have the utmost confidence in his national security team, including national security adviser Mike Waltz," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a Monday statement. The press office declined to comment further.

A fourth White House official said they were aware of internal pressure for Waltz to own his mistake - which could mean a possible resignation. But that official said what happens to Waltz largely depends on how Trump personally feels about the matter, and noted the involvement of other administration officials in the Signal chat as well.

Two of the officials said that while Trump may lay blame at the feet of Waltz for potentially compromising U.S. national security, he could just as easily be frustrated with Vance for stepping out of line from the administration's foreign policy in the chat, or target Hegseth as the one who allegedly shared sensitive details with the group.

"I am not sure the president is aware how inconsistent this is with his message on Europe right now. There's a further risk that we see a moderate to severe spike in oil prices. I am willing to support the consensus of the team and keep these concerns to myself," Vance said, according to the Atlantic's report. "But there is a strong argument for delaying this a month, doing the messaging work on why this matters, seeing where the economy is, etc."

It has also created an opening for longtime Waltz detractors suspicious of his neoconservative ties to push for his removal. Waltz once advised former Vice President Dick Cheney on counterterrorism but, like Secretary of State Marco Rubio, has in recent years shifted his foreign policy views to embrace a more "America First" approach.

Those concerns were amplified on social media Monday by a contingent of isolationist conservatives who questioned why Waltz had the Atlantic editor-in-chief's cell phone number in the first place - suggesting it was evidence of Waltz's continued neocon sympathies.

And while Congress has been reluctant to cross Trump in his first two months in office, some members on Monday voiced concerns about the incident. Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), who serves on the House Armed Services Committee, said sending sensitive information over an unsecure network was "unconscionable," while Sen. Roger Wicker (R-Miss.), chair of the Armed Services Committee, told the New York Times that it was a "concern" and that his committee would "definitely be looking into it."

Defense hawks' criticism of the incident is particularly noteworthy given their perception that Waltz is their guy in the administration, a sympathetic ear in a White House dominated by "America First" isolationists.

Still, the person close to the White House who dubbed Waltz a "fucking idiot," didn't expect any widespread repercussions from the incident.

"I don't think there are any longterm political consequences for Trump or the Administration, outside of this potentially costing Waltz his job," the person said.

But many Republicans on the Hill are hoping Waltz survives. Indeed, while GOP lawmakers privately said they believed some White House official would have to take the blame, House Republicans in particular have defended their former colleague Waltz.

Speaker Mike Johnson told POLITICO that Waltz should "absolutely not" resign.

"He's exceptionally qualified for the job. He is trusted - trustworthy," Johnson said. "He was made for that job, and I have full confidence in him."

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 03/24/2025 06:41 PM
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fishkller

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BUTTER EMAILS!

Hegseth's clusterfuck, no paywall


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 03/24/2025 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by: fishkller





BUTTER EMAILS!



Hegseth's clusterfuck, no paywall


I guess we shouldn't be surprised with unqualified DEI hires like Hegseth.

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 03/24/2025 08:06 PM
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Bamboo

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Sounds like they are trying to make Mike Waltz the scapegoat for this...for inviting the reporter.
Not for using unapproved devices and apps for sensitive/classified communications.

It seems like using Signal is the norm for theses folks as it didn't raise any questions among any of them.
They probably don't even know the right protocols for such discussions.

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 03/24/2025 08:17 PM
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Hegseth rolled out all the hits that he was instructed to use when confronted by reporters on the tarmac:

He's a "so-called" journalist! Score: FAIL

It's the same old Russia! Russia! Russia! Score: FAIL (and what's this got to do with Russia, other than they were probably intercepting the Signal chain?)

I did NOT text out War Plans! Score: FAIL (oh yessss you did.. screenshotz to prove it!)


Whooo boy, Petey's gonna need a DRINK after this one!


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 03/24/2025 09:21 PM
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Hey vlladd ol' buddy.....shouldn't have messed with our guys in syria bud
not me...but, some people say we should do something about it. On an airfield this Tuesday.....they'd be very disappointed if there was nothing there...

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 03/25/2025 04:34 AM
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Bamboo

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Pete Buttigieg, an ex-Navy intelligence officer, sums up the seriousness of this well in this YouTube short.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VGp1ZsuCtS8

The elf on the shelf, Mike Johnson, is basically saying it is no big deal.
He is wrong.
As more info comes out this is not looking any better.
If it was anybody else except for Trump's "best ever" cabinet and staff there is a good chance they would not only lose their clearance, but probably their job.


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Edited: 03/25/2025 at 10:33 AM by Bamboo
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