Well isn't this an interesting coincidence of events....

Nancy Pelosi and United Health: Suspicious Insider Trading

On February 21, 2024, UnitedHealth Group faced a significant cybersecurity breach that compromised the personal and healthcare data of approximately 100 million individuals. This incident, attributed to the notorious BlackCat ransomware gang.

On the same day as the breach announcement, former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi purchased $4 million worth of call options in Palo Alto Networks, a leading cybersecurity firm, which resulted in her making a staggering $11.9 million in profits before tax.

What are the odds that Pelosi invested in Palo Alto Networks on the same day United Healthcare experienced a cybersecurity breach? Later, she profits significantly when that company is tasked with investigating the incident.

Today, the individual who could potentially expose her alleged misconduct is killed outside his hotel. Quite a coincidence, especially just before the Trump DOJ might have had an opportunity to investigate the situation.



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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

This.

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Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it.

I saw someone posting on Twitter:
All jokes aside it's really fucked up to see so many people on here celebrating murder. No one here is the judge of who deserves to live or die. That's the job of the Al algorithm the insurance company designed to maximise profits on your health.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

KUDOS+++++



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So... America's Great Now?

The Daily Beast

Moderators Delete Reddit Thread as Doctors Torch Dead UnitedHealthcare CEO

Sean Craig
Thu, December 5, 2024 at 10:58 AM EST·4 min read
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Doctors in one of the Internet's top medical communities have turned on the murdered UnitedHealthcare (UHC) CEO Brian Thompson in such brutal fashion that Reddit moderators deleted a thread on the killing.

The moderators of r/medicine closed the thread, posted Wednesday after news broke that Thompson was shot dead outside the New York Hilton hotel in Midtown Manhattan, after it racked up over 500 replies.

The commenters overwhelmingly criticized - and satirized - the insurer's alleged denial of coverage to sick and dying Americans in order to juice profits.

The top comment, which received hundreds of supporting upvotes from other users, mocked UHC's notorious track record for refusing to pay out insurance claims and is written as a lengthy, spoof rejection letter from the company.

Addressed to an unnamed applicant - following "a careful review of the claim submitted for emergency services on December 4, 2024? - it informs them they are being rejected for coverage because "you failed to obtain prior authorization before seeking care for the gunshot wound to your chest."

"If you would like to appeal the fatal gunshot, please call 1-800-555-1234 with case # 123456789P to initiate a peer to peer within 48 hours of the fatal gun shot," wrote one user.

Another paraphrased the early 20th Century trade union lawyer Clarence Darrow: ?I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure."

Dozens and dozens more expressed similar sentiment.

That original thread may have been deleted but criticism of Thompson on Reddit has not died down. Roughly 16 hours after the deleted post was made in r/medicine, another user made a separate post soliciting thoughts on the murder. It has remained up.

As with the previous thread, some comments contain humor or outrage expressed at UHC.

But others - including from doctors and medical professionals - offer incisive and unsparing critiques of Thompson's business practices.

One medical doctor, whose identity the Daily Beast confirmed, commented with sympathy for Thompson's family and said the killer should be charged with murder, but then wondered about the damage the CEO had done.

"I cannot even guess how many person-years UHC has taken from patients and their families through denials," they wrote. "It has to be on the order of millions. His death won't make that better, but it's hard for me to sympathize when so many people have suffered because of his company."

"What has bothered me the most is people that put «fiduciary responsibility» (eg profits) above human lives, none more so than this company as run by him," wrote another medical doctor, who also spoke to the Daily Beast to confirm their identity. "When other's human lives are deemed worthless, it is not surprising to have others view your life of no value as well."

The moderators of the subreddit told the Daily Beast, in a message, that they removed the original post "because it was unproductive, a time suck for the mods, without a good source, being brigaded, arguably against Reddit's [terms of service] and [featured] too many inappropriate comments."

The site's communities are moderated by teams of volunteers.

"It wasn't because of criticism of business practices," the statement added. "We criticize insurance business practices frequently here."

Under Thompson's leadership, UHC faced intense criticism for being one of America's most ruthlessly profit-minded moneymaking healthcare firms.

According to research by ValuePenguin citing in-network claim data, it "is the worst insurance company for paying claims with about one-third of claims denied."

In September, a Senate report excoriated UHC and two other large insurers, Humana and CVS, for allegedly denying patients access to post-acute care in order to increase profits.

UHC is a subsidiary of UnitedHealth Group, the country's largest healthcare conglomerate, which made $371 billion in revenue last year, when Thompson's compensation was $10 million.

Police have yet to attribute a motive to the masked killer who shot Thompson outside an investor meeting in what NYPD commissioner Jessica Tisch said was likely a "premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack."

Law enforcement officials found the words "deny," "defend" and "depose" on shell casings recovered from the crime scene and are reportedly examining whether they can be connected to a motive involving insurance companies.

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Dora Hates You

All of this is going to be really fascinating if it turns out his wife had him killed and used the bullet casings as a great distraction.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Yeah I hear you- I've been thinking about this one.. it seems to me more likely that multiple people were involved, with perhaps someone on the "inside"

He was on the phone with someone just prior to the shooting, and then wow- just happened to be right where the guy came out walking alone down the street- what incredible luck!

Smells fishy.

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So... America's Great Now?

Edited: 12/05/2024 at 09:17 PM by fishkller

It is interesting how nobody seems to know the CEO's name, he is usually referred to as healthcare giant CEO, United Health CEO, etc.

From what they have released to the public so far I don't think there is anything that is actually solid besides the material things they have recovered and the actual video of the shooting.

One of the retired police chief talking heads last night pointed out that the hostel and biking vids may not be him, but they need to follow up as they are the best leads they have.



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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV


Edited: 12/06/2024 at 05:38 AM by Bamboo

Well, who says a little murder cannot inspire change?

>> One of the country's largest health insurers has reversed its decision to no longer pay for anesthesia care in certain states if the surgery or procedure goes beyond a particular time limit. The original move by Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, which would have started next year, alarmed doctors and policymakers.

"There has been significant widespread misinformation about an update to our anesthesia policy. As a result, we have decided to not proceed with this policy change," the company said in a statement to NPR on Thursday afternoon.

"To be clear, it never was and never will be the policy of Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield to not pay for medically necessary anesthesia services," the company added. "The proposed update to the policy was only designed to clarify the appropriateness of anesthesia consistent with well-established clinical guidelines."<<

Blue cross blue shield's anthem seems to be paying attention.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

"Propaganda of the deed"

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Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it.

To be clear, it never was and never will be the policy of Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield to not pay for medically necessary anesthesia services

Then why did they drop the change? Fucking liars.

This just might be a Guy Fawkes moment.

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I was right.

This thing has very long legs. This has created a long overdue dialogue on the shady practices of Insurance Companies everywhere and people are definitely angry. THere is barely a hint of sympathy anywhere for a man murdered in the street. This is a moment people will look back to as a historical point where Insurance companies realized that there suggestion boxes were coffins.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

No. The big corporations are just going to get shittier as all legal consumer protections are eliminated. They'll continue to consolidate power through mergers and acquisitions. They'll wall up behind some modern day iteration of the Baldwin Felts Detective agency with full support of whatever government law enforcement remains.

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Insurance companies add no value whatsoever to our healthcare system, and represent a massive parasitic draw of resources away from actual healthcare and massively enriches private capital.

March them all to the guillotine.



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Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it.

Oh please. Never seen such hysteria from a group.

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I :heart; Q

Aren't you one of the many that criticized me for not supporting the ACA? Like, didn't you support a law that forced everyone to HAVE to carry insurance and be subjected to this shit?



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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Everyone should just sign up for Medicare.



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Nothing screams cuck like flying a flag with another man's name on it.

We are all surfers here and many have been to other countries to surf.

Was in Costa Rica, and one in our group had to get stitches.
Total cost for the e-room visit, meds, bandages, etc. was about $100.
The help and care was as very good, and the small hospital was super clean.
Can't even walk into an emergency room here without a $1k+ bill.

Europe?
Yeah, they will treat you and tell you to leave and not worry about the bill because dealing with our insurance crap is waaaaay too much of a hassle and not worth their time.

Comprehensive Immigration Reform and Healthcare Reform should be in our top 5 priorities as a nation...but they aren't because the money is too good for our politicians and the big biz that benefits.

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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

The insurance lobby is the epitome of a special interest group. Look at those profit margins from just United Healthcare. Going against that kind of money and influence in the courts or the court of public opinion is a lost cause. Maybe this is just a sign of the times now. From Politico: For example, a national poll a year ago found that almost 1 in 4 Americans agreed with the statement that "true American patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save our country." Combine the erosion of respect for our institutions with easy and legal access to firearms of every caliber and style along with the age of internet influencing and we have what could be a new trend.

With that being said, the man that shot this guy fled. He left his message in shell casings. I believe that if this murder was in fact a statement in retaliation for the callous disregard of human life that is now the modus operandi of an increasingly AI industry, the shooter would have stayed and been the martyr for the cause.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Strange I thought Trump/Ryan/McConnell fixed health care when they had a super majority in 2017?

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