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 05/31/2023 08:04 AM
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Pagerow

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Trump says he can end birthright citizenship, something he didn't do as president

He plans to make an executive order to end birthright citizenship.

"I will sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that under the correct interpretation of the law, going forward, the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic U.S. citizenship," Trump said in a newly released video.

However, The 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution - ratified in 1868, three years after the end of the Civil War - grants citizenship to "persons born or naturalized in the United States."


Hmmm. The Presidential Oath of Office states: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

In other words, Drumpf plans to usurp the US Constitution on his first day in office (if elected) via an executive order.

He wants power for himself and no one else.

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 05/31/2023 08:28 AM
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the future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic U.S. citizenship
Forgot a few words there. "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...." Are children of citizens of another country subject to our jurisdiction? Legal scholars differ on that question. Some say no.

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 05/31/2023 09:00 AM
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The Case at the Heart of the Birthright Citizenship Battle
With a renewed conversation challenging birthright citizenship, a look back at the 1898 case that first established the legal precedent in the U.S.


Aug. 21, 2015, 10:57 AM EDT / Updated Aug. 21, 2015, 2:32 PM EDT
By Emil Guillermo
Donald Trump's immigration plan, entitled "Defend the Laws and Constitution of the United States," calls for an end to "birthright citizenship."

But legal and historical scholars say the GOP front-runner's challenge attempts to trump the Constitution itself, as well as an important chapter in Asian American history.

Birthright citizenship has been considered "settled law" since March 28, 1898, said John Trasvina, the Dean of the University of San Francisco Law School in an interview with NBC News.

And it was all due to Wong Kim Ark, a Chinese American born in San Francisco in 1873.

In August of 1895, Wong was 22 and returning home to San Francisco after a visit to China, according to court records. But it was also an era when anti-Chinese sentiment was high, with the passage of the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1886, and its renewal in 1892.

When Wong was refused re-entry to America, it set up his legal battle that went all the way to the Supreme Court. In 1898, the High Court affirmed Wong's right that has continued to define citizenship birthright for 117 years.

"The U.S. Supreme Court noted that the nation's founders adopted Anglo American law which itself dated back to 1608 to interpret the meaning of the 14th Amendment -- if you are born here, you are a United States citizen," said Trasvina.

He notes that the legal avenue to challenging and amending the Constitution would be "lengthy, divisive, and not likely to be successful."



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 05/31/2023 09:15 AM
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Fix my roof, pick my tomatoes, but take that baby back with you where you come from when you're used up from manual labor...



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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Fix my roof, pick my tomatoes, but take that baby back with you where you come from when you're used up from manual labor...
Or, they can stay in their own country if they don't like the deal here. No one is forcing them to come here.

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Neocolonial economics forces them to come here. Plus if they didn't you'd be paying $5 for a tomato.

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 05/31/2023 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck Neocolonial economics forces them to come here. Plus if they didn't you'd be paying $5 for a tomato.
Most are fleeing from socialist/communist governments. I would not be paying $5 for a tomato. I detest tomatoes. I have never bought one in my life and don't plan to. For all I care, they can go for $1,000 apiece.

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No they're not, they're coming from Honduras and El Salvador where the United Fruit Company and CIA made sure American business always got what it wanted while the death squads raped and killed nuns.

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 05/31/2023 01:56 PM
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So much for the oath to support the constitution from threats within and out.

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 05/31/2023 02:04 PM
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fishkller

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Sounds like Steaksy sales pitch to me.

You'd think the magagagga suckers would be on to these vaporware promises by now..

but a sucka's gotta sucka..

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 05/31/2023 02:47 PM
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Is Mexico going to pay for it? Again?

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 05/31/2023 03:51 PM
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Hahaha yeah no kidding

AND THE DREAMERS ARE GONNA PAY FOR IT TOO!!

just sign here for your lifetime supply by mail..

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 06/01/2023 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Is Mexico going to pay for it? Again?


Maybe he'll use "Trump Bucks" ?

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 06/01/2023 10:41 AM
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Did anyone else see that Better Call Saul episode where the crazy right winger asks to hire him and how does a million dollars sound? Fair! Says Saul. He opens the briefcase with a million dollars with the crazy guy's face on every bill.

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