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Topic Title: MSNBC Throws the Goalposts Into the Ocean to Defend Biden on the Debt Ceiling Deal
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Fish Killer

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MSNBC Throws the Goalposts Into the Ocean to Defend Biden on the Debt Ceiling Deal
By Bonchie | 11:00 AM on May 28, 2023

On Saturday night, news broke that after much posturing, a deal was reached to raise the debt ceiling and avoid financial calamity. That happened despite the fact that Joe Biden himself was apparently still out of town on another vacation, which shows just how involved he is in his administration.

Not long after the deal was announced, the spin began, and no one did it more shamelessly than MSNBC. On a panel that already included Rick Wilson of The Lincoln Project and noted leftist Molly Jong-Fast, Kurt Bardella decided to one-up everyone by claiming that Biden actually won on the debt ceiling compromise.


"The win Biden just delivered," Burdell proclaims as if the internet simply doesn't exist and we can't all go to Google right now and look up what was being said prior to this. As RedState has chronicled, the president spent months vowing to not negotiate at all on the debt ceiling. As recently as May 12th, just a little over two weeks before the writing of this article, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre reasserted that there would be no negotiations over the debt limit. None. Zilich. Nada.


It seems rather improbable to me that someone could be called the winner of a compromise they said would never happen in the first place. The number of times that the White House said it wasn't going to negotiate are too numerous to mention in this piece. Biden and his handlers said it over and over again in an attempt to push a public narrative that ultimately failed after Republicans unified and passed a debt ceiling bill.

And while I understand the left-wing media have to try to smooth things over with their Democrat viewers, the truth of the matter is simple: Biden caved. There's no other way to describe what happened. Republicans did not get everything they wanted, but when one group continually says they won't compromise and the other group demands one, the latter group wins the argument if things end up at a compromise. And they did end up at a compromise.

Now, with that said, do I personally see the deal as a win for Republicans and the nation? Not really. I'm a conservative and anything short of real, substantive spending reform isn't going to make me happy. Unfortunately, at this point, I'm basically resigned to the fact that we are going over the cliff and it's just a matter of what speed we do it at. But as an argument over political narrative, Biden did not win because he ended up contradicting his pledge to not negotiate and met many of the GOP demands.

MSNBC is gaslighting and moving the goalposts. No one should be confused by what they are trying to do. It's a "heads I win, tails you lose" game, and while the nation continues to lose because no real spending cuts were ever on the table, Republicans did win the messaging battle. What that's actually worth to any individual person will obviously vary.

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MSNBC is gaslighting and moving the goalposts. No one should be confused by what they are trying to do. It's a "heads I win, tails you lose" game, and while the nation continues to lose because no real spending cuts were ever on the table, Republicans did win the messaging battle. What that's actually worth to any individual person will obviously vary.

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There weren't any goalposts thrown in the ocean. Therefore you Lie

America will not default. Thank you President Biden.

desancto will never be President.

Lying Liars Lie!

Entertaining...
 05/28/2023 01:12 PM
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...i can see that metaphors and you don't get along.

Idiot.


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again, you missed the point. you are clueless. I know what a metaphor is. I simply used your logic from a previous post.

lol
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I didn't miss any point....fool!

Your 'logic' about my logic is ridiculous.

LMAO!

Idiot!

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Originally posted by: sandi

again, you missed the point. you are clueless. I know what a metaphor is. I simply used your logic from a previous post.


you can't see what is right in front of you.

you are blinded by not getting any.

sad really.


lol


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^repeating yourself.....loser.



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 05/29/2023 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by: sandi

Originally posted by: sandi



again, you missed the point. you are clueless. I know what a metaphor is. I simply used your logic from a previous post.





you can't see what is right in front of you.



you are blinded by not getting any.



sad really.





lol


loser^
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I did not know that over 50% of children are trans !!

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 05/29/2023 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by: sandi
Originally posted by: sandi
Originally posted by: sandi
again, you missed the point. you are clueless. I know what a metaphor is. I simply used your logic from a previous post.
you can't see what is right in front of you.

you are blinded by not getting any.
sad really
lol


loser^


Yes...why yes you are.

I agree.

(Better re-read your post as it really shows your extreme ignorance. Js.)

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 05/29/2023 at 03:32 PM by Fish Killer
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this thread sucks 0/5 & take a lap
 05/29/2023 03:55 PM
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You suck 0/5 & take a lap

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 05/29/2023 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: sandi

Originally posted by: sandi

Originally posted by: sandi

again, you missed the point. you are clueless. I know what a metaphor is. I simply used your logic from a previous post.

you can't see what is right in front of you.



you are blinded by not getting any.

sad really

lol




loser^




Yes...why yes you are.



I agree.



(Better re-read your post as it really shows your extreme ignorance. Js.)



Liar. You've never seen my IQ Scores.

Have you seen the unibombers IQ scores? Quite an intersting Story.

Very High IQ, extremely mentally ill. He was terrified of Mental Health Exams...
Sound familiar?

Like a good lil' magascum, you make things up.

Why do you Lie?

desancto will never be Prez...
 05/29/2023 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by: StirfryMcflurry

this thread sucks 0/5 & take a lap


it does...
 05/29/2023 06:35 PM
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This post completly speaks for itself.
Tell us all pussi.....from the post whom did YOU call a loser?


Originally posted by: sandi
Originally posted by: sandi
Originally posted by: sandi
again, you missed the point. you are clueless. I know what a metaphor is. I simply used your logic from a previous post.
you can't see what is right in front of you.
you are blinded by not getting any.
sad really.
lol


loser^


The facts expose themselves as YOU are the only one quoted in YOUR post.

The only possible recipient of YOUR comment would be YOURSELF.

IDIOT!

(In conclusion...you have a seriously low IQ...no matter what you claim. You make bumbles and errors constantly...just like the one above. I expose them and you just move on...thinking they just mysteriously disappear.

They don't.

Your latest Biblical mistake was huge...really it was as you involved God with your sexual desires.

Your mental screw-ups are permanent...forever. They are on the internet.

Just like the the huge screw-ups of your pals Coleslaw and FAKEfishkller.

They have epic screw-ups as well.

I have posted most of them and NOPE...they can't remove their screw-ups either.

That's why they have me on ignore....they continue to screw up again and again and again.

They don't like having their massive ineptitude and incompetence exposed daily.

They sure don't like having their constant lies exposed as well.

They just can't stop lying.

It's hilarious!

Oh...and I will let you in on a secret...my name really and genuinely isn't Gary.

Those two idiots finally figured that out also.

How embarrassing for them...after all these years.

LMAO!


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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 05/29/2023 at 07:13 PM by Fish Killer
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