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Topic Title: What was herr orange makeup face planning to DO with those documents, anyway?
Topic Summary: clue: what has he done his entire life?
Created On: 08/13/2022 10:50 PM
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nukeh2o

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done foiled his plans.....

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 08/14/2022 04:55 AM
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johnnyboy

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Some think kompromat in Macron, possibly even for Putin.

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 08/14/2022 06:02 AM
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Bamboo

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"....I speculate that the real reason is far more sinister than simply hiding evidence.

When things start getting dicey, Trump will board a helicopter to a Russian or Saudi yacht sitting offshore outside US territorial waters. From there, he will self-exile to Moscow or Riyadh. Putin or MBS will gladly help take care of Trump's basic needs.

To regain some minimal wealth, Trump will sell U.S. secrets
to the highest bidder, which most likely would be Putin, MBS, or Xi.
That's why he needed such a large cache of U.S. secret documents.

We need to get the Air National Guard patrolling the East Coast ASAP,
from NYC to Palm Beach, so they're ready to intercept Trump's helicopter,
and keep him from reaching a Russian or Saudi yacht
to self-exile to Moscow or Riyadh."

LOL, yeah at this point anything could be possible. There is no reason for him to have had SAP/SCI/RD/FRD type documents at his home...none, and he doesn't have the ability to declassify those docs on his own without a trail. So, the question is why did he have them...and i am sure he knew he had them but will claim that the maid put them there and he had no idea.


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 08/14/2022 06:13 AM
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According to National Security Secrecy experts, these top secret documents were so secret that they couldn't be taken out of a secure area or even be looked at by staff. They are worth BILLIONS. So trying to figure the motive for trumps taking this is pure speculation at this point but he does seem to have a pattern of shortsighted greed that defines his entire career.

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 08/14/2022 06:48 AM
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Bamboo

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If they are indeed ongoing classified SAP or SCI programs there is a good chance that those programs had no idea they were "declassified" by Trump and have been operating as if they still were classifed at those levels...and running a special program is crazy expensive.

Just saying.

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Edited: 08/14/2022 at 07:26 AM by Bamboo
 08/14/2022 07:32 AM
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Sure there is a very specific 'process' that has to be strictly followed for changing the classification for ANY document - 'up', or 'down', and these have to be 'officially registered' somewhere, regardless of how/who 'does' it..

If it's 'declassified' we ALL should be able to see ALL of NOW.

That's the 'acid test' that faux needs to answer..

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 08/15/2022 11:59 AM
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"Roy Cohn introduced Trump to his stable of NYC mob clients, and they helped groom him in the ways and means of organized crime operations. Trump used to hang out with them as well, some frequently some intermittently. Trump has been photographed with Carlo Gambino (Gambino Crime Family), Tony Salerno (Genovese Family ), Carmine Galante (Bonanno Family), and John Gotti (Gambino Family). For years, Cohn and his stable taught Trump how to stay out of jail as a consequence of his illegal activity."
Roy Cohn was a dirty queer lawyuh who was Joseph McCarthy's hit man during his totally made up red menace witch hunt. He died alone, in disgrace....chumpf turned his back on him

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 08/15/2022 12:39 PM
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johnnyboy

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They took Trump's passport. That is hysterical. Good luck catching that Helicopter to freedom.

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 08/15/2022 12:55 PM
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RustyTruck

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Don't ex-presidents get 24/7 secret service? Sort of like house arrest.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

They took Trump's passport. That is hysterical. Good luck catching that Helicopter to freedom.


Are they saying that he's a flight risk???
 08/15/2022 02:30 PM
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nukeh2o

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Well, you can rest assured he won't escape by sea........
they's SHARKS out there!

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 08/15/2022 03:09 PM
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There is also one huge fat lying elephant in the room. Trump wasn't writing a memoir or a biography.
http://www.politico.com/amp/ne...ook-publishers-494559

>>Almost five months after leaving office, major publishing houses still are wary of publishing a book by former President Donald Trump, even though a post-White House memoir would almost assuredly be a best-seller.

Their reluctance is driven by several factors, though the underlying fear is that whatever Trump would write wouldn't be truthful.

"t would be too hard to get a book that was factually accurate, actually," said one major figure in the book publishing industry, explaining their reluctance to publish Trump. "That would be the problem. If he can't even admit that he lost the election, then how do you publish that?"

It's unheard of for a former U.S. president to struggle to score a major book deal after leaving office. And the absence of Trump's own words from the literary world is made even more pronounced by the fact that several of his top aides and former Cabinet officials are writing books of their own. Former Vice President Mike Pence scored a seven-figure deal for two books with Simon & Schuster - a decision that sparked some employees of the company, well-known Simon & Schuster authors, and others to circulate a petition accusing the storied book house of promoting bigotry.<<


Everyone got a book deal but him. He has lied so many times and screwed so many people over, he abandoned any effort. So how is a guy that famously does not read, cannot write a book and there was no offering to ghost write since the author of the art of the deal called him out as an idiot.

So why would Trump need these documents for a book no one was writing about subjects of which he knew nothing? It's pretty clear these documents were not to support his stories about his nuclear energy milestones. Nor were they about his scientific fascination with nuclear power or weapons. Same for the intel on Macron. Why would trump take that or use that for a book he's not writing?

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