You say "further taxation and further spending won't help." but you don't say who gets "further taxed". Do you actually know or are you just regurgitating talking points that you've heard?

I'm not tax or finance major, but, logically, to spend more, you've gotta tax more...

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Page...I answered your question. Now answer mine. Your mental capacity is showing and its getting tiring engaging with you.

I'll add one more question to your list, why don't you do your own research and figure out who is getting taxed (hint, domestic manufacturers) and what the stipulations are to receive the benefits (hint, reduce your carbon emissions or else)

And seriously? "to spend more you gotta tax more" is going to help inflation? I get you're not a finance major....but damn...even a third grader knowsthe fallacy in that logic. Well, maybe not a current 3rd grader thanks to you libtards dumbing down the education system too, but I digress.

Just stick to your emotions. Stick to your hatred to guide your bias....certainly logic isn't your strong point.

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Poor little opie, I've already DONE my research. It just shows that YOU have not. That proves that you are just regurgitating the talking points that you hear without doing any critical thinking yourself... like EVER.

So, don't cheat and use my research as your own...as a third grader would do...

Finance:
- There's a 15% minimum tax on companies that make over a Billion dollars per year. (psst Opie, this is partially how it will be funded)
- Does not raise taxes on any individual that makes less than $400.000/year. (psst Opie, this means no extra taxes for the lay-person)

Health Care:
- Subsidies for people who are paying their own insurance.
- $35 cap on insulin,
- Money for vaccination research
- The ability to negotiate prescription costs for Medicare.

Climate:
$375 Billion broken down for different items.
- investments toward clean energy
- Tax rebates for buying an electric car
- Carbon capture technology
- Fees toward excess methane emissions from oil and gas drilling

Other:
- Oil and gas companies get more access to drill on federal land
(basically put there to get GOP buy-in)



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Edited: 08/08/2022 at 10:39 AM by Pagerow

I think I am noticing a trend here. You seem to trust the government is out for your best interest and not the best interest of their donors. You seem to make your opinions based on "Hope".

I have history and past precedence on my side, guiding my opinions. As well as experience.

Honest question; are you over the age of 25, own your own business, or in the stage o life where you/your wife are trying to grow your wealth to eventually be able to retire?

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Edited: 08/08/2022 at 11:02 AM by OBX

Your continuing trend of misrepresenting any fact that butts against your preconceived ideas, and misconstruing opinions vs fact is ongoing.

Quit using my facts as your own.

Honest Question OB-trans: How far along is your reassignment surgery?

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Yeah man, we're just not on the same page much less the same reality. WHICH FACTS OF YOURS DID I USE AS MY OWN? Seriously, talk about being fucking delusional..

Your last statement is rich too. What is it with the libtarded, who claim "open mindedness and tolerance" yet every nuance of your dialogue rants anger, self loathing, lacking integrity, and/or an inability to admit fault or error? Why is it NONE of you can every answer simple questions with anything of substance pertaining to the question at hand?

I'll debate all day long, but if you can't come to the table with anything of substance other than the aforementioned.....then I'm just going to continue using you as entertainment, like the clowns you are.

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Why is it NONE of you can every answer simple questions with anything of substance pertaining to the question at hand?

We have clearly shown you the intentions behind the bill and the earmarks of said legislation. You have done nothing but babble. We have presented our stance, it's up to you to prove us wrong, and sorry, your opinion that you have lived through it is nothing but bullshit hyperbole.

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I was right.

^Epic Liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

How's your healthcare tubs? You socialist?

Cole."My health insurance is $10,000 a year cheaper than it was under Trump and that will continue for several more years. You voted for Trump and you will vote for him again and he did nothing for healthcare, so your point is?"

Point is, estrogen therapy isn't cheap under any administration.

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hahahahahahahaha

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

Obx, where are you getting or got your 'healthcare' previously?

medicare? your employer? are they part of the mic et al? medicaid? VA?

Obvious that you never have been self employed and had to fend for yourself in the 'hc' market.. or did you go without and rely on the ER?

lunchmeat? snipe? how bout you?

won't even ask the bottom feeder bot since I won't see his response - or care to see it..

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There are NO white people at all in the Bible... take all the time you need with that...
Please stop feeding the trolls - they will go away if you do...

Edited: 08/09/2022 at 01:46 PM by surfsail

Hey, an attempt at humor! You aren't a complete dick after all. And it is somewhat expensive, but not as much as your labia reduction, right lunchmeatless?

You are better than opie, he is too afraid to reply. lol

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Edited: 08/09/2022 at 04:16 PM by Cole

Employer. Why? Is my insurance going to get cheaper? Wouldn't be the first time we were told that, certainly would be the first time it's actually true, though

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"Its easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled" - Mark Twain

If you are on Obamacare, aka the open market, you should be paying substantially less. But you aren't the smartest, so it's not surprising that you don't know where to look to find the information.

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I was right.

^^^LIAR!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Qish gets his healthcare from Moose and Rocco's loan and medical. His cigarettes too