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 09/22/2021 09:20 AM
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OBX

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https://openvaers.com/covid-data/covid-reports?start=24 Yet, none of these get reported. And you all wonder why people don't trust Big Pharma, the Government, the Media, of the vaccine itself.

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 09/22/2021 09:31 AM
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HAPDigital

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LOL almost everyone has an adverse reaction to vaccines, you moron.
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The type of adverse reaction and the rate of those relative to the number of doses is the important metric. Additionally, a hell of a lot of what is reported to VAERS is just whatever happened after vaccine administration and you have to look at the rate of that compared to a control group to determine if the vaccine was a causative agent. People like OBX are the reason that a safe and effective Lymes vaccine was pulled from initial rollout 20 years ago.

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 09/22/2021 09:45 AM
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OBX

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You guys are rich. Any of you actually click on the link and see what the reactions are? Of course not. 701,559 reported reactions with 14,925 resulting in death. YET NONE OF THAT IS REPORTED IN THE MEDIA. Keep your head in the sand, keep demeaning and snarking at the dissent, keep on what with the non-sequitur justifications to protect yourself from seeing the truth. Trust the Media, trust Big Pharma, trust the Government and attack those that don't. Be the useful idiots you're meant to be.

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So secret there's a web link to it and the 100,000 of thousands of medical professionals in the country (save the one or two cranks that OBX follows) are ignoring it and committing genocide by advising their patients to get vaccinated.

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Yup, I did.

"muscle pain; Joint pain; fatigue; fever; Swollen arm; Vaccination site warmth; swollen lymph nodes at my shoulder/neck and armpit; This spontaneous case was reported by a consumer and describes the occurrence of PERIPHERAL SWELLING (Swollen arm), VACCINATION SITE WARMTH (Vaccination site warmth), LYMPHADENOPATHY (swollen lymph nodes at my shoulder/neck and armpit), MYALGIA (muscle pain) and ARTHRALGIA (Joint pain) in a 32-year-old female patient who received mRNA-1273 (Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine) "

That basically happens to everyone LOL. Dude, you are super dumb.
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scombrid

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So what is the rate of serious reactions? (number per dose). What is the rate of death for a demographic in the VAERS system (say vaccinated people 70 and older) compared to a control group?

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Failure to vaccinate? 650,000 dead. Seems like a risk benefit analysis is in order here.

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 09/22/2021 10:00 AM
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More than 386 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 20, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,899 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it's unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.

So most of these deaths are not even to be confirmed it is the vaccine or not. But compare that to the risk of not taking the vaccine, like 3% of around that same number of people that get covid compared to .00020% of mostly unconfirmed associated vaccine deaths.
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I had 102 fever for a day the felt great. Felt so weird to have a fever like that with zero other infections. You go through those VAERS reports and you quickly find that the serious ones are old people that kicked the bucket from something that probably wasn't the vaccine.

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Originally posted by: scombrid So secret there's a web link to it and the 100,000 of thousands of medical professionals in the country (save the one or two cranks that OBX follows) are ignoring it and committing genocide by advising their patients to get vaccinated.
You're really trying to be obtuse, aren't you? Just because its not being reported doesn't mean its secret. Unless you only swallow what's being told. Also, way to generalize the notion of "the vaccine carries with it risks that should be up to the individual" to dr's commiting genocide. WTF, Scom....you're better then that.

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital Yup, I did. "muscle pain; Joint pain; fatigue; fever; Swollen arm; Vaccination site warmth; swollen lymph nodes at my shoulder/neck and armpit; This spontaneous case was reported by a consumer and describes the occurrence of PERIPHERAL SWELLING (Swollen arm), VACCINATION SITE WARMTH (Vaccination site warmth), LYMPHADENOPATHY (swollen lymph nodes at my shoulder/neck and armpit), MYALGIA (muscle pain) and ARTHRALGIA (Joint pain) in a 32-year-old female patient who received mRNA-1273 (Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine) " That basically happens to everyone LOL. Dude, you are super dumb.
HAHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah, go ahead and cherry pick the one instance that fits your bias, and exclude the over 14k that resulted in death.......and then call me dumb for not doing it. You are a role model for useful idiots....

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital More than 386 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 20, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,899 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it's unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. So most of these deaths are not even to be confirmed it is the vaccine or not. But compare that to the risk of not taking the vaccine, like 3% of around that same number of people that get covid compared to .00020% of mostly unconfirmed associated vaccine deaths.
Good think PABS and OBX aren't actuaries.

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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: scombrid So secret there's a web link to it and the 100,000 of thousands of medical professionals in the country (save the one or two cranks that OBX follows) are ignoring it and committing genocide by advising their patients to get vaccinated.
You're really trying to be obtuse, aren't you? Just because its not being reported doesn't mean its secret. Unless you only swallow what's being told. Also, way to generalize the notion of "the vaccine carries with it risks that should be up to the individual" to dr's commiting genocide. WTF, Scom....you're better then that.
Tell me. If the vaccine is so dangerous. Why aren't medical professionals raising the alarm? They have access to VAERS. That have to report all deaths that occur after vaccination to VAERS. They are conversant with the data.

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Now look at the percentage of people dying from covid without the vaccine: 99% and some change. That means that only .6% of the people dying from covid are vaccinated. Seems like a no brainer to me. Get vaxxed.
 09/22/2021 10:13 AM
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This thread is a perfect example of bias. You all are cherry picking and trying real hard to dance around the FACT the vaccine carries with it risk, and in some instances death. All documented for you to see if you choose to look, but not reported in the media. You play the same card of "how do we know it was really the vaccine" yet snark at the ones who do the same thing with COVID deaths. You then will go on to vaccinate yourselves from something with an greater than 98% chance of survival, and snark at the ones who don't trust the vaccine, that also carries with it a slight chance of death/long term effects (<- which we don't even know yet). Classic libtard hypocrisy at play here...you all are the making of a wet dream for the Oligarchy. Keep on keeping on....

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 09/22/2021 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by: OBX

This thread is a perfect example of bias. You all are cherry picking and trying real hard to dance around the FACT the vaccine carries with it risk, and in some instances death. All documented for you to see if you choose to look, but not reported in the media. You play the same card of "how do we know it was really the vaccine" yet snark at the ones who do the same thing with COVID deaths. You then will go on to vaccinate yourselves from something with an greater than 98% chance of survival, and snark at the ones who don't trust the vaccine, that also carries with it a slight chance of death/long term effects (<- which we don't even know yet). Classic libtard hypocrisy at play here...you all are the making of a wet dream for the Oligarchy. Keep on keeping on....


Meanwhile you will drink alcohol, smoke cigarettes/marijuana, pollute the air, take horse pills, and other treatments that carry they same risk and most cases even more risk.

But we posted real scientific data from validated scientific sources that has relevance, not random links with a sensationalized layout of that small, very small percentage .00020% of unverified deaths associated to the vaccine.

It's not hypocrisy, it's logic. Your views are idiotic and steeped in political emotion, not science and numbers.

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 09/22/2021 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by: scombrid
Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: scombrid So secret there's a web link to it and the 100,000 of thousands of medical professionals in the country (save the one or two cranks that OBX follows) are ignoring it and committing genocide by advising their patients to get vaccinated.
You're really trying to be obtuse, aren't you? Just because its not being reported doesn't mean its secret. Unless you only swallow what's being told. Also, way to generalize the notion of "the vaccine carries with it risks that should be up to the individual" to dr's commiting genocide. WTF, Scom....you're better then that.
Tell me. If the vaccine is so dangerous. Why aren't medical professionals raising the alarm? They have access to VAERS. That have to report all deaths that occur after vaccination to VAERS. They are conversant with the data.
Doctors that sound the alarm are quickly silenced or deemed "quacks" by the media (in which you all end up being the mouth piece for). NOONE FINDS IT SCARY THAT DOCTORS GET CENSURED ON YOUTUBE?. If you don't find that alarming, then you're swimming in the propaganda induced bias that comes with being manipulated. The vaccine carries with it risk, so does COVID. Its up to the individual to decide which risk they take. That is the whole argument being so eloquently danced around by you guys.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy Failure to vaccinate? 650,000 dead. Seems like a risk benefit analysis is in order here.
650,000? Is that accurate? I have seen much to suggest that it is not.
Why aren't medical professionals raising the alarm? They have access to VAERS. That have to report all deaths that occur after vaccination to VAERS.
Some are. Saw a video the other day in which doctors are being told not to report incidents to VAERS.

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Obie, listen man, if you feel confident that you know how to interpret the data from VAERS and that the risk of the vaccine is greater than the benefit, then DON'T GET THE VACCINE.

We all got it and we're fine, but hey, we're probably in better shape than you. No worries. You're the smart guy, take care of yourself.

As for me I'll happily re-up on Moderna as soon as it's available to my cohort.

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