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Topic Title: COVID-19 vaccine boosters unnecessary for most, say FDA advisers reportedly resigning over issue
Topic Summary: DA's Marion Gruber and Phil Krause argued current evidence doesn't indicate a need for booster shots among most American
Created On: 09/13/2021 06:23 PM
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 09/13/2021 06:23 PM
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COVID-19 vaccine boosters unnecessary for most, say FDA advisers reportedly resigning over issue
FDA's Marion Gruber and Phil Krause argued current evidence doesn't indicate a need for booster shots among most Americans
Kayla RivasBy Kayla Rivas | Fox News

Available evidence doesn't yet indicate a need for COVID-19 vaccine booster shots among the general population, an international group of scientists said Monday, including two senior FDA officials reportedly stepping down from their posts over a disagreement with the White House on the administration of booster shots.

Marion Gruber, director of the FDA's Office of Vaccines Research and Review, and her deputy director, Phil Krause, set to leave in October and November, published a viewpoint in The Lancet on Monday along with other experts worldwide, arguing that the COVID-19 vaccines remain effective in preventing severe disease, including against the highly transmissible and dominant delta variant.

SENIOR FDA OFFICIALS TO STEP DOWN OVER DISAGREEMENT WITH WHITE HOUSE ON BOOSTER SHOTS

"Careful and public scrutiny of the evolving data will be needed to assure that decisions about boosting are informed by reliable science more than by politics," authors wrote, adding in part: "Widespread boosting should be undertaken only if there is clear evidence that it is appropriate."

The comments come after Dr. Janet Woodcock, acting commissioner of the FDA, and Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, recently advised the White House that regulators need more time to review necessary data before approving a COVID-19 booster shot plan. The guidance from the FDA and CDC is that both agencies have so far only accumulated enough data to suggest that some individuals who received the Pfizer vaccine should get a booster shot.

FDA RESIGNATIONS OVER WHITE HOUSE BOOSTER SHOT GUIDANCE A 'MESS FOR ADMINISTRATION'

Last month, the nation's top health officials said the U.S. was prepared to begin offering COVID-19 vaccine booster shots to Americans beginning Sept. 20, pending FDA review. That statement, attributed to Walensky, Woodcock, U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy, NIH Director Dr. Francis Collins, President Biden's chief medical advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci and others, had said available data indicated protection begins to wane over time, and "could diminish in the months ahead, especially among those who are higher risk or were vaccinated during the earlier phases of the vaccination rollout."

Gruber, Krause and other authors urged caution over drawing conclusions about vaccine efficacy from preliminary observational studies possibly affected by "confounding and selective reporting" to inform the country's booster shot rollout. Vaccine supply should instead be allocated to unvaccinated populations to best reduce the risk of serious illness and emerging variants, they said.

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 09/13/2021 07:33 PM
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Efficacy over time was found to decline in a large UK study a few months back, but apparently vaccinated people who get covid just get sick and very very unlikely to get critically ill? IMHO we should be sending those boosters to other countries that haven't yet had the opportunity to help even their oldest & most vulnerable... As not only is that the right moral thing to do, but these variants will keep coming if lots of international unvaxed: delta came from India, and now the next one mu is coming from South America..... I think that's the point these Doctors were kinda saying?? https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02261-8

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The guidance from the FDA and CDC is that both agencies have so far only accumulated enough data to suggest that some individuals who received the Pfizer vaccine should get a booster shot.


The White House is right.

Israel has found they both need boosters.

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 09/13/2021 07:46 PM
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FDA advisers reportedly resigning over issue

And no, they aren't.

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 09/13/2021 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole The guidance from the FDA and CDC is that both agencies have so far only accumulated enough data to suggest that some individuals who received the Pfizer vaccine should get a booster shot.
Yes, but emphasis on the word some - e.g. immunocompromised or really elderly - and not younger or even middle aged healthy people. I think the point is we should be moving vaccine production to the rest of the world so we can get some sort of global herd immunity which will stop or at least slow the mutations. Otherwise it's inevitable that the virus will mutate to something that the current vaccine is not all effective on, and then we're all fucked basically back to march 2020. The game now is OK your immunity has weaned a bit and/or the virus has mutated a bit but this vax works boost it up. But if the mutation is so extreme, that boost may not do work but rather would need to reengineer a whole new one which would take time and what do we do in the interim, March 2020 again There is some chatter that this new one from "mu" South America is very close to it, let's hope not!!!

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 09/13/2021 07:55 PM
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But it's a moot point honestly really as we've barley got 50% vaxed, so it's endemic anyways... there was interesting read in south china morning post newspaper today, basically said most countries of SE Asia has said fuck it and started to focus on learning how to live with it.

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Edited: 09/13/2021 at 07:59 PM by surferclimber
 09/13/2021 08:16 PM
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The problem with that is hundreds of thousands won't live with it, they will die. And why live with it when there is a very effective vaccine?

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 09/13/2021 08:30 PM
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Yes it is very sad, especially knowing there is a vaccine in existence just unfortunately not being distributed to many places because of $$$

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 09/13/2021 08:33 PM
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I'm all for giving ours to people who want it.

You can't fix stupid.

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 09/13/2021 09:29 PM
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I'm all for a vaccine deadline.

You can get it by X date, after that, we send it off to some brown people in a poorer country.

As I said last time "Suddenly there's a line of monster trucks at CVS" LOL



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