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 08/03/2021 03:06 PM
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surferclimber

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Originally posted by: Sniper I don't understand why people who have already had Covid are being encouraged to get vaccinated. It sounds like many doctors even think it could be dangerous.
This is something that always made me scratch my head and think WTF? Last time I checked a vaccine is designed to mimic your body's natural response to a virus ( i.e. antibodies or whatever ) so if you already had the virus what added benefit would the vaccine give?
NM, think professor Google answered my question. If you're actually interested here's some research data that addresses the issue. The article is still undergoing peir review process but the numbers are pretty clear https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.01.21258176v2 https://www.medrxiv.org/conten.../2021.06.01.21258176v2

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 08/05/2021 04:33 AM
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The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated. Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study. In a Cox proportional hazards regression model, after adjusting for the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was associated with a significantly lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection among those not previously infected (HR 0.031, 95% CI 0.015 to 0.061) but not among those previously infected (HR 0.313, 95% CI 0 to Infinity).

Conclusions Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

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 08/05/2021 05:19 AM
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conclusion - nobodyelse is nuts and a fabulous card carrying member of the QOP.

Ain't no need to re-prioritize

people aren't getting the vaccine because of misinformation from the QOP and other non-vax lunatics
 08/05/2021 05:58 AM
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wtf

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Originally posted by: surferclimber

Originally posted by: Sniper

I don't understand why people who have already had Covid are being encouraged to get vaccinated. It sounds like many doctors even think it could be dangerous.


This is something that always made me scratch my head and think WTF? Last time I checked a vaccine is designed to mimic your body's natural response to a virus ( i.e. antibodies or whatever ) so if you already had the virus what added benefit would the vaccine give?

Because the antibodies produced from one variant may not be effective against a new variant, which seems to be the case with Delta.

On top of that, long haulers who get the vaccine have reported improvements in their conditions.

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Edited: 08/05/2021 at 05:59 AM by wtf
 08/07/2021 08:32 PM
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surferclimber

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Originally posted by: wtf
Originally posted by: surferclimber
Originally posted by: Sniper I don't understand why people who have already had Covid are being encouraged to get vaccinated. It sounds like many doctors even think it could be dangerous.
This is something that always made me scratch my head and think WTF? Last time I checked a vaccine is designed to mimic your body's natural response to a virus ( i.e. antibodies or whatever ) so if you already had the virus what added benefit would the vaccine give?
Because the antibodies produced from one variant may not be effective against a new variant, which seems to be the case with Delta. .
So similar to the flu shot each year, " new strain of flu." Makes sense. Also seems a lot of these breakthrough cases are from delta, but apparently the take away is while they are getting covid and getting sick, it's probably a million times milder than if unvaccinated. Geuss this crazy virus will keep doing it's mutations or whatnot and we'll probably have to get yearly "covid shot." I think the real truth is a lot still isn't fully known and our knowledge is still evolving, as is with pretty much anything scientific...

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 08/08/2021 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by: surferclimber

Originally posted by: wtf

Originally posted by: surferclimber



Originally posted by: Sniper



I don't understand why people who have already had Covid are being encouraged to get vaccinated. It sounds like many doctors even think it could be dangerous.




This is something that always made me scratch my head and think WTF? Last time I checked a vaccine is designed to mimic your body's natural response to a virus ( i.e. antibodies or whatever ) so if you already had the virus what added benefit would the vaccine give?


Because the antibodies produced from one variant may not be effective against a new variant, which seems to be the case with Delta.



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So similar to the flu shot each year, " new strain of flu." Makes sense. Also seems a lot of these breakthrough cases are from delta, but apparently the take away is while they are getting covid and getting sick, it's probably a million times milder than if unvaccinated. Geuss this crazy virus will keep doing it's mutations or whatnot and we'll probably have to get yearly "covid shot." I think the real truth is a lot still isn't fully known and our knowledge is still evolving, as is with pretty much anything scientific...

Exactly.

This is what people do not get about science - it is searching for the truth always. This was a novel virus, we are studying the hell out of it and learning a gazillion new things every week. Thus of course things like mask reccs are going to change - change is the only constant.

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 08/08/2021 05:03 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/08...clinic-trnd/index.html

This Church got religion about Covid...after losing six in two weeks.
And, of course it is in Flori-duh.


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Edited: 08/08/2021 at 05:04 PM by Bamboo
 08/08/2021 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

Oh, look! Pfizer wants to fight Covid by creating a new protease inhibitor!
Guess what else is a protease inhibitor? Hydroxychloroquine!
Except Pfizer will change a single molecule, market it as something new and charge you or your insurance company $20 per pill instead of the $0.10 per pill it would cost them to use Hydroxychloroquine.

Great job, guys! Way to carry the water for big pharma and help them pump them numbers up!



It's how the pharmaceutical industry works. BIG MONEY. I BOUGHT STOCK. Do the same. MAKE $.
 08/09/2021 05:55 AM
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Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study.

I wonder what their exposure was? If they masked, social distanced and avoided crowded spaces, I wouldn't expect any of them to catch it again. I just listened to an Olympian on the radio who said he caught it twice and the second time really put him down. I'm betting the vaccine would have done him some good, but he thought he didn't need it, so...

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 08/09/2021 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Cole

Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study.



I wonder what their exposure was? If they masked, social distanced and avoided crowded spaces, I wouldn't expect any of them to catch it again. I just listened to an Olympian on the radio who said he caught it twice and the second time really put him down. I'm betting the vaccine would have done him some good, but he thought he didn't need it, so...


How do you know if the first time it was the Flu?

You don't!

So now you are repeating lies.





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 08/09/2021 03:32 PM
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He said it was Covid, why would he lie?

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 08/09/2021 10:21 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

He said it was Covid, why would he lie?


The symptoms are the about the same...

Just because somebody ASSUMES that they have something in NO way means that they actually have it.

Show the proof he had covid or your a liar.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
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Edited: 08/09/2021 at 10:23 PM by Fish Killer
 08/10/2021 05:33 AM
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oh gosh. See above for what yoohoo does to your brain
 08/10/2021 05:36 AM
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Cole

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This British Swimmer Caught Covid Twice. Then He Won Olympic Gold.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/to...-tom-dean-11627360675


Do you ever tire of being wrong...and me being right? lol

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 08/11/2021 05:12 AM
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Fish Killer

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Let's play connect the dots. Florida is the most vaccinated state 50% and covid is running wild. Israel is the most vaccinated country 80% and covid is running wild. The homeless and illegal aliens are not having to go to the hospital or dying. You see, the antibodies God gave us to create vitamin D from the sun and the healthiness of outside air will combat this covid better than any man made vaccine ever will.

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 08/11/2021 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Let's play connect the dots. Florida is the most vaccinated state 50% and covid is running wild. Israel is the most vaccinated country 80% and covid is running wild. The homeless and illegal aliens are not having to go to the hospital or dying. You see, the antibodies God gave us to create vitamin D from the sun and the healthiness of outside air will combat this covid better than any man made vaccine ever will.


What? Covid is hammering the Hispanic community and we live in the Sunshine State. lol

You need help.



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 08/11/2021 06:42 AM
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer
God gave us to create vitamin D from the sun and the healthiness of outside air will combat this covid better than any man made vaccine ever will.


You are hopelessly fucking stupid. There is no God and if there is, she gives exactly zero fucks about anything happening on Earth. Jesus also wasn't divine, nor was he blonde hair, blue eyed. You are ignorant, delusional, irrational, prone to raving, often incapable of writing coherent sentences, and lack even a shred of logical thought.

Congrats FishFucker for being a waste of oxygen.

 08/11/2021 07:13 AM
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Florida is not the most vaccinated state.

 08/11/2021 07:16 AM
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and to think this fat ignoramus will be trying to take up a perfectly good hospital bed & vent in the near future..







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Edited: 08/11/2021 at 07:17 AM by 1974
 08/11/2021 07:36 AM
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The breakthrough rate in Isreal Serious covid much more likely in unvaccinated

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Edited: 08/11/2021 at 07:37 AM by scombrid
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