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Topic Title: Trump vs. Cheney
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Created On: 05/03/2021 11:10 AM
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 05/03/2021 11:10 AM
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jdbman

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Looks like old dead eye's daughter is taking on the Mafia. Who has got the guns? Who has got the numbers?

This is the real battle for the GOP ( gang of pedophiles)

There will be blood.

I'll take Liz in a TKO, 15th round.

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 05/03/2021 11:20 AM
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jdbman

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"The 2020 presidential election was not stolen," Cheney tweeted on Monday. "Anyone who claims it was is spreading THE BIG LIE, turning their back on the rule of law, and poisoning our democratic system."

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 05/03/2021 03:37 PM
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Cole

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Biden is doing well and each day moves the needle a little farther from Trump, so within four years the former president Donnie Do-nothing will be little more than a footnote.

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 05/03/2021 07:24 PM
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johnnyboy

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Cheney. But I like an underdog.

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 05/04/2021 12:29 AM
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Greensleeves

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Liz is smarter by a long shot. Qonald sans Twitter is a lady boy.

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 05/04/2021 05:54 AM
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surfsail

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Def Cheney and Romney are now outliers in their own party.. Lots more silent 'like thinkers' just like them are going to be walking away.. Looks like the party is about to rip apart at the seams - officially.. Start of a third party.. Split the vote.. 2022 starting to look good for the Dems even with the latest census results and increased voter supression laws.. The new qop now permanently and officially officially qrumps to fuck up just like the rest of his businesses.. Will the qop survive as a split party? What's the new party name? Better come up with a better name than "Grand Old Party"... Was always a messed up 'name'.. Looks like Uncle Joes changes are going to be here for a while.. The "Law of Unintended Consequences"... Fitting & just...

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Edited: 05/04/2021 at 06:02 AM by surfsail
 05/04/2021 09:22 AM
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WG

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"If a prerequisite for leading our conference is continuing to lie to our voters, then Liz is not the best fit," he told The Hill. "Liz isn't going to lie to people. Liz is going to say what she believes. She's going to stand on principle. And if that's going to be distracting for folks, she's not the best fit. I wish that weren't the case."

Ohio Republican Rep. Anthony Gonzalez

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 05/04/2021 09:37 AM
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RustyTruck

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Both parties by and large rely on "sheep" who will stick to the party line and vote predictably. The big difference is that Pugs adapt the party to the ignorant base, while the Dem elite set the tone from the top, wrap it in identity politics, and use popular culture to promote it and sanction non-compliance.

Given that the scared white electorate is still under trance of trumpism, I'd say odds are Liz and Romney will not prevail.

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 05/04/2021 09:57 AM
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WG

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yep.
It's not their party anymore.
It belongs to the liars now.

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Edited: 05/04/2021 at 09:58 AM by WG
 05/05/2021 07:32 AM
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johnnyboy

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>>To the frustration of many fellow Republicans, Cheney has continued to clearly state her positions on Donald Trump's baseless claims that the 2020 election was fraudulent and on the Jan. 6 vote to certify Trump's loss. And Cheney has been telling people that if holding onto her leadership role requires having to lie or stay quiet, she doesn't believe that's a price worth paying, according to a source familiar with her thinking.<<

She is going to draw them out and make them commit to removing her for the lies they have pushed. This is a very bad look for the GOP. She's shaming them and they are now locked in the punch.



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 05/05/2021 07:35 AM
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Greensleeves

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russki a sheep in Goodwill clothing

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 05/05/2021 07:45 AM
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RustyTruck

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Black (and red) sheep maybe, but don't hate on thrifting, it's all the rage with the kids.

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 05/05/2021 04:49 PM
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SlimyBritches

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So it's the Devil's Daughter against, the idiot son

 05/06/2021 05:21 AM
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Cole

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The last chance "audit" is falling flat on it's face and then there will be nothing. No proof, no recall, not a damn thing and Biden will still be president. That leaves those committed to the Trump lie in a quandary: stick with the lie or admit they were wrong. Either way there will be repercussions.

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 05/06/2021 05:34 AM
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RustyTruck

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The Pug primary will be a hot ticket event, but by then they will probably have solid control of Congress and Biden will have been hamstrung like they did Obama.



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 05/06/2021 05:46 AM
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johnnyboy

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>> "They're on their knees for Trump and she's standing up for herself," Comstock added. "And that's kind of an embarrassing thing if you're the guy on your knees."<<

Wasn't this the same party that had the courage to vote secretly to keep her 145-61? Yes it was. Secretly house republicans have balls. Publicly, they fellate trump. And the replacement? Not at all constrained by the truth or danger those lies pay in the violence of the insurrection and elsewhere. She got that ambition baby, look in her eyes, this week she ain't in leadership next week the minister of lies. Pelosi world class trolled them with a GOP classified "help wanted, non threatening female." This is all still only the beginning.

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 05/07/2021 10:20 AM
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Central Floridave

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How Trump is hunting down the GOP's leading families
David Siders
Fri, May 7, 2021

In the civil war between Donald Trump and the GOP's waning establishment, no Republican has crossed the former president and come out ahead.

Yet as Rep. Liz Cheney's likely ouster from House leadership lays bare, Trump has reserved a special fury for the scions of the GOP's leading families in his attempt to exercise full dominion over the Republican Party.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-h...leading-040725718.html
 05/07/2021 04:48 PM
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Cole

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As a Liberal, I love the idea of Trump being the one and only Republican.

Those insurrection videos will do wonders come election time. Think Swiftboating x 1,000.

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 05/09/2021 07:53 AM
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theglide

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Somewhere I read an opinion that Little Lizzie is like a canary in the coal mine and

the QOP is nearing mass hysteria like the Salem witch hunt.
 05/09/2021 09:58 AM
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johnnyboy

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But privately they agree with her they just wish she would stop bringing it up. Such a crock. Trump brought it 5 times this week. They are such cowards. I bet they wish they could do another anonymous vote.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

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