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Topic Title: When is the best time to raise taxes?
Topic Summary: When the economy is doing well? or in a nose dive?
Created On: 04/30/2021 10:31 AM
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 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - surfsail - 04/30/2021 10:31 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - tpapablo - 04/30/2021 11:06 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - tpapablo - 04/30/2021 11:10 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - johnnyboy - 04/30/2021 01:33 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - Cole - 04/30/2021 01:53 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - tpapablo - 04/30/2021 02:08 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - tpapablo - 04/30/2021 02:20 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - wtf - 04/30/2021 05:49 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - Cole - 05/01/2021 04:45 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - Cole - 04/30/2021 05:37 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - Greensleeves - 04/30/2021 02:00 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - wtf - 04/30/2021 05:48 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - RustyTruck - 05/01/2021 05:12 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - surfsail - 05/01/2021 01:59 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - crankit - 05/01/2021 02:35 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - theglide - 05/01/2021 03:42 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - tpapablo - 05/05/2021 08:15 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - wtf - 05/05/2021 09:14 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - Cole - 05/06/2021 05:03 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - surfsail - 05/05/2021 07:35 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - tpapablo - 05/05/2021 08:08 AM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - surfsail - 05/05/2021 02:38 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - tpapablo - 05/05/2021 04:48 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - johnnyboy - 05/01/2021 01:24 PM  
 When is the best time to raise taxes?   - theglide - 05/05/2021 07:04 PM  
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RustyTruck

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When the middle class was the strongest it's ever been the top rates were like 80%.




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surfsail

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'Happy Days' time with the Fonz etc - mid 50's the middle class was doing good - so were the unions - an the top rate was like ~95% on top dollar.. Heath care also did not cost anything like it does now.. Bend over Rover - and bring the KY!! Tax man coming for you!!! Open wide!! Say.. "ahhhhhhh"...

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Federal Income Tax Brackets (Tax Year 1955) ARCHIVES
Tax Bracket Tax Rate
$0.00+ 20% $2,000.00+ 22% $4,000.00+ 26% $6,000.00+ 30%

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theglide

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The best time to raise taxes is when tpap gets a raise!

I kid.......

Edited: 05/01/2021 at 03:43 PM by theglide
 05/05/2021 08:15 AM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: theglide The best time to raise taxes is when tpap gets a raise! I kid.......
Not going to happen. As I have said, I am losing money hand over fist. It's just terrible what Biden has done to me. But, at least I don't have to worry about any tax increases and should be getting some money from the gov't. If you can't beat them, join them. Being poor ain't so bad.

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wtf

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: theglide

The best time to raise taxes is when tpap gets a raise!



I kid.......[IMG][/IMG]


Not going to happen. As I have said, I am losing money hand over fist.

Yeah, sure you are...such drama queens you qotards


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Cole

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: theglide

The best time to raise taxes is when tpap gets a raise!



I kid.......[IMG][/IMG]


Not going to happen. As I have said, I am losing money hand over fist. It's just terrible what Biden has done to me. But, at least I don't have to worry about any tax increases and should be getting some money from the gov't. If you can't beat them, join them. Being poor ain't so bad.


Well, that's a lie, you just said Biden was making you more rich the other day and that he is great for the rich people.



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 05/05/2021 07:35 AM
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surfsail

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    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2009/oct/02/michael-moore/michael-moores-film-capitalism-claims-richest-paid/
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    ....."Considering that the top marginal tax rate for the wealthiest Americans today is 35 percent, that figure seems astounding. But it's true that in the 1950s, the top marginal tax rates were over 90 percent......"
    ,,..."So in 1955, for example, when the top marginal tax rate was 91 percent, that was the tax rate owed on a person's income over $300,000. That person would, however, pay 20 percent on the first $2,000 of income; 21 percent on the next $2,000 in income; 24 percent on the next $2,000 and graduated on up to the highest rate. On average, a person making, say, $500,000 would pay substantially less than 90 percent of their income in federal taxes.".....
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    We are not talking 'average' tax rates but 'marginal' ('top dollar') tax rates..
    The threshold back then was about 300$k.. even if you raised this to 10 mil, the 'billionaires' would be effectively paying most of their taxes at the top dollar rates..
    The current level of income disparity did not exist in the 50's.. Not many were in the 300k$ category.. Different nowadays even if you adjust the 300k for inflation..For someone with an income of 100$ mil, their effective/average rate would be getting pretty close to 90%


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Edited: 05/05/2021 at 07:43 AM by surfsail
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: surfsail
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2009/oct/02/michael-moore/michael-moores-film-capitalism-claims-richest-paid/
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    ....."Considering that the top marginal tax rate for the wealthiest Americans today is 35 percent, that figure seems astounding. But it's true that in the 1950s, the top marginal tax rates were over 90 percent......"
    ,,..."So in 1955, for example, when the top marginal tax rate was 91 percent, that was the tax rate owed on a person's income over $300,000. That person would, however, pay 20 percent on the first $2,000 of income; 21 percent on the next $2,000 in income; 24 percent on the next $2,000 and graduated on up to the highest rate. On average, a person making, say, $500,000 would pay substantially less than 90 percent of their income in federal taxes.".....
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    We are not talking 'average' tax rates but 'marginal' ('top dollar') tax rates..
    The threshold back then was about 300$k.. even if you raised this to 10 mil, the 'billionaires' would be effectively paying most of their taxes at the top dollar rates..
    The current level of income disparity did not exist in the 50's.. Not many were in the 300k$ category.. Different nowadays even if you adjust the 300k for inflation..For someone with an income of 100$ mil, their effective/average rate would be getting pretty close to 90%
In the 50's something like 10 people paid the 90% rate. There were a lot more deductions back then. So, the average rate for high earners was about where it is now. No one in their right mind would stand for paying 90%. Ask the Rolling Stones.

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surfsail

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Stones didn't last long in Morrocco if I remember correctly.. A year or 2? Spme heavy parting fer sure! Got your plane ticket to Russia as yet?

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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: surfsail Stones didn't last long in Morrocco if I remember correctly.. A year or 2? Spme heavy parting fer sure! Got your plane ticket to Russia as yet?
93% tax rate. They left for France. No one would pay that rate. Why work for nothing?

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