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Topic Title: Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?
Topic Summary: With many refusing to take the vaccine, will we ever get back to 'life as usual'?
Created On: 04/19/2021 06:25 AM
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 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 04/19/2021 06:25 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - somebodyelse - 04/19/2021 07:34 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 04/19/2021 07:40 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 04/19/2021 08:14 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/19/2021 08:03 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/19/2021 08:28 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 04/19/2021 08:41 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/19/2021 08:42 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/19/2021 10:14 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - johnnyboy - 04/19/2021 08:41 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RustyTruck - 04/19/2021 08:46 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 04/19/2021 10:27 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 04/19/2021 10:44 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 04/19/2021 10:52 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 04/19/2021 11:38 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - 426Blue - 04/19/2021 12:25 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - 426Blue - 04/19/2021 12:25 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 04/19/2021 12:36 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - theglide - 04/19/2021 12:37 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 04/19/2021 12:43 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - theglide - 04/19/2021 12:52 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 04/20/2021 05:33 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 05:58 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:03 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:09 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:12 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 04/20/2021 06:13 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:13 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:18 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:19 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:22 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:24 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:37 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:40 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:43 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:44 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:46 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:48 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 06:51 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:54 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 11:09 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 02:32 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/21/2021 04:44 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/21/2021 06:20 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/22/2021 05:25 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/22/2021 05:26 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - nukeh2o - 04/24/2021 05:29 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/25/2021 07:01 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/25/2021 06:59 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/25/2021 07:06 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/22/2021 06:14 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/22/2021 07:32 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/23/2021 11:45 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/23/2021 01:10 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/23/2021 01:11 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/23/2021 06:55 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/24/2021 07:48 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/24/2021 04:01 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 06:24 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 06:26 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 06:28 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/01/2021 12:21 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/02/2021 08:27 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/02/2021 08:44 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/02/2021 09:04 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - jdbman - 05/03/2021 04:51 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/03/2021 02:05 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/03/2021 03:28 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 04:06 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 04:26 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 04:57 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/04/2021 05:03 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 05:08 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/04/2021 05:10 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 05:20 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 05:21 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 05/04/2021 05:42 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/04/2021 06:14 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/04/2021 07:17 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/04/2021 07:32 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/04/2021 07:39 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/04/2021 07:58 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 08:14 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - ww - 05/04/2021 12:11 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/04/2021 03:11 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/05/2021 09:56 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - CurtisEflush - 05/05/2021 04:51 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/06/2021 07:02 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/06/2021 07:21 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - wtf - 05/06/2021 07:32 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/06/2021 07:46 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 05/06/2021 08:23 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/06/2021 08:35 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/06/2021 08:36 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/06/2021 09:02 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 05/06/2021 10:26 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/06/2021 11:03 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 05/06/2021 08:08 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Pagerow - 05/06/2021 10:05 AM  
 FFYI Measel, Mumps & Rubella affect adults - if you got the vacc as a kid you are OK as an adultWill we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 05/06/2021 12:00 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/20/2021 06:25 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 06:15 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 06:17 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 05/05/2021 07:24 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/27/2021 07:06 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/27/2021 07:43 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 04/27/2021 10:35 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/27/2021 03:30 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/27/2021 03:52 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/27/2021 07:30 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/28/2021 04:28 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/28/2021 04:49 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 04/20/2021 06:25 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 04/19/2021 01:16 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 04/19/2021 01:18 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 04/19/2021 01:33 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/19/2021 01:38 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - waterlizard25 - 04/27/2021 05:35 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - theglide - 04/19/2021 12:40 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RustyTruck - 04/19/2021 02:02 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/19/2021 02:42 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - surfsail - 04/19/2021 05:51 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - 3rdworldlover - 04/19/2021 02:56 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 04/19/2021 05:58 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/20/2021 05:24 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 04/20/2021 06:12 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Greensleeves - 04/25/2021 08:50 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RocketSurf - 04/26/2021 04:34 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 05:26 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 05:35 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 05:41 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 05:46 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 05:51 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 05:55 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 06:03 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 06:07 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 06:11 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 06:04 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 06:10 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RocketSurf - 04/26/2021 05:48 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/26/2021 06:13 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - WG - 04/26/2021 07:46 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/26/2021 04:45 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/27/2021 04:01 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 04/27/2021 05:00 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 04/27/2021 06:50 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - waterlizard25 - 04/27/2021 05:33 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 04/27/2021 07:18 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 05:00 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - wtf - 05/04/2021 08:09 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 04:14 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 04:16 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/04/2021 04:36 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/04/2021 08:42 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/05/2021 07:59 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/05/2021 09:58 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RustyTruck - 05/06/2021 08:01 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 05/06/2021 08:21 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 05/06/2021 08:24 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - tpapablo - 05/06/2021 08:46 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - theglide - 05/06/2021 08:16 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - RiddleMe - 05/06/2021 10:21 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/06/2021 12:17 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Pagerow - 05/06/2021 12:57 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Fish Killer - 05/06/2021 01:48 PM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Cole - 05/07/2021 05:26 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Sniper - 05/07/2021 06:34 AM  
 Will we ever acheive 'herd immunity'? How much longer?   - Greensleeves - 05/07/2021 08:37 AM  
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Originally posted by: CurtisEflush
If a vaccinated person is infected but asymptomatic, he is probably carrying a lower total viral load because his antibodies are knocking down some of the virus' attempts to replicate.


Interesting, but I am not so sure that is valid.

It is generally a person's own immune system that causes severe symptoms because of the cytokine storm a strong immune response generates. So not having immune memory of the virus or similar enough viruses, like from other coronaviruses, combined with an overactive immune system was behind a lot of the severe illness. That's why steroids were given to people with severe illness, to tamp down their immune response.

Given the history of spread with the virus, it would seem that high viral loads in asymptomatic people could be achieved while generating little immune response in immune systems that couldn't recognize the virus? Its not like the virus itself is what killed most people.

Regardless, we will still be learning more about this virus for quite some time.



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