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 08/21/2020 09:12 AM
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Pagerow

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Originally posted by: nukeh2o

Hey Snipe Killer: a little experiment.
I'll kneel on your fat red neck for nine minutes.
If you live you're guilty. If you don't: Orwell....
Stinking treasonous chumpfscum magat swine.


To be fair, he would have to have his hands in cuffs behind him,

and someone else holding his legs.

Any volunteers?

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 08/21/2020 09:29 AM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: Pagerow

Originally posted by: nukeh2o



Hey Snipe Killer: a little experiment.

I'll kneel on your fat red neck for nine minutes.

If you live you're guilty. If you don't: Orwell....

Stinking treasonous chumpfscum magat swine.




To be fair, he would have to have his hands in cuffs behind him,



and someone else holding his legs.



Any volunteers?


LOL I'll videotape the experiment. Make sure you have waivers.
 08/21/2020 10:39 AM
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dingpatch

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Well, quite a few quacks here who are calling for "justice", except it is for what they want justice to be.

The only true, whole, justice will be derived from a Jury Trial. Period. No telling how that all will transpire. Too soon to tell.

The "body cam" footage will be causing a total social media conflagration, , , !!!! The private phone videos will be "interesting" but, the body cam footage is official.

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 08/21/2020 10:49 AM
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Pagerow

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

The "body cam" footage will be causing a total social media conflagration, , , but, the body cam footage is official.


That's why it takes so long for the footage to come out to the public, or through a FOIA request.

Those things are too damning...

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 08/21/2020 10:57 AM
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There are plenty of charges that the prosecution could have brought that would have been no-brainer slam dunks but 2nd-degree murder is probably going to be a real challenge for them to prove. If the cop gets acquitted then it isn't because he wasn't guilty of a crime. It will be because the prosecution tried him for a crime that they couldn't prove.

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 08/21/2020 11:30 AM
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The lawyers can tell us, but I think the jury can consider a lesser charge in these situations.

As far as a jury being the only "true, whole justice" I'd say that doesn't have a very good track record here in the south.

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 08/26/2020 01:18 PM
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Overdose alone, it would seem. All that rioting for nothing. What a shame.

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 08/26/2020 01:28 PM
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dingpatch

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Oh, Darn!!!!!

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 08/26/2020 01:30 PM
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crankit

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So there they were, staring at the just-received and damning toxicology report that blew to smithereens the whole prosecution theory that the police had killed Floyd. To their undoubted dismay, Dr. Baker, the chief medical examiner, had to concede that at 11 ng/mL, Floyd had "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances." He also conceded that the fentanyl overdose "can cause pulmonary edema," a frothy fluid build-up in the lungs that was evidenced by the finding at autopsy that Floyd's lungs weighed two to three times normal weight.
This is consistent with Officer Kueng's observation at the scene that Floyd was foaming at the mouth and, as found at autopsy, that his lungs were "diffusely congested and edematous."
In other words, like a drowned man, Floyd's lungs were filled with fluid. And that was the obvious and inescapable reason why Floyd kept shouting over and over again that he couldn't breathe even when he was upright and mobile.
The memorandum ends with Dr. Baker's devastating conclusion that "if Floyd had been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contributing factors he [Dr. Baker] would conclude that it was an overdose death."
Translation: this toxicology report drives a stake through the heart of our murder case. How do we justify criminally charging these police officers and explain away our colossal screw-up?
It is quite telling that this explosively exculpatory June 1 memorandum was not released by the prosecution until August 25, 2020. All of which prompts these questions:
First, why did the prosecution wait three months to release this memorandum?
Second, if the prosecution had released this information in a timely fashion, would that have helped to quell the anti-police outrage that has fueled the nationwide orgy of rioting and looting?
Third, in light of Floyd's toxicology results and the medical examiner's assessment that Floyd's fentanyl overdose caused him to essentially drown in his own bodily fluid, why haven't the charges against all of the police defendants been dropped?
The handwriting is on the wall. Through all of the rioting, looting, and burning, the prosecution has kept secret its knowledge that George Floyd died as the result of a self-administered overdose of fentanyl. The Chief Medical Examiner of Hennepin County said as much way back on May 31, 2020.

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 08/26/2020 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

We saw what he did. The whole world did.



Of course the cop defense attorney is going to say it wasn't his fault, that's what he's getting paid to do.



People who love the taste of boot polish are going to eat up the defense argument because it aligns with their prejudice.


you hangin with happy digits now ? got that secret tape, you saw what was shown at first then the other video from cops and others showed up you saw what the world saw, delusions of grandeur
 08/26/2020 04:04 PM
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Is cheater volunteering for our experiment?
 08/26/2020 04:30 PM
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fishkller

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo



you hangin with happy digits now ? got that secret tape, you saw what was shown at first then the other video from cops and others showed up you saw what the world saw, delusions of grandeur




What..

In the

Fuuu ..did that mean?

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 08/26/2020 06:15 PM
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Here's an interesting legal analysis of the charges.

http://www.heritage.org/crime-...ge-george-floyds-death

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 08/26/2020 08:15 PM
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With the new revelation that the prosecutor withheld the toxicology....

My bet.....they walk!

ALL of them.

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 08/26/2020 09:39 PM
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HAPDigital

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Just because someone is under the influence doesn't mean they deserve a death penalty. This is the problem. Floyd was not doing anything wrong at all. He did not resist. He allegedly used a counterfeit bill. But no proof is shown that he did. But because, and if, he was on drugs he deserves to die? No.
 08/27/2020 03:07 AM
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It isn't uncommon for someone to fatally OD on fentanyl with a serum level (ng/mL) of 2-4. George Floyd's fentanyl serum level reported in his autopsy report was 11.

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 08/27/2020 04:26 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Just because someone is under the influence


Obviously you are ignorant and can't READ!

The medical examiner CLEARLY stated that if Floyd was found alone with no one around him the death certificate would read DEATH BY OVERDOSE.

He took a FATAL amount of Fentanyl!

FATAL!

Do you understand the term FATAL AMOUNT?!?!

Stupid mofo you are!

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 08/27/2020 11:41 AM
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Don't confuse the little dears with facts!

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 08/27/2020 11:43 AM
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HAPDigital

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Other forensics teams did not agree with that statement, like the US government. He was buying stuff from a store. How fucking gone could he have been? That's bullshit.

"The medical examiner had released a summary report on Monday, which ruled Floyd's manner of death as a homicide. It stated the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

Edited: 08/27/2020 at 11:47 AM by HAPDigital
 08/27/2020 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by: HAPDigital

Other forensics teams did not agree with that statement, like the US government. He was buying stuff from a store. How fucking gone could he have been? That's bullshit.



"The medical examiner had released a summary report on Monday, which ruled Floyd's manner of death as a homicide. It stated the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."


YOU CANT ARGUE WITH THE FUCKING BLOOD TOXICOLOGY...NO MATTER HOW MANY PAID-OFF MEDICAL ASSHOLES YOU CONJURE UP!

FACT!

ASSHOLE!



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Edited: 08/27/2020 at 03:39 PM by Fish Killer
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