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07/15/2020 04:30 AM
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Black Leaders Call on NYPD to Bring Back Anti-Crime Unit as Shootings Spike
Mairead McArdle National ReviewJuly 14, 2020, 11:47 AM Leaders in the black community are calling on the New York Police Department to bring back the plainclothes Anti-Crime Unit that was eliminated last month as shootings and murders spike across the city. About 600 undercover officers from the unit were set to be transferred to other assignments including detective work and policing neighborhoods, NYPD Commissioner Dermot Shea said a month ago. The anti-crime unit, which was responsible for getting guns off the streets, had been criticized as stoking distrust in law enforcement in minority communities. Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, one of the African-American voices calling for action on gun violence, criticized the police force's decision to completely disband the unit. He deplored the recent deadly shooting of a one-year-old, one of the victims of New York City's recent spike in gun violence. "I think that a total elimination is something we need to reevaluate," Adams said, CBS New York reported. "Right now, bad guys are saying if you don't see a blue and white you can do whatever you want." Tony Herbert, an activist in New York's black community, agreed and lamented the rise in violence, criticizing New York officials for their failure to address the situation. "The guns keep going off and now we have a 1-year-old and the blood is on the hands of the mayor and the state Legislature," Herbert said. The decision to disband the anti-crime unit was also panned by Police Benevolent Association President Pat Lynch, who warned that consequences would follow if city leaders refused to deal with increased gun violence. "Anti-Crime's mission was to protect New Yorkers by proactively preventing crime, especially gun violence," Lynch said in a statement. "Shooting and murders are both climbing steadily upward, but our city leaders have decided that proactive policing isn't a priority anymore. They chose this strategy. They will have to reckon with the consequences." The city's murder rate for the month ending June 7 has more than doubled from the same period last year, and shooting victims have increased by 45 percent. Meanwhile, arrests for illegal gun possession have dropped dramatically, with only 29 people arrested during the week that ended July 5, down from 70 during the same week last year, according to NYPD data. In recent weeks, the NYPD has experienced a surge of over 400 percent in retirement applications from officers amid tensions with city officials and after the city's police budget was slashed by $1 billion. https://www.yahoo.com/news/bla...d-bring-154707836.html ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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07/15/2020 04:41 AM
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The city's murder rate for the month ending June 7 has more than doubled from the same period last year, and shooting victims have increased by 45 percent. Meanwhile, arrests for illegal gun possession have dropped dramatically, with only 29 people arrested during the week that ended July 5, down from 70 during the same week last year, according to NYPD data. In recent weeks, the NYPD has experienced a surge of over 400 percent in retirement applications from officers amid tensions with city officials and after the city's police budget was slashed by $1 billion.https://www.yahoo.com/news/bla...d-bring-154707836.html Imagine that - - - - shocking!! ------------------------- Who is Keyser Soze? |
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07/15/2020 04:51 AM
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The police need to be demilitarized. They need to have some of their budgets for tanks, drones and armored personnel vehicles diverted to training for mental health, drug treatment and baker act facilities that can handle the drug addicted and mentally ill instead of jailing them. I don't want to defund the police, I want to overhaul their budgets and force them to spend money on mental health options that don't include jail, probation and time served pleas after they are left to sit for a month. I want the money our sheriff here in palm beach county is lobbying for to enter the next generation of drones, facial recognition software, total and complete surveillance used instead for the drug farm, a year long program that kept drug addicts in treatment for a year instead of prison for many years. Our sheriff killed that program years ago and stated his job was to incarcerate bad guys, not give them therapy. This is a moment of opportunity. These reforms will save lives, money and credibility. It's not a binary choice, the voices from the extreme are not speaking for everyone. The way we police must change now but it could never be eliminated. Anyone who says they would eliminate the police instead of reforming them should be educated otherwise.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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07/15/2020 05:01 AM
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This is a tactic used by cops. If you call for accountability, we'll quit doing our jobs completely.
This sort of thing plays well with a certain demographic. Abolition is a process that involves the ramp up of community services to replace hyper militarized responses to all calls. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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07/15/2020 05:12 AM
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This is a tactic used by cops. If you call for accountability, we'll quit doing our jobs completely. This sort of thing plays well with a certain demographic. Abolition is a process that involves the ramp up of community services to replace hyper militarized responses to all calls. Yep, it's like a kid not liking how he is being treated on the field, so he takes the ball and goes home. It's just further proof that the whole thing needs to be reformed. ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/15/2020 05:22 AM
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The police exist to serve the community, not the other way around. The terms of their service are fully the responsibility of the community, not the corrupt fake police "union".
If they want to quit, they can easily be replaced. Nail salon techs have more training. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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07/15/2020 05:29 AM
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Remember the story of the ex-military guy cop that refused to shoot the man with mental issues? We need more of that. His training made all the difference.
Hey rusty, there is that training thing again. ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/15/2020 07:12 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/15/2020 07:15 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/15/2020 07:17 AM
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The police aren't going anywhere and there will be reforms from the inside.
It turns out that black lives do matter. ------------------------- I was right. |
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07/15/2020 08:21 AM
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It turns out getting real numbers matter. The police did not treat deaths in custody as homicides. They don't keep stats at all. They don't coordinate stats with the state or the nation and the only way to get that info was to pull county medical examiners' summaries. It turns out county medical examiners work very closely with prosecutors and 25% felt pressure from them to influence their conclusions. Most are elected. It's been, up to this point, a perfect way to hide the race of decedents, the causes of death and the volume. That's going to change too.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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07/15/2020 08:27 AM
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You don't say?
Who would have guessed that? Get ready to have New Yorkers for neighbors.
------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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07/15/2020 08:44 AM
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The system needs to be gutted and start new. It's antiquated and steeped in corruption.
Edited: 07/15/2020 at 08:45 AM by HAPDigital |
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07/15/2020 08:55 AM
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police academy should be a four year training, and their pay should reflect a career with that level of expertise and hazard comp.
------------------------- I troll 2L.com to be a better person in real life |
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07/15/2020 09:09 AM
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police academy should be a four year training, and their pay should reflect a career with that level of expertise and hazard comp. If they do not gut the working system, gutting the educational system will not change a thing. It's inside the PDs that are the problem. The toxicity starts at the top. It's a social order, not a public service. Have you ever seen training day? Better yet, watch that doc on making a police complaint. LOL |
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07/15/2020 09:20 AM
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This is partly the cost of endless war. Most of these cops are ex-military, where they were fed this "warrior" bullshit.
Then they come home and get training that's literally based on "shoot first, ask questions later" and a code of silence that protects predators. Sad thing is they shoot a lot of white folks too, but the american public has become so indoctrinated to war culture since 9/11 that they don't dare question a boot. I don't have the stats handy but the rates of domestic violence among cop families is nuts. We're not in Mayberry anymore Floyd. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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07/15/2020 09:22 AM
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This is partly the cost of endless war. Most of these cops are ex-military, where they were fed this "warrior" bullshit. Then they come home and get training that's literally based on "shoot first, ask questions later" and a code of silence that protects predators. Sad thing is they shoot a lot of white folks too, but the american public has become so indoctrinated to war culture since 9/11 that they don't dare question a boot. I don't have the stats handy but the rates of domestic violence among cop families is nuts. We're not in Mayberry anymore Floyd. This is false. Police generally do not like veterans on the force. It clashes with the corrupt values. Only 20% of our police are veterans. Edited: 07/15/2020 at 09:22 AM by HAPDigital |
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07/15/2020 09:36 AM
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This is false. Police generally do not like veterans on the force. It clashes with the corrupt values. Only 20% of our police are veterans. Let me re-phrase; ex-military are over represented in the police forces. You can't swing a dead cat in a police station without hitting a troop. But all cats are beautiful. ------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti Edited: 07/15/2020 at 09:37 AM by RustyTruck |
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07/15/2020 10:01 AM
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But your idea that the military "warrior bullshit" is what makes PDs corrupt is completely wrong and it is quite the opposite.
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07/15/2020 10:02 AM
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The military works on a core set of values. It is why war criminals, like that guy Trump recently pardoned, are so rare.
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