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 04/17/2020 06:23 AM
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Dr. Oz Suggests Schools Should Reopen Because 'Only' 2% To 3% More People Could Die

That's one way to cull the herd...

What's that oath you took? The hypocritical oath?

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 04/17/2020 06:33 AM
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Confirmation in. Dr. Oz's multiple plastic surgeries, poop fixation, and throng of anti-vaccer fans have made him into a mindless money grubbing robot perfect for appearances on faux.
 04/17/2020 06:59 AM
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I think every business should reopen with the exception of schools, film making and pot stores.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

I think every business should reopen with the exception of schools, film making and pot stores.


You really don't want to go back to clown school, huh?
 04/17/2020 07:57 AM
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That vague 2 to 3 percent of deaths for his manufactured impatience with a stalled economy might actually change once someone he loves dies needlessly. His Hippocratic oath has been replaced with his hypocritical oath.

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 04/17/2020 08:01 AM
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I think every business should reopen with the exception of schools, film making and pot stores.


Pot stores to remain closed?...you bastard!

Edited: 04/17/2020 at 08:02 AM by theglide
 04/17/2020 08:40 AM
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open it all up and let natural selection run its course. there will be far tpaps and fks left in the world
 04/17/2020 12:13 PM
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Damn right, we need to repeal any law that forces insurance to cover pre-existing conditions, repeal the tax subsidy for employer provided insurance (employer provided insurance should be taxed like any other compensation), and most of all repeal EMTALA. If you can't afford health care and you can't buy insurance because you are uninsurable with your pre-existing conditions then tough shit. Give them the free market that they want.

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Originally posted by: scombrid Damn right, we need to repeal any law that forces insurance to cover pre-existing conditions, repeal the tax subsidy for employer provided insurance (employer provided insurance should be taxed like any other compensation), and most of all repeal EMTALA. If you can't afford health care and you can't buy insurance because you are uninsurable with your pre-existing conditions then tough shit. Give them the free market that they want.
Interesting....so why was health care more affordable, before "insurance" came along? Was it the free market that drove up the costs?

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 04/17/2020 07:29 PM
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There is a good chapter about it in Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom. The tax subsidy for employer provided insurance was the big market distorter that started us down this road to massive inflation. Next on the market distorting list is that the big "insurance" schemes aren't insurance. They are prepaid health care with a bloated middle man. The consumer isn't directly involoved in transactions. Free market would absolutely make the lowest cost for health care as long as all controls are taken off.

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 04/17/2020 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by: scombrid

There is a good chapter about it in Friedman's Capitalism and Freedom. The tax subsidy for employer provided insurance was the big market distorter that started us down this road to massive inflation. Next on the market distorting list is that the big "insurance" schemes aren't insurance. They are prepaid health care with a bloated middle man. The consumer isn't directly involoved in transactions. Free market would absolutely make the lowest cost for health care as long as all controls are taken off.


No, public healthcare with no profit motive would be the lowest cost. There's ample evidence.

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 04/18/2020 03:21 AM
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One thing that is needed for a free market to work efficiently is that all transactions need to be fully voluntary between completely informed and consenting parties. That does tend to break down when you need truly time-critical life saving care. That asymmetry between producer and consumer can itself lead to price inflation. Then of course it ends up needing regulation to stop the formation of monopolies, especially in smaller markets. But pay-as-you-go care with insurance just purchased to cover big stuff would bring cost down a lot. It would just be unpleasant for some folks. I would make out well in the short run. That wouldnt be the case for a 30 year old type-I diabetic or if I was 20 years older. If the Trump crowd wants that then we should give it a whirl.

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 04/18/2020 10:06 AM
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We all know the risking of American lives is all about keeping Trump in office.

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 04/18/2020 11:55 AM
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://digitalcommons.pepperdine.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1086%26context%3Dppr&ved=2ahUKEwjo_4-A0_LoAhUMJt8KHdwUBewQFjAPegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3yCU5y2GsYePUhLoya_-xf

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http://digitalcommons.pepperdi...ticle=1086&context=ppr


Warning to all Trump fans, the above requires reading.

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Edited: 04/18/2020 at 12:36 PM by Cole
 04/18/2020 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by: OBX
Originally posted by: scombrid Damn right, we need to repeal any law that forces insurance to cover pre-existing conditions, repeal the tax subsidy for employer provided insurance (employer provided insurance should be taxed like any other compensation), and most of all repeal EMTALA. If you can't afford health care and you can't buy insurance because you are uninsurable with your pre-existing conditions then tough shit. Give them the free market that they want.
Interesting....so why was health care more affordable, before "insurance" came along? Was it the free market that drove up the costs?
When was the time "before insurance"?

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 04/22/2020 03:31 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole http://digitalcommons.pepperdi...ticle=1086&context=ppr Warning to all Trump fans, the above requires reading.
Thanks for fixing.

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 04/22/2020 06:01 AM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: all3

Originally posted by: OBX

Originally posted by: scombrid

Damn right, we need to repeal any law that forces insurance to cover pre-existing conditions, repeal the tax subsidy for employer provided insurance (employer provided insurance should be taxed like any other compensation), and most of all repeal EMTALA. If you can't afford health care and you can't buy insurance because you are uninsurable with your pre-existing conditions then tough shit. Give them the free market that they want.


Interesting....so why was health care more affordable, before "insurance" came along? Was it the free market that drove up the costs?


When was the time "before insurance"?


I'd like to know this too?



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