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Topic Title: So which is it?
Topic Summary: The post mortem will be brutal for the GOP.
Created On: 02/03/2020 06:05 AM
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 02/03/2020 06:05 AM
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johnnyboy

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Was this impeachment a deep state conspiracy witch hunt by the lefti wing liberal mainstream or was it a bad thing trump did, proven by the existing evidence but just not bad enough to remove him from office.

The answer is dependent on whether your constituents have been gerrymandered into a district that will see you die if old age before you are voted out of office or whether you have a chance to lose and you have to acknowledge all those lies trump told were not in fact "perfect" and you that you get it but the general election should decide this, not the senate.

The senate as a jury delivered a miscarriage of justice and they know the November election will force their rationale for doing so to become fodder for their opponents. Moscow Mitch pioneered this type of senate paralysis with the Merrick Garland punt. He said the voters would decide who picks the next Supreme Court justice and promptly refused to do his job until after the election. This is what is happening with trump. This is what they want. They want absolution in the form of trump's reelection. They can avoid any accountability, pretend their constituents made the choice and masquerade as lawmakers.

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 02/03/2020 01:02 PM
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Cole

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Very on point JB, but the dumb fucks don't care. lol

I do get a kick out of their pathetic hypocrisy.

In the Reagan/Bush years, they loved trade deals. Now they prefer union inspired tariffs and trade wars.

They screamed at Obama to get out of the Middle East, then attacked him relentlessly when he did. Now they agree when Trump says we should get out, but they also agree when Trump adds more troops to Iraq.

They yelled when Clinton held up her tax returns, but defend Trump with every worthless argument on Earth.

Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush years: Russia will be the death of the US! Trump years: You know, Vlad really isn't that bad..

Obama was weak with North Korea. BOO OBAMA! Trump meets the POS dictator on more or less his own soil, yet gets nothing in return. YEA TRUMP!

Obama treats our allies like shit! Trump is great! He makes them pay!

Obama golf...nuff said.

Yep, Trump has turn the Grand Old party into the pathetic, indescribable mess that it is now. And that gets a big, fat LOL!











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 02/03/2020 05:26 PM
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jdbman

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In several years we may judge Trump differently....


Look at the litany of political whipsawing that we have seen in our life times:


Kennedy/ Johnson begets Nixon , Nixon/Ford begets Cater, then Regan/BushI, begets Clinton, begets BushII, begets Obama.......Trump.

Trump has washed out the Repug party. He has taken the Tea Party bs to the farthest extreme. It will be a long road back if ever for what used to be the GOP.


So if we had to suffer for awhile during Trump to get a long term better result, then that may end up well.

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 02/03/2020 05:27 PM
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yup GOP short game.

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 02/03/2020 05:33 PM
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Bamboo

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O. Bradley said: Set your course by the stars, not by the lights of every passing ship.

The GOP should consider this and get back to their roots.

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 02/03/2020 05:45 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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checkmate, you checker players need to learn how to play chess
 02/03/2020 05:47 PM
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HAPDigital

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

checkmate, you checker players need to learn how to play chess


Why? You are still playing 'tic tag toe'.
 02/03/2020 06:06 PM
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fishkller

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LOL Drunkyfiveo playing chess..






do you cheat at that too?

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 02/04/2020 07:11 AM
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johnnyboy

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Trump: it was a perfect call. I will make more prefect calls.

Fox GOP: it was bad but not that bad. No need to remove the man from the sacred post he has sodomized.

Vulnerable GOP: we need more witnesses. We want to appear centrist but at the very end, we vote with the Majority.

Vulnerable democrats: we should use this power very carefully and without knowing more, we just can't commit to removing him.

The rank and file democrats: why point a telescope at the sun. You saw it. He admitted it and he will do it again. Why are we even pretending this is a trial?

75% of the public wanted to hear from Bolton. The GOP won this battle. As jurors, they fixed the results and they pulled it off. But this is not the war. It's a battle. In November, that same 75% will the jurors. I will be a juror. It's not just trump who will be on trial, it will be the entire GOP and their castrated chorus of why they had no choice. The senate and the executive are at stake. The pendulum may swing through the senate and leave them talking about the same fairness and history that they mocked when they were in power. If RBG died today, would Moscow Mitch really hold the appointment until after the election? The war will happen in November.

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 02/04/2020 07:25 AM
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tpapablo

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Post mortem? You guys lost. Why did you lose? Stupidity. A tip for you: Calling the people who humiliated you for the umpteenth time corrupt fools doesn't help your cause.

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 02/13/2020 03:41 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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Originally posted by: fishkller

LOL Drunkyfiveo playing chess..













do you cheat at that too?

wheres your next antifa meeting, are you the local leader or is it rt? when and where we will get you some new members
 02/13/2020 04:51 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Post mortem? You guys lost. Why did you lose? Stupidity.

A tip for you: Calling the people who humiliated you for the umpteenth time corrupt fools doesn't help your cause.


Lost a rigged game that the public knew was rigged? lol

Hardly a loss.



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 02/14/2020 04:42 PM
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johnnyboy

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The latest Roger Stone problem and Barr's exposure as a corrupt loyalist makes the GOP look even worse.

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 02/15/2020 10:14 AM
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cheaterfiveo

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wait a week or two and you will see
 02/15/2020 07:12 PM
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RustyTruck

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Originally posted by: cheaterfiveo

wait a week or two and you will see


See a criminal go free maybe. Corrupt justice dept. Can do wonders for getting mobsters off the hook.

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 02/17/2020 05:01 AM
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johnnyboy

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The Judge will force trump's hand. She will give Stone a guideline sentence and trump will pardon him. This scenario seems likely with the judge scheduling a meeting tomorrow with the new and improved prosecutors. Their recommendations will hold no weight since they didn't try the case and the judge will quiz them on the details that she found worthy of prison. They will not have the audacity or stupidity to make trump's argument that the real criminals were the democrats that got away with everything.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

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