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Topic Title: Fox News today.
Topic Summary: Is some serious propaganda.
Created On: 01/03/2020 09:43 AM
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 01/05/2020 04:26 PM
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nukeh2o

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"Targeting cultural sites...."
You mean like the Islamic State eradication of any non muslim history chumpfscum?
Herr chumpf shit on our most loyal allies, the kurds, in the area. The rooskies control it now folks.
The US military just got told to leave Iraq by its elected government.
You know: the nation we fought a war to create.....
Our nato allies openly laugh at your mighty orange traitor....
so much winning.
This Suleiman dirtball should have been dusted in about '07. The advanced ied technology he introduced utterly shredded our priceless warfighters. Where were dumbya and darth cheney then?
This is yet another bullshit attempt at lie, spin, distract by these idiots.
PERIOD!

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Edited: 01/05/2020 at 04:41 PM by nukeh2o
 01/06/2020 05:47 AM
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Cole

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Fox is the state news agency, though the word news should be replaced with propaganda.

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 01/06/2020 06:14 AM
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stokedpanda

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I heard on the radio and Iraqi who helped defend the embassy from the attacks was killed in the drone strike.....

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 01/06/2020 06:20 AM
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RiddleMe

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that is odd. was he assigned to guard the iranian general? or something else?
 01/06/2020 06:41 AM
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Cole

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http://www.newsweek.com/six-ir...-trump-baghdad-1480365

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 01/06/2020 06:50 AM
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RustyTruck

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Iran backed militias have warned Iraqis to avoid American installations for their own safety. Iran says they will not target US civilians.

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 01/06/2020 07:04 AM
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RiddleMe

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pmf is supported by iran, fought against the us, were in on storming the embassy, etc. well that explains why iraqi's were taken out in the airstrike too
 01/06/2020 07:25 AM
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johnnyboy

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What happens when the Iranians respond to trumps threats to destroy their holy sites in kind. Would it surprise anyone if the number one target for Iran is Maralago? Being a Palm Beach County resident, I suspect we are in the crosshairs.

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 01/06/2020 07:56 AM
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wtf

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

The guy has become the Iranian CEO of terror. The most dangerous mastermind we have never heard of. Here's the thing. He's a bad guy and he probably knew he wasn't going to get to retire and bounce grand kids in his knee. But it's suspect how he becomes the genius terrorist mastermind now that he's been exterminated. His death is a benefit to us but that's not the issue. Was it legal and do we even care anymore about that?

Outside or Iran foreign policy experts, not ONE single person knew who this guy was before 1/3.


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 01/06/2020 08:29 AM
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crankit

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For the libtatd supporters of Iran;
There were ten times more air strikes in the covert war on terror during President Barack Obama's presidency than under his predecessor, George W. Bush.
Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama's two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.
The use of drones aligned with Obama's ambition to keep up the war against al Qaeda while extricating the US military from intractable, costly ground wars in the Middle East and Asia. But the targeted killing programme has drawn much criticism.
The Obama administration has insisted that drone strikes are so "exceptionally surgical and precise" that they pluck off terror suspects while not putting "innocent men, women and children in danger". This claim has been contested by numerous human rights groups, however, and the Bureau's figures on civilian casualties also demonstrate that this is often not the case.
The White House released long-awaited figures last July on the number of people killed in drone strikes between January 2009 and the end of 2015, an announcement which insiders said was a direct response to pressure from the Bureau and other organisations that collect data. However the US's estimate of the number of civilians killed - between 64 and 116 - contrasted strongly with the number recorded by the Bureau, which at 380 to 801 was six times higher.
That figure does not include deaths in active battlefields including Afghanistan - where US air attacks have shot up since Obama withdrew the majority of his troops at the end of 2014. The country has since come under frequent US bombardment, in an unreported war that saw 1,337 weapons dropped last year alone - a 40% rise on 2015.
Afghan civilian casualties have been high, with the United Nations (UN) reporting at least 85 deaths in 2016. The Bureau recorded 65 to 105 civilian deaths during this period. We did not start collecting data on Afghanistan until 2015.
Pakistan was the hub of drone operations during Obama's first term. The pace of attacks had accelerated in the second half of 2008 at the end of Bush's term, after four years pocked by occasional strikes. However in the year after taking office, Obama ordered more drone strikes than Bush did during his entire presidency. The 54 strikes in 2009 all took place in Pakistan.
563 Strikes in Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama's two terms
57 Strikes in those countries under George W. Bush
Strikes in the country peaked in 2010, with 128 CIA drone attacks and at least 89 civilians killed, at the same time US troop numbers surged in Afghanistan. Pakistan strikes have since fallen with just three conducted in the country last year.
Obama also began an air campaign targeting Yemen. His first strike was a catastrophe: commanders thought they were targeting al Qaeda but instead hit a tribe with cluster munitions, killing 55 people. Twenty-one were children - 10 of them under five. Twelve were women, five of them pregnant.
Through 2010 and the first half of 2011 US strikes in Yemen continued sporadically. The air campaign then began in earnest, with the US using its drones and jets to help Yemeni ground forces oust al Qaeda forces who had taken advantage of the country's Arab Spring to seize a swath of territory in the south of the country.
In Somalia, US Special Operations Forces and gunships had been fighting al Qaeda and its al Shabaab allies since January 2007. The US sent drones to Djibouti in 2010 to support American operations in Yemen, but did not start striking in Somalia until 2011.

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 01/06/2020 08:46 AM
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Greensleeves

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So to spankit every terrorist/diplomatic/situation is the same?
 01/06/2020 08:51 AM
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wtf

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Again dotards cannot tell the difference between support of the US Constitution and this supposed 'support for Iran' - oh yeah, that's what fox told you to say.

I mean wtf are you boomers talking about?

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 01/06/2020 09:02 AM
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RustyTruck

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Obama was wrong to use drones like he did, and I was wrong for supporting it at the time; but even Obama was smart enough not to carry out assassinations of foreign officials.

Now we're the terrorists in the eyes of the world.

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 01/06/2020 09:22 AM
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crankit

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But he killed US citizens without due process and thousands of civilians!

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 01/06/2020 09:30 AM
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Greensleeves

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I am for our use of drones on targets that our intelligence determines to be of imminent threat to American citizens.

What is spankit babbling about?
 01/06/2020 10:07 AM
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crankit

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Try google greensnot!

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 01/06/2020 10:24 AM
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johnnyboy

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So are you condemning trump or excusing Obama it vice versa. What is your point?

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 01/06/2020 10:50 AM
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johnnyboy

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The propaganda continues. This is from Fox today with the headline CNN puts building a mood of doom narrative ahead of facts. Quote from the reporting of that network: "Recent headlines on CNN's homepage include "Uproar and consequences mount after Soleimani killing," "Opinion: Why the killing of Iran's top general won't 'stop a war,'" "Crisis deepens after killing of Iran's top general," "Crowd chants 'death to the US' at Soleimani funeral," "Huge crowds flood street for Soleimanu's funeral, calling for revenge and retaliation" and a quote from Soleimanu's daughter who said his death will bring "darker days" for the U.S. and Israel."

Meanwhile, fox pundits "report" that the Ayatollah must be stunned by the most daring move in our relations with that country for 41 years. They also point out that this action shows what America first looks like in action and how this killing is a game changer. All of these are rank speculation, which is what they were supposedly complaining about. You see what they did there, they couldn't say CNN wasn't reporting facts, so they reported that they were reporting facts to create a narrative.

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 01/06/2020 11:03 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Narcissistic sociopath usurps the Constitution to give himself full control.
What could go wrong?
 01/06/2020 11:33 AM
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RustyTruck

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Sounds like Israel is pretending they don't know us. "The assassination of Soleimani isn't an Israeli event but an American event. We were not involved and should not be dragged into it."

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