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Created On: 12/24/2019 01:23 PM
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 12/24/2019 01:23 PM
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Cole

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The Republican Party is dead?

http://fivethirtyeight.com/fea...r-of-the-gop-in-2019/

Trump Completed His Takeover Of The GOP In 2019

Donald Trump won the GOP nomination and then the presidency even as many prominent officials within the party opposed him. He spent much of his first two years in office struggling to get his policies enacted, with top advisers such as then-Defense Secretary Jim Mattis essentially ignoring his demands. Early in his tenure, the GOP-controlled House and Senate adopted several measures, such as new sanctions on Russia, that it was clear Trump did not truly support, leaving the president looking irrelevant. At the same time, Trump was being investigated by the executive branch that he was running, in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe.

Even as he was losing some fights in 2017 and 2018, though, Trump was also steadily beating back Republican resistance to his leadership. In many ways, 2019 was the culmination of that work. As we approach the end of the year, Trump is truly in charge of the party now - a fact that was powerfully illustrated last week when every Republican member of the House opposed impeachment despite ample evidence that the president and his team tried to force the Ukrainian government to investigate the former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Let me unpack that idea by looking at power centers within the government and the broader Republican Party.


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 12/24/2019 02:16 PM
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RustyTruck

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Party and power beats patriotism. Look at our local trumpists, they will believe anything Daddy trump tells them.

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 12/28/2019 07:39 AM
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johnnyboy

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The impeachment is a loyalty test. Party or country? It's seems like it was decided some time ago.

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 12/28/2019 09:38 AM
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Cole

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Has a Republican ever said that what Trump did was wrong?

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 12/28/2019 10:24 AM
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Fish Killer

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2020....

DONE!

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 12/31/2019 05:54 AM
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wtf

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Yes it is. It is now the party of dotards, where the majority of his base is dumber than a box of rocks. Unfortunately stupid people also have the right to vote...

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 12/31/2019 10:13 AM
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johnnyboy

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To answer your question: yes. They have said trump was "wrong," again posing another question they won't answer. "Is it impeachable though?" That's there fall back. It looks and feels like a concession to reality while clearly communicating the intent to do nothing but watch.

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 12/31/2019 12:13 PM
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Is the Dem party dead? Certainly, the Dem mind is dead. They are now advocating policies that have resulted in millions of deaths and the economic ruination of 100's of millions. They seek to corrupt a constitution that has made us the greatest country the earth has ever seen. They seek to destroy a system that has created more wealth for the people of the world than any other system in history. Yes, the Dem party will die. Stupidity and ignorance ultimately will not prevail. And the adherents to these destructive philosophies? The too will perish. They are a collection of freaks, perverts, fools, criminals and miscreants. While those sorts will have their days in the sun from time to time, they W will eventually be relegated to the ash heap of history.

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 12/31/2019 12:21 PM
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johnnyboy

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There was a time when Tpap tried. It was before trump forced him to post ^^ this sad effort at provocation.

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 12/31/2019 12:35 PM
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Cole

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So true JB, I just make fun of him these days.



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 12/31/2019 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy There was a time when Tpap tried. It was before trump forced him to post ^^ this sad effort at provocation.
I am sure progs will believe that. They, after all bought the Russia hoax hook, line and sinker, and made fools out of themselves many times over. But normal.people will agree with me and will recognize that you cannot argue the facts with me. That's fine. I would be very concerned if progs agreed with me.

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 12/31/2019 01:46 PM
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Cole

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Trump's campaign "expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts." - The Mueller Report

Hoax? lol

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 12/31/2019 06:02 PM
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Trollpap coming in with the same tired fruitless attempts at ruffling somebody's feathers.. it's just sad and boring at this point, but I'll throw him a bone and nod at his presence.. kinda not worth the typing time tho.

Before too long he will be like Garyfish -desperately posting crap in threads that no one even bothers to acknowledge

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 01/01/2020 08:45 AM
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wtf

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Did a dotard just post something about facts? LMAO

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 01/01/2020 12:44 PM
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From SMU:

Dr. Joseph Goebbels, beside being an intriguing character, was the Propaganda Minister for Hitler's Third Reich. He was recognized as a master of propaganda as his work was studied after WWII. Goebbels did not survive to enjoy the recognition; he and his wife committed suicide on 1 May 1945, a week before the final collapse of the Third Reich.

After the war, US personnel discovered a very large diary dictated by Goebbels. In it are his principles of propaganda. Leonard Doob's 1950 article details them from a translation of the diary by Louis Lochner (1948).

Hitler's Basic Principles
These principles are abstracted from Jowett & O'Donnell.

Avoid abstract ideas - appeal to the emotions.
Constantly repeat just a few ideas. Use stereotyped phrases.
Give only one side of the argument.
Continuously criticize your opponents.
Pick out one special "enemy" for special vilification.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

 01/01/2020 12:47 PM
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fishkller

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it worked out well for his kids too.

Maybe we'll get a repeat

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 01/20/2020 04:18 PM
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cheaterfiveo

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

To answer your question: yes. They have said trump was "wrong," again posing another question they won't answer. "Is it impeachable though?" That's there fall back. It looks and feels like a concession to reality while clearly communicating the intent to do nothing but watch.


the door has been opened; the next obama will meet the same fate just because it is now allowable to bring bogus charges because you cannot beat them in an election. dont whine when it happens; you started it
 01/20/2020 04:56 PM
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SlimyBritches

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

Party and power beats patriotism. Look at our local trumpists, they will believe anything Daddy trump tells them.


It's all about the massive tax break for the .01%
 01/21/2020 08:41 AM
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Greensleeves

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beater5 "the door has been opened;"

MAGA5 doesn't know it already was open and has been open for ummm over 200 years?

8 years of Obama was impeccable. Either that or the GOP dumb a$$es were/are too stupid to catch him on anything?

Edited: 01/21/2020 at 09:11 AM by Greensleeves
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wtf

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

From SMU:



Dr. Joseph Goebbels, beside being an intriguing character, was the Propaganda Minister for Hitler's Third Reich. He was recognized as a master of propaganda as his work was studied after WWII. Goebbels did not survive to enjoy the recognition; he and his wife committed suicide on 1 May 1945, a week before the final collapse of the Third Reich.



After the war, US personnel discovered a very large diary dictated by Goebbels. In it are his principles of propaganda. Leonard Doob's 1950 article details them from a translation of the diary by Louis Lochner (1948).



Hitler's Basic Principles

These principles are abstracted from Jowett & O'Donnell.



Avoid abstract ideas - appeal to the emotions.

Constantly repeat just a few ideas. Use stereotyped phrases.

Give only one side of the argument.

Continuously criticize your opponents.

Pick out one special "enemy" for special vilification.

We know this.

Dotards don't have the mental capacity to understand much though. But they think they do...


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