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Topic Title: trump regime won't protect american journalists
Topic Summary: Luckily, Ireland stepped in
Created On: 09/24/2019 09:10 AM
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 09/24/2019 09:10 AM
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RustyTruck

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http://www.cnn.com/2019/09/24/...nald-trump/index.html

New York (CNN Business)A.G. Sulzberger, the publisher of The New York Times (NYT), says President Trump has undermined "his own citizens' faith in the news organizations attempting to hold him accountable" and has "effectively given foreign leaders permission to do the same with their countries' journalists."

And "they've eagerly embraced the approach," he remarked while delivering a lecture at his alma mater, Brown University.
Sulzberger's speech was newsworthy because he shared some new examples of threats to journalism in the age of Trump.
He said the Trump administration "has retreated from our country's historical role as a defender of the free press," and he described disturbing consequences both at home and abroad, according to a transcript of his speech, which was published on The Times website.

"Two years ago, we got a call from a United States government official warning us of the imminent arrest of a New York Times reporter based in Egypt named Declan Walsh," Sulzberger said.
While these heads-ups are "actually fairly standard," this particular call "took a surprising and distressing turn," Sulzberger said. "We learned the official was passing along this warning without the knowledge or permission of the Trump administration. Rather than trying to stop the Egyptian government or assist the reporter, the official believed, the Trump administration intended to sit on the information and let the arrest be carried out. The official feared being punished for even alerting us to the danger."

So the Times reached out to diplomats in Walsh's native country, Ireland, and they took action: "Within an hour, Irish diplomats traveled to his house and safely escorted him to the airport before Egyptian forces could detain him."


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 09/24/2019 09:19 AM
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says President Trump has undermined "his own citizens' faith in the news organizations..............It wasn't Trump..................it was the news outlets, editors and reporters who destroyed Americas faith in their organizations......................Their Opinion pieces disguised as news..........their covering up news for favorable political parties and their false outrage at Politicians that they don't like is what undermined faith in their organizations..................Are they trying to claim that until Trump took office people believed the NYTimes reporting and since then people don't believe???..........BS..........peoples access to the internets and to viewing unedited real news as it happens compared to the news organizations sensationalism on those same news items is what made people distrust the outlets....

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 09/24/2019 09:38 AM
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You think it'd be cool for a Dem president to not warn a Faux reporter in Egypt that he was about to be arrested by that government just because their reporting is fake?

You'd rend your garments.

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 09/24/2019 10:00 AM
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I think that any reporter that travels to a different country and disobeys the laws of that country should be punished according to the law....What make them think they are above the law??....This is the same thinking, by the same news organization that thinks they can invent news and distort news and nobody will call them on it..........and YOU SAID, just because their reporting is Fake........Oh Hell no................They falsified a report, broke the law and want the government to step in and save them............NO. they did the crime for personal or corporate gain, they do the time......... Rather than trying to stop the Egyptian government......WTF.... stop a foreign government from enforcing laws in their own country..........Only in the liberal bubble that believes we are all one world government does that even try to fly.......

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Truthful reporting is against the law in a lot of countries. I guess that is okay now too. In Saudi Arabia they'll kill you for it. If you are lucky in Israel Bibi will just have you deported to shut you up.

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 09/24/2019 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

You think it'd be cool for a Dem president to not warn a Faux reporter in Egypt that he was about to be arrested by that government just because their reporting is fake?



You'd rend your garments.


It wasn't cool for a Demprez to take a vacation in his own state or for hias wife to wear a sleeveless top. Now it's ok for the prez to attack a us citizen on foreign soil and his wife has shown her tetas to whom ever will pay.
 09/24/2019 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by: somebodyelse says President Trump has undermined "his own citizens' faith in the news organizations..............It wasn't Trump..................it was the news outlets, editors and reporters who destroyed Americas faith in their organizations......................Their Opinion pieces disguised as news..........their covering up news for favorable political parties and their false outrage at Politicians that they don't like is what undermined faith in their organizations..................Are they trying to claim that until Trump took office people believed the NYTimes reporting and since then people don't believe???..........BS..........peoples access to the internets and to viewing unedited real news as it happens compared to the news organizations sensationalism on those same news items is what made people distrust the outlets....
Yep. They refused to jump on the Birther bandwagon or help stop Jade Helm like the real truth tellers and look where it got them.

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 09/24/2019 10:59 AM
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Don't know why anyone would expect Trump to do any favors for reporters.

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 09/24/2019 11:01 AM
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and look where it got them..... where is that? what did it get them??? They are NOT TRUSTED.......They make up false stories, they create the news and report their opinion like it was written in stone.....This is NOT Trumps doing..........the NY Times has been caught lying by people who have Access to the real facts... The Internet is what cause the NY Times fall from grace......They were caught trying 1950 and 60 editorial tricks by a new generation of people who can access the real facts from hundreds of sources.....

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RustyTruck

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You got a passport Pabs? Get it out of your sock drawer and read what it says inside the cover. Do you think it applies only to those who bow down before the imperial president?

The fact that this man, who lost the popular vote, thinks he can wield the power of this country in favor of his friends and as a weapon to his enemies, and it goes unchallenged by any check or balance is proof that this country is a fraud and nothing more than another corrupt authoritarian regime, unworthy of the respect it once received in the world.

But wait... Somewhere in the mass of government bureaucrats a lone voice did relay the warning in defiance of the regime, and at personal risk. Perhaps the game might not be over as long as there are rebels.


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 09/24/2019 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by: somebodyelse people who can access the real facts from hundreds of sources.....
Like Ruptly, RT, Infowars, NaturalNews, YourNewsWire, NewsPunch, that science page that Ding just linked to with all its awesome information about vaccines, GMOs, and even chemtrails... Yeah, people's eyes are wide open to the truth these days.

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 09/24/2019 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo Don't know why anyone would expect Trump to do any favors for reporters.
Trump, Putin, and Assad; pees in a pod.

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 09/24/2019 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Don't know why anyone would expect Trump to do any favors for reporters.


Because (I can't believe I have to say this), they are Americans and he is the president of the United states.

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 09/24/2019 11:39 AM
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He's no president, he's a coil of orange poo with a bad wig who doesn't know how to read.

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 09/24/2019 12:00 PM
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Its simple, if you kill the press, make the public believe that any facts are partisan, then you can sow chaos and break the law. As for Tpapsmear asking who is surprised by Trump's actions, the answer is no one. The effect of that is to normalize this attack, rationalize and defend it. The President is such liar that his remarks are now only newsworthy when they are true. Ponder that. Here's a little tip for you too, when the President says fake news, he's only two days from being proven a liar. For example, he lied about Ukraine, he denied it outright. Then he conceded what he had to due to the whistleblower complaint. Then his spin vampire Ghoulliani admitted it and tried to claim that there crime was necessary to expose the crimes of the Bidens. When it first happened, Trump declared it fake news. He's now busted lying so its now not fake news, but he has to spin it that the "real" story is not his crime but Biden's. How's that for fake news.

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