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Topic Title: Does anyone think he would be dumb enough to do that?
Topic Summary: Over a recorded line?
Created On: 09/24/2019 08:56 AM
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 09/24/2019 08:56 AM
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johnnyboy

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There's a transcript. Now I guess it's the being blocked for the same reason as his tax returns: nothing to hide.

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 09/24/2019 09:13 AM
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RustyTruck

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Still won't matter to the flock, but this thing is damning.

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 09/24/2019 09:26 AM
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johnnyboy

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A transcript?!?!?!?


It's coming out harder than George Michael. Careless whispers. That's funny.

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 09/24/2019 11:23 AM
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Fish Killer

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Yo....SHITFORBRAINS!

"President Trump said in a tweet that he will release on Wednesday a transcript of his phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, in which they reportedly discussed an investigation involving Joe Biden."

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 09/24/2019 11:32 AM
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Is Barr going to give us the "summarized" version? LOL

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 09/24/2019 12:10 PM
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johnnyboy

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So much faith. Faith Faith Faith.



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 09/24/2019 01:12 PM
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IF we get the transcript, this will be spun again. It started with it didn't happen, then went to "I did nothing wrong" to whats the big deal. The whole goal to steer any blame to the Biden's will force Trump to the offensive. "How come no one cares about their crimes? They did it first." Pay particular attention to when Trump had his interview with Stephanopoulos where he admits he would accept foreign aid against political rivals. Interesting timing in hindsight.

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 09/24/2019 02:06 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

IF we get the transcript, this will be spun again. It started with it didn't happen, then went to "I did nothing wrong" to whats the big deal. The whole goal to steer any blame to the Biden's will force Trump to the offensive. "How come no one cares about their crimes? They did it first." Pay particular attention to when Trump had his interview with Stephanopoulos where he admits he would accept foreign aid against political rivals. Interesting timing in hindsight.


Guess you will be eating SHIT once again!

Enjoy!

http://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/24...VuiZfFvNccmGN6CCDAElvc

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 09/24/2019 02:18 PM
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RustyTruck

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Senate will protect him no matter what

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 09/24/2019 02:21 PM
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So how might the justice department explain why they refused to hand over the transcript within 7 days to congress, thereby breaking the law. How could they cite national security reasons as the basis to refuse to hand it over yesterday and apparently hand over the whole thing tomorrow with no redactions? I'm skeptical they will but it's the department of justice that will be eating their words.


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 09/24/2019 02:27 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

So how might the justice department explain why they refused to hand over the transcript within 7 days to congress, thereby breaking the law. How could they cite national security reasons as the basis to refuse to hand it over yesterday and apparently hand over the whole thing tomorrow with no redactions? I'm skeptical they will but it's the department of justice that will be eating their words.


Nope!

You will be eating shit!

AGAIN!

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-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 09/24/2019 02:28 PM
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Fish Killer

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Pelosi agreed to impeach trump....yall will be eating a TON of shit real soon!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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 09/24/2019 02:38 PM
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johnnyboy

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This will be fun. So how does the justice department justify stonewalling on a conversation that trump described as "perfect" only to let it verbatim a month later? I guess they whistleblower overheard the perfection and trump just thought it was too perfect to share until it was going to come out anyway?

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 09/24/2019 02:53 PM
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I'll be interested to hear what the recording has to say. I also wonder if they will ever say who the leaker was. If this recording turns out to show no signs of quid pro quo at all, then I will be convinced that Trump's team is responsible for leaking the story in order to inadvertently bring the story about the Bidens to the forefront while making Democrats looks stupid at the same time. Trump has a golden opportunity to do major damage due to the fact that the media will run with any story that makes him look bad, whether there is any truth to it or not, without verifying anything. He has the ability to set them up pretty easily. Same with his ability to have the DNC oppose any position he takes. He can support clean air and the Democrats will oppose him. He can push them so far left that they go off the cliff.

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 09/24/2019 03:24 PM
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I do think they threw a rabbit in the briar patch.

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 09/24/2019 04:03 PM
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Earlier today James Clapper said the following on CNN, "You know, I hate to suggest this, but it's crossed my mind that even if we got a transcript, well, can we be assured that's actually what was said? So getting a transcript may not be such a great thing, either."

Those are not the words of someone who is confident that this will bring Trump down. It sounds like Clapper is preparing Democrats for another letdown.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden
 09/24/2019 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Sniper

Earlier today James Clapper said the following on CNN, "You know, I hate to suggest this, but it's crossed my mind that even if we got a transcript, well, can we be assured that's actually what was said? So getting a transcript may not be such a great thing, either."



Those are not the words of someone who is confident that this will bring Trump down. It sounds like Clapper is preparing Democrats for another letdown.


No, he is saying that Trump is a liar and a cheat and not beyond giving bogus information. The WH has already broken the law. To that there is no question.



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 09/24/2019 04:11 PM
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fishkller

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Nah, it is the words of someone that no longer trusts the current admin to tell the truth- even to the point producing fake documents. More than half the country concurs.

But you did make a good point about the leak coming from the Trump camp originally as a set up. It's a possibility. Buuuuut it would be a pretty smart thing to do- not exactly El Duce's forte.

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 09/24/2019 04:14 PM
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johnnyboy

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That's a classic roger stone type of trick.

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 09/24/2019 04:29 PM
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fishkller

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Yep. ..Thus it is a solid possibility.

We should get a couple of those going ourselves

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