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 02/11/2021 05:05 AM
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Central Floridave

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LL Cool J
Todd Rundgren
Tina Turner
Mary J Blige
Iron Maiden
Foo Fighters (Their new album is pretty good btw)
Chaka Khan
Fela Kuti
Carole King
Rage Against The Machine
Devo
The Go-Go's
Kate Bush
Jay-Z
Dionne Warwick
New York Dolls
 02/11/2021 05:07 AM
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The list of 16 nominees for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 2021 Induction has been announced and the Fan Vote is now officially open. Today through April 30, fans can vote for up to 5 nominees daily.

https://vote.rockhall.com/
 02/11/2021 05:34 AM
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Central Floridave

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my quickee first impressions of list:

LL Cool J. -helped create gangsta rap. Good or bad, did help create a new genre. i liked a couple of his songs back in the 80s. But, not familiar with him now. See him on tv all the time.

Todd Rundgren Definitely part of rock history. Why not. Not a big fan but I have a friend who is.

Tina Turner - uh. yes. Her live shows with all the rock greats should be enough, but also she was there on the ground floor of rock n roll.

Mary J Blige - eh. I guess. I like her voice but not too familiar with her.

Iron Maiden Duh. of course.

Foo Fighters - yes. Keeping harder edge rock alive! I listened to their new album a couple days ago. Liked it.

Chaka Khan- Chaka khan chaka khan. Uh. sure. I guess.

Fela Kuti - heard the name would have to google to become familiar with.

Carole King- huh? not my cup of tea. folksy. Maybe, dunno.

Rage Against The Machine - yes. of course. the epitome of rock n roll. Sticking it to the man!

Devo - most definitely yes. ground breakers in quirky weird alternative.

The Go-Go's - eh. sure. they were there and made a dent.

Kate Bush - huge in England, made a splash in the USA with Peter Gabriel songs with collab. a year or two I went deeper in her catalog. eh...maybe.

Jay-Z - whatever. not too familliar with his music. but he is big in what he does.

Dionne Warwick - huh. dunno. i hate love ballads, so prob a no for me.

New York Dolls - influential glam rock band. I never was into them but other bands state they were influenced by them. I couldn't name one song they do but have checked out old youtube clips. Whatever. prob a no for me. Dress like women and play pub rock. I guess that was unique back in the 70s at the time.

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 02/11/2021 11:15 AM
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Devo is overdue. I don't know how cool J, the lady's love, is that kind of influence. Rage would be awesome. Jay Z is such a music industry force that he may get it. I love the GoGos but they are not everyone's cup of tea. Same with Foo fighters and groehl in for a second time.

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Really?

Rock is dead.

Devo had lots of great songs that were mainstream first wave alt. ( Modern Life, No place like home )

Tina Turner was an awesome in concert.
Foo: ok

Most of these are not : ROCK

I like GoGo , but not enough there

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R&R Hall of Fame ...... F-ing, please.

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 02/12/2021 03:03 AM
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They are literally trolling, at this point

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 02/12/2021 06:49 AM
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billboard list who they think gets in and who don't with odds:

https://www.billboard.com/arti...me-2021-nominees-odds/
 02/12/2021 06:52 AM
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 02/12/2021 07:02 AM
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Suffice to say that Todd Rundgren could care less as to whether his third time will be the charm with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

The veteran rocker -- who kicks off his Clearly Human Virtual Tour on Sunday, Feb. 14 -- has been placed on the nominees ballot for a third straight year. But he won't be waiting with bated breath for the results.

"It's no secret that I don't care about it," Rundgren told Billboard during a break from rehearsals in Chicago, where the tour concerts will be emanating from. "It doesn't matter how many times they nominate me. It's not gonna make me care."
A few factors account for Rundgren's ambivalence (at best) towards the Rock Hall, which he terms "an industry invention." For starters, he's a firm believer that "true halls of fame are for retirees and dead people, because your legacy has been established. I'm too busy working to worry about my legacy -- and plan to continue working until whenever." He also finds the makeup of the nominee list and inductee classes veering too far from what he considers appropriate.

"I'm a big Dionne Warwick fan, but name me one Dionne Warwick rock 'n' roll song," he explains. "While I'm aware of Fela Kuti, I can't name a single musician who's ever cited him as a principal influence. Year by year it makes even less sense, so why would I be more excited about it or suddenly change my mind? Why don't they just start inducting blues guys? Why do they have to go to Dionne Warwick or Mary J. Blige?"

Rundgren's chief complaint, however, stems from how he feels his own fans were "duped" when he was first nominated during 2019. "They run this scam called the fan pool...but most fans don't realize that their votes count for absolutely nothing," Rundgren said. The top five nominees from the fan votes are turned into one additional ballot that's counted in addition to the 1,000-plus by artists and music industry professionals.

"So the first time I got nominated all my fans, who all these years have been like, 'Geez, you've got to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!," they all stepped up and bumped me up to No. 3 in the fan pool -- by a pretty wide margin. And then when the actual inductees were 1, 2, 4, 5, 6...they essentially hosed my fans. So that made me angry, and I had to tell them that it was pointless casting votes, 'cause it really doesn't count for anything."

Rundgren is also tacitly represented on this year's ballot via the New York Dolls, who's 1973 debut album he produced. "I was living New York City and was moving out to go upstate, and I thought I would pick one of those bands and do a little valentine to the New York scene before I left -- and the Dolls were pretty much the top contender," he recalled. "It was kind of a circus making that record 'cause they were living what they imagined was a rock 'n' roll lifestyle even though they hadn't put out a record and nobody out of New York City knew who they were."

 02/12/2021 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Central Floridave "I'm a big Dionne Warwick fan, but name me one Dionne Warwick rock 'n' roll song," he explains. "While I'm aware of Fela Kuti, I can't name a single musician who's ever cited him as a principal influence. Year by year it makes even less sense, so why would I be more excited about it or suddenly change my mind? Why don't they just start inducting blues guys? Why do they have to go to Dionne Warwick or Mary J. Blige?"
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 02/13/2021 06:18 AM
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Foo Fighters only
 02/13/2021 07:53 AM
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That criticism will never go away. That guy has exposed them. The only way to beat them is to join them.

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 02/16/2021 04:52 AM
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I bet Rundgren will change his mind if voted in. Just playing hard to get. .

 02/16/2021 04:54 AM
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Fan vote tallies to this date:


The top five artists, as selected by the public, will comprise a "fans' ballot" that will be tallied along with the other ballots to choose the 2021 inductees.

You can visit vote.rockhall.com to cast a ballot daily. Fans will need to login to vote. Voting is capped at one ballot per day.


Fela Kuti
133975 Votes

Tina Turner
101150 Votes

Foo Fighters
74950 Votes

Iron Maiden
61727 Votes

Carole King
60088 Votes

The Go-Go's
55740 Votes

Dionne Warwick
44641 Votes

Rage Against the Machine
44182 Votes

Chaka Khan
43351 Votes

Devo
39148 Votes

Todd Rundgren
38298 Votes

Mary J. Blige
37718 Votes

JAY-Z
33759 Votes

LL Cool J
31568 Votes

New York Dolls
26538 Votes

Kate Bush
26030 Votes

Total Votes: 852,863

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