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 12/03/2024 02:41 PM
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Central Floridave

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I watched that Syracuse Miami game. Bummer. The U is Back....NOT.

Of course, I'm just so giddy that FSU took Gus Malzhan off our hands with no 12 million dollar buy out to fire him. Wow. That wasn't on my bingo card.

Rumor is the Tulane coach or Dan Mullen to coach UCF. I think it will be the Tulane coach and waiting for the AAC championship game before announcing.

Interesting f#cking year. Enjoy the rest of the college games, it will be the off season before you know it. I've been watching a lot of football lately, pro and college. It's been some good entertainment this year.

 12/03/2024 02:53 PM
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Central Floridave

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College Football Playoff should be very interesting.

 12/03/2024 05:29 PM
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a 9-3 bama in at #11. They don't have to play in the conference championship game so sneak in the playoffs.

 12/03/2024 05:36 PM
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Did CFP Chairman Confirm Alabama is in the Playoff?
https://www.heartlandcollegesp...ama-is-in-the-playoff/
 12/03/2024 05:38 PM
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Central Floridave

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Well, well, well... 2-loss Miami is behind 3-loss Alabama in CFP rankings
Funny troll for those pesky Hurricane fans.
By Taylor Devers | 7:38 PM EST
https://chopchat.com/well-well...labama-in-cfp-rankings
 12/04/2024 12:35 PM
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Damn Dave ..... your UCF team has a TERRIBLE year ( after all of your pre/early season blowharding) and you have the f-ing stones to talk down about ANY other team??!!?? Glass houses dude, glass houses.

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 12/04/2024 12:40 PM
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My team has had a terrible 4 years. This season was just another one. I can talk down about any team I like. I was pulling for Miami. Syracuse played pretty good though.

I'm trying to figure out how a 3 loss bama team is ranked above Miami. Read a few justifications for it. It's looking like 4 SEC teams are going to get into the 12 team playoff.
 12/04/2024 03:57 PM
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I'm trying to figure out how a 3 loss bama team is ranked above Miami.
Strength of schedule, I imagine. Bama played 4 ranked teams and beat 3 of them. Miami played no ranked teams.

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 12/04/2024 04:10 PM
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Bama lost to Vandy. That should be auto disqualifier.

In common teams played.

Bama 42 USF 16
Canes 50 USF 15

Tough call. 3 losses first 2 losses though. I'd go with the 2 loss team as better team. Strength of Schedule is subjective.

For the eye test I've watched more Miami games than Bama this year and thought the canes were better at least on offense. Cam Ward is a generational talent.

I lost track of Bama and who plays for them so I don't know all the details. Just 3 losses, one being Vandy. Dismiss. Bring back Saban.

It seems like sneaking into the CFP and not having to play a conference championship game is the way to go. Bama now gets to rest this weekend before playing again.

The chance of a key player getting injured in the champ game is higher than not playing. I like the conference winner gets a bye in the play off. But, if you lose the conference game you aren't in the playoff seems weird. I'll guess I'll just sit and wait and see how it all plays out.

UCF still hasn't announced a new head coach yet. First signing day was today.



 12/04/2024 04:36 PM
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Lane Kiffin's College Football Playoff Complaints Are More SEC Entitlement

Ole Miss's real beef should be with league mate Alabama getting a likely bid, but still, the ACC is the aggrieved party in that decision.

https://www.si.com/college-foo...laints-sec-entitlement
 12/05/2024 05:10 AM
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Hey, we are State Champs. I'll take it. If I'm an NFL team, I'm trying to figure out how to draft Cam Ward.

Everything about college football is a mess. Recruiting, NIL, playoffs, on field officiating, Coach hiring/firing/contract.

If I was a college AD , I would never take a call from someone named Sexton.



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 12/05/2024 06:36 AM
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yup, college football is the Wild Wild West right now. I think it will gradually shift to the NFL model. It has to.

get rid of the college football playoff committee, go with wins and losses and win your damn conference to get into the playoffs with wild cards.

This ain't figure skating.

Bama getting into the playoffs is a mistake. There are two Big 12 teams with 2 losses in their conference championship game, and only one gets in...yet, SEC gets 4 teams in for what?

Gators are the hottest SEC team towards the end, knocking off Ole Miss and LSU. Yet, Miami goes into the swamp and dismantles the mighty Gators.

Then Bama loses to Vandy, Tenn, and a 5 loss Oklahoma team 24 to 3. Someone tell me why they are more deserving?

This is why they need to get rid of biased committee people. Look at my opinion. Who would want my opinion to count who gets into the playoffs? Nobody.

Wins and losses. Let the play in the field make the decisions, not who makes the most money.

If NFL had the college model the Dallas Cowboys would be in the playoffs no matter what their record is.

But, it is what it is, and I think the system will change next summer with the court rulings with profit sharing.

And, we all knew going to a 12 team playoff we would be arguing about #13, #14, #15 teams being left out.

Enjoy the end of football season. It's a comin'.
 12/05/2024 08:35 AM
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If UCF gets Tulane's coach or Mullen, they will be in great shape. I cannot imagine how Malzhan will improve FSU. His hurry up offense was the only innovation he brought to UCF and after that, he had nothing. What the hell is Norvell doing besides dusting off a nostalgic friendship. This is very much reminiscent of FSU's complete QB failure with DJ Ukelele, Clemson's cast off. FSU takes him and inexplicably expects great things from him and he sucks. The back up was not much better. Now, FSU needs a new QB for Malzhan to call plays for. How the f is this an improvement?

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 12/05/2024 09:39 AM
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Well, Dave, I told you so. Everybody (including you) said that expanding to 12 teams would solve the problems. As I have said over and over, there will still be bitching and griping by no. 13 and 14. (Your posts are a prime example.) You guys will never, ever be happy. They should do away with this and just go back to the old bowl system where the bowls mattered, schools (and fans) were happy getting into a bowl and two or three teams could end up no. 1 (meaning two or three sets of fans were happy). The NCAA tournament started at 8 teams, then 16, then 32, then 64 and now, what?, 72 teams AND STILL NO. 73 BITCHES. There is no good solution for football, just do the bowls, have an orgy of football on New Year's Day and go to work happy on Jan 2. Alas, I know I am pissing up a rope with you young guys who aren't old enough to have experienced it, but it truly was better back then.
 12/05/2024 10:36 AM
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from orlando sentinel


The College Football Playoff committee put Miami behind Alabama in Tuesday's penultimate College Football Playoff rankings, and the chair of the selection committee said neither team could improve their position because they are not playing in this week's conference title games.

Although that means the Hurricanes will almost certainly miss the College Football Playoff, that has not stopped Miami coach Mario Cristobal, quarterback Cam Ward and even ACC commissioner Jim Phillips from lobbying the committee to change their mind and include UM.

"We are incredibly shocked and disappointed that Miami dropped six spots to No. 12," Phillips said in a statement. "Miami has more wins and fewer losses than the team directly ahead of them and a dominant victory over an SEC team whose late-season surge includes a win over No. 13 Ole Miss. Moreover, with two losses by a combined nine points - to a ranked Syracuse team and a Georgia Tech team that just took No. 5 Georgia to eight overtimes - Miami absolutely deserves better from the committee.

"As we look ahead to the final rankings, we hope the committee will reconsider and put a deserving Miami in the field."

Cristobal also urged the committee to take another look at UM's case on Wednesday, mentioning that Miami beat teams like Louisville and Duke, which could arguably be in the top 25 rankings but were left out.

"There's confidence and trust that people will process and give consideration to what is real," Cristobal said. "There's a 28th and a 26th (teams) in there. There's a reason they go all the way to 30 or 35 sometimes. That was discounted or not really mentioned. Neither was a 4-2 road record against bowl-eligible teams as opposed to a 1-3 record. No one brought up the data points of the simplicity of watching film. Fourth quarter, Alabama-South Florida, 21-16. Fourth quarter, five minutes left in the game. Miami and South Florida (was) a different score. Or a crossover game with the SEC, which we know what that result was.

"That and so many other things have come up, and hopefully, things will continue to be reviewed and considered and things can be then adjusted because it's exponentially harder to win a 10th game during the season than there is an eighth, a ninth. As we keep hearing, winning is important, so hopefully, that will be considered."

Athletic director Dan Radakovich took to social media Tuesday night to lodge a complaint about the committee's rankings, too.
"Really?" he wrote. "What put 'Bama over the top of Miami for the last spot in is that Miami went 1-2 in their last (three) games (by an average of 4.5 pts to a ranked Syracuse and GT team that just took UGA to 8OT). 'Bama went 2-1 (to a 5-7 Auburn, destroyed by OU, and beat FCS Mercer)."

Unfortunately for Miami, selection committee chair Warde Manuel said their spot is essentially written in stone.

"There's not another data point because they're not playing in the championship games," Manuel said, referring to Indiana and Tennessee, who are in the playoff but also are not playing in conference title games. "So we don't have anything else to add to the evaluation of those teams, so we can't move them above or below each other."

Ward, who won the ACC Player of the Year on Wednesday, told ACC Network on Wednesday that the selection committee simply made the wrong decision. Ward defended UM's defense, which has been a weak spot for the Hurricanes, citing their No. 24 national ranking in yards allowed per game. However, Miami also has allowed 23.9 points per game, which is 60th in the nation.

"At the end of the day, them boys who are in that committee - I really doubt they watch tape or not. We're a 10-2 team," Ward said. "I'm not saying Alabama's not a good team, which they are. But we can talk about the points. That's not even the biggest factor, I believe. We've got a top-25 defense, which was actually one of the best defenses in the country, so both sides of the ball, we're one of the best teams in the country. You talk about an offense who puts points on the board left and right, whether it's passing, whether it's (running). We've got two great running backs in the backfield in (Damien Martinez and Mark Fletcher Jr.). It's hard to leave that out. We're playing better defenses, in my opinion, than the SEC."

"It's just hard. I did what I could. The team, we control what we control. We controlled our own destiny for a lot of the season, and we didn't end up getting the job done. We know it was all in our hands, and it got taken away from us when we lost. So there's nothing we can do about it now but just sit there and be patient and try to get our opportunity to play for another game."
 12/05/2024 10:39 AM
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"His hurry up offense was the only innovation he brought to UCF and after that, he had nothing."

You must not have been paying attention. Malzhan followed Scott Frost and Josh Heupel as coaches. Two coaches that play at ultra fast speed. Malzhan slowed the offense down big time. His play calling was horrible. We have all the talent, it was the coaching that let UCF down.

 12/05/2024 10:47 AM
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Young guys? I know you are older than me, but I'm 60. Been following college football since 1970s. My dad played for Woodie Hayes at Ohio State. I'm no whipper snapper. Played football for Satellite High School, 80-82. Skipped my senior year as football got in the way of surfing. Played Ultimate for UCF 85-89 as a club sport and 1985 is when I started going to UCF football games. I've always had to pull for the underdog and hate how the Bamas of the world, Notre Dame as well, get treated different. I like sport's that have an even playing field and when everything favors Goliath i'm pulling for David.

College football will eventually be regulated to the NFL model and as a semi-pro farm league. Education is second and just play the sport and represent the school. Contracts and collective bargaining is coming just like the NFL eventually. Just going thru growing pains.

I could be wrong though. I usually am!

 12/05/2024 12:36 PM
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Got you by 10 years, young 'un! We agree 100% on ND. One of my happiest memories is how they had USC down by a bunch at the half. (I think it was something like 28-0.) But, USC ran the 2nd half kick back for a TD and were off to the races. If my ever failing memory is correct, it was the Anthony Davis/Sam Bam Cunningham team. AD would run it to the 1 and Sam Bam would fly over the line to the endzone. ND didn't score in the 2nd half and USC scored on every possession. (Again, all based on a faulty memory.) I went from the dumps to total ecstasy. (USC and the Gators were both my teams then.)
 12/05/2024 02:54 PM
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How'd USC do against ND this year? They are 58-32 over all against USC....
 12/05/2024 03:07 PM
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Football can do that to you!

I'm okay with the semi-pro route for College. Have a degree in college that awards a bachelors, masters, and Ph'd in the Sport of Football. Learn all the business aspects of it and coaching, athletic director, to general manager of the NFL degrees. Why not?

I went to UCF to learn how to operate computers. Why not football? Is there a degree for Football?

MBA in Sport's Management is probably close. At least teach the players to learn how to write a check, save money, pay taxes. Just like any other field of study.

Just thinking. I'm going to soak in these championship games this weekend. I'll be here to debate on the other side of them on the CFP. LBLarry just wants to sit in the shadows and snipe me when he can.

Hopefully Miami gets a good bowl match up.

I wish UCF had a bowl game, but i'm really looking forward to change which always is coming.

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