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Topic Title: Forecasting? Topic Summary: Created On: 06/10/2024 06:41 AM |
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The weather forecast is predicting rain day and night for four of the next five days. Is there a mysterious low forming that remains translucent untill it attacks or has weather prediction gone bananas?
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I've seen those forecasts.
NHC 'no gots' anything. I just went and found a TV weather forecast on Youtube from Saturday: ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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Rainy season starts this week. I just got some rain this early afternoon.
from NWS Melbourne: Issued at 536 AM EDT Mon Jun 10 2024 Today-Tonight...One last day of abnormally hot weather, then the streak finally comes to an end as the mid-upper level ridge responsible is shunted to the southeast by broad troughing over the CONUS digging down to the Atlantic seaboard. An attendant surface front associated with the trough stalls near or just north of North Florida, while the Atlantic high retreats south and seaward a bit, backing low-level flow southwesterly, and lifting copious (and much needed) tropical moisture to Florida. Increasing cloud cover brings temperatures down a notch from previous days, but still well above normal in the M-U90s inland and L-M90s along the coastal corridor. A couple high temperature records could be broken again today, with Leesburg and Vero Beach the most likely candidates. Heat index values also come down a notch, but remain just below Heat Advisory criteria at 100-107, highest from Osceola and southern Brevard south. Winds WSW-SW 5-10 mph pick up to 10-15 mph and a bit gusty in the afternoon , especially along the coast. As for rain chances, we`ll start the day with a fairly sharp PWAT gradient across ECFL from around 1.8-1.9" in Martin County to 1.2-1.3" in northern Lake and Volusia counties, which are forecast to increase to 1.7"-2.1" (between the climatological 75th percentile and daily maximum) by the evening. This will support increasing rain chances through the day, starting at 20 pct across the southern counties by late morning, 30-50 pct across most of ECFL by the afternoon, and topping out at 60-70 pct from Orlando to Titusville south. CAMs have a bit of variation in timing, for example the HRRR getting things going mainly in the afternoon, but overall coverage is in pretty good agreement. While 500mb temperatures are a somewhat unimpressive at -6C to -4C, the additional instability provided by the increasing moisture looks to push MUCAPE values over 2,500 J/kg in the afternoon, and those hot conditions will cause low-level lapse rates to exceed 7-8 C/km, resulting in a favorable environment for clusters of pulse thunderstorms after 2 PM. Dry mid-levels could enhance downdrafts, and indeed soundings show DCAPE values 900-1,000 J/kg, leading to gusty thunderstorm winds to 50 mph, and a locally severe/damaging gust to 60 mph can`t be ruled out. Other storm hazards will be occasional to frequent lightning, and torrential downpours. Adequate low-mid level flow should keep storms on the move, but repeated rounds could result in locally high rainfall amounts of 2-3", with a upper limit of 4" not out of the question. Additional rounds of showers and storms are expected through the night, and while they won`t pack the same punch as those this afternoon as we lose instability from daytime heating, we`ll continue to see those rainfall totals increase. Tuesday-Friday...Fairly straight forward forecast at this point. Southwesterly flow around the Atlantic high transports juicy tropical moisture across Florida, which combined with a broadening shortwave trough becoming quasi-stationary over the GOMEX and Florida, will result in high rain chances and an increasing potential for localized flooding through the week. To paraphrase WFO MLB wisdom, weather in Florida is often the mean of two extremes, and as we look at the potential of going from drought to flooding, this certainly holds true. We`ll see multiple rounds of showers and lightning storms through the period with daily rain chances 80-90 pct. The big question will be where we see those repeated rounds of heavy showers and storms, and how much rainfall accumulates. A fairly common theme across the various guidance is 24-hour rainfall amounts of 1-3 inches, with locally higher amounts up to 4" possible, and a total QPF through Friday night of 5-8" down south and 2-4" to the north. Based on these numbers and the cumulative effect over several days, the Weather Prediction Center has issued a Marginal Risk for excessive rainfall across all of ECFL through the period, and a Slight Risk starting across the south Tuesday that shifts further north each day, reaching Orlando to Titusville by Friday. Model soundings show mostly that long-skinny profile associated with high rainfall events, but CAPE values still manage to reach 1,000-1,500 J/kg in the afternoons, so storms capable of gusty winds and at least occasional cloud to ground lightning will be possible. Almost as good news as the rain will be temperatures, which are forecast to barely make it to 90 in northern Lake and Volusia counties Tuesday and Wednesday, but otherwise and elsewhere only make it to the M-U80s thanks to the cloud cover and rain. While not a cold snap by any means, they will be at or below normal, which is at least something. Saturday-Sunday...Guidance has further diverged and further decreased forecast confidence going into the weekend. GFS develops a surface cyclone in the Gulf of Mexico, while the ECM develops little more than a wave. This results in a much drier solution from the GFS while the ECM keeps some moisture across the area and continues rain chances. Official forecast reflects a compromise blend between the two, keeping relatively high rain chances and near to below normal temperatures through the weekend, but changes are likely as we drawn nearer. |
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It looks like we are going to get soaked from the beginnings of a rotating storm in the Atlantic. I thought four days and night of rain for no good reason was a bit unusual, even in June.
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Yeah for rainy season starting! All my rain buckets are full and now I can stop filling my swimming pool so much. Plants of course LOVE IT.
Cooler air temps as well. That was some Spring drought we went thru. We will be complaining about too much rain soon enough! Hope we get some surf out of this system. |
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Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL 800 AM EDT Tue Jun 11 2024 For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico: 1. Eastern Gulf of Mexico and Offshore Southeast U.S.: A trough of low pressure over the eastern Gulf of Mexico is producing a large area of disorganized showers and thunderstorms. This system is expected to move northeastward across Florida during the next day or so and offshore of the U.S. Southeast coast later this week. Environmental conditions are expected to be generally unfavorable, although some slow development is possible when the system is offshore of the U.S. Southeast coast. Regardless of development, heavy rainfall is expected across portions of Florida during the next few days. For more information, see products issued by the Weather Prediction Center and local National Weather Service Forecast Offices. * Formation chance through 48 hours...low...near 0 percent. * Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent. Weather Prediction Center products can be found at www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov and National Weather Service forecast information can be found at www.weather.gov Forecaster Cangialosi/Kelly |
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A quick change from an 80% to 40% chance of rain.
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the southern end of the state is still getting hammered with rain today
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