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 11/02/2020 08:17 AM
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SurferMic

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Our County Commissioners want to make zoning changes that would allow DAILY Vacation Rentals in South Melbourne Beach, the South Beaches and throughout unincorporated Brevard County. If you don't want DAILY Vacation Rentals in your neighborhood or next to your property ?? contact all 5 Commissioners and take this survey! Feedback collected in this survey will be aggregated and sent as a group to our Commissioners: Link to sign petition against Air BNB type rentals Please sign as Commissioner Tobia is trying to change the zoning laws and the public is not informed on what is happening!...Help save our barrier island..thank you FB page: Save our beaches No daily Rentals
 11/02/2020 08:24 AM
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SurferMic

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 11/02/2020 08:48 AM
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garcia

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John Tobia does not care what we think. He is an ideologue with an agenda. And, if you look at the Comm district map, you will see that not one of the Commissioners has a majority-beachside district. By far, the largest segment of each district is mainland and Tobia's is Palm Bay. The only solution is to change the Commissioners. Appeals do not work. We tried that with beach reopenings, etc this past spring. The beachside communities UNANIMOUSLy opposed their early reopening and yet, the Commissioners reopened them. We also UNANIMOUSLY opposed the reorganization of the EOC, and lost that one too. Perhaps this would be better posted in the NSR section, but, your vote counts and having the same commissioners will mean a continuation of their policies which work against the beachside communities.
 11/02/2020 09:03 AM
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SurferMic

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(making it easy/ cut and paste and email John.Tobia@brevardfl.gov)..."I am strongly against changing the existing zoning laws for short term rentals. This change should not be allowed as we have numerous issues with short term rentals and the renters. Problems include: Police calls every weekend, parking overflowing onto streets, 20+ guests in one house at a time. They trash our neighborhoods and beaches and do not care about offending the properties around them. There are numerous police reports on file from battery to noise ordinances and felonies that occur at these Vacation Rentals. If the law is changed, every commissioner will be voted out by unhappy residents who do not want these problems in their neighborhood. The zoning should remain unchanged. Thank you, A concerned VOTER"

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dingpatch

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Bend over, , , , , , , it only hurts for a few seconds, then it's smooth sailing, , , , ,!!!
 11/02/2020 09:51 AM
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SurferMic

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Send the above letter to all 5....District 1 Commissioner Rita Pritchett (Vice Chair) Rita.Pritchett@brevardfl.org .... (321) 607-6901.............. District 2 Commissioner Bryan Lober (Chair) Bryan.Lober@brevardfl.org ... (321) 454-6601.............. District 3 Commissioner John Tobia John.Tobia@brevardfl.org .... (321) 633-2075............... District 4 Commissioner Curt Smith curt.Smith@brevardfl.org .... (321) 633-2044................. District 5 Commissioner Kristine Isnardi Kristine.Isnardi@Brevardfl.org... (321) 253-6611..............The meeting to discuss this is Nov 23 3 PM in Viera Building C..Thanksgiving week at 3PM? How convenient to hold a 3PM meeting Monday the week of Thanksgiving when most are working or traveling for Thanksgiving.

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 11/02/2020 10:30 AM
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SurferMic

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PM response: "Hi Surfermic, The meeting that you are referring to is the Local Planning Agency Board. They make recommendations to the BOCC but are not the final say. This item won't come back before the BOCC until December (not sure of the exact date yet). You are definitely not too late and you can definitely email all the commissioners with your opinion on the matter. I know our office (District Five Commissioner Kristine Isnardi) is open to all the feedback on this matter. I know situations like the one we are hearing about here in this post only strengthens the Commissioner's concerns about this item.".........So it's not too late and it appears Kristine Isnard is listening..if anything please email at least Kristine Isnard at D5.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, if you can please send the same email to D1.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, D2.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, D3.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, D4.commissioner@brevardfl.gov I know it's a pain but please help!

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Greensleeves

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Great job surfer Mic!

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 11/02/2020 01:14 PM
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SurferMic

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^^^ thanks..My only political post, John Tobia has said he will vote to change the zoning laws and allow Air BNB's into our neighborhoods, Sanjay Patel has said he will not sell out our neighborhoods to Airbnb, investors and corporate vacation companies....We need to keep Short Term Rentals out of the South Beaches and Un-incorporated Brevard. We live in a residential neighborhood not a hotel district!...Mods if ya need to move this to NSR it's cool

Edited: 11/02/2020 at 01:26 PM by SurferMic
 11/02/2020 05:19 PM
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Plan B

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Good luck guys.... While I dont live in Brevard, I'll give my local take. At first I looked at it as a way for the "common man" to potentially add a revenue stream. It seemed that way at first. ( a few friends have paid off mortgages doing this)..... while I don't see the party thing as much of a problem (actually longterm rentals to college kids ... but I'm not one to cast stones ). The bigger longterm problem IMO, is the dissolution of the local community... St. Augustine was still a cool affordable beachside community. While at first, the rebound of the real estate market seemed very welcome, the reality is that it's artificially inflated... communities are now becoming commercial properties, which in turn, the vibe is slowly changing as younger people are forced off the island due to $$, and general availability of longterm rental properties.
 11/03/2020 05:39 AM
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TATTOO74

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Did you see the article about the AirBnB I believe it's in Indialantic or Sat Bch where it is a five bedroom house that sleeps ten people and is rented out to max capacity to out of towner/partiers that you have described. This house is next door to a terminally ill elderly lady and the owner of the Air BnB won't do a thing about the partying or the trash. I feel for the lady and hope it gets resolved somehow.
 11/03/2020 05:44 AM
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SurferMic

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^^ The house you describe is in Indialantic (county)

Edited: 12/10/2020 at 07:46 AM by SurferMic
 11/03/2020 08:58 AM
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Plan B

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Originally posted by: SurferMic The vibe is changing, 1/2 of all rentals seem to be Air BNBs causing a shortage of long term rentals. The few long term rentals are very high rent (low supply/big demand). As a Landlord this is great, I have less competion for my properties and I can demand highest rent ever BUT we are losing our "community".
Yep, also the case here
 11/03/2020 09:03 AM
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426Blue

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I go back and forth on the airbnb in the beachside residential neighborhoods, given that I live in one of the unincorporated areas where it's currently prohibited. I think it should be allowed throughout the County or prohibited throughout the County. On the one hand, I agree with the points made on some of the negatives, which can easily be controlled by responsible owners, accountability, and government oversight. On the other hand, it kills me that houses 200' away from me are legally allowed to do vacation rentals, and even houses in my neighborhood are permitted to airbnb, because no one has complained to the County about them - probably because there has been no reason to complain. Brevard County code enforcement is a certified joke, only responding to non-anonymous complaints, forcing neighbors against neighbors when a code enforcement issue needs to be addressed, creating huge inequities amount residents. I have loads of friends that responsibly administer vacation rentals, and they say their clientele is better and often more respectful than what they get for long term rentals. Generally, those are the owners that also live onsite, or live very close by, allowing them to closely monitor the situation, given that they want the neighborhood to be filled with good people as well. There is nothing worse for a neighborhood than a dirt bag long term tenant situation. At least a dud short termer is gone quickly. I think the fair answer is that it should be allowed (as opposed to this inequitable patchwork of regulations), under a strict and highly regulated permitting system for owners wishing to go that route, with real and painful consequences for owners that rent to problematic renters. A laser focused compliance program could easily be self-funded though annual permitting fees paid by owners engaging in short term rentals. The short term rental successes far outnumber the disasters, which of course get all the press.
 11/04/2020 04:47 AM
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Cole

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There is an Air BNB on my street in Cocoa Beach and I see different people every few days. The landlord must have set a low number, because we've never had an issue with it being the loud party house. My main issue is with the safety of the kids on the street of which we have plenty, somewhere between 12 and 18 - they are pretty hard to count. The people who come in don't know there are children around every corner, so they will speed past the homes while driving in vacation mode; a potential disaster in the making.

I hear there is one out on Country Club - Cocoa Beaches high-end section - and it's reported to be a real nightmare. Imagine sitting in your million dollar retirement home and looking out the window at daily beer pong tournaments and the thump of rap or the twang of country at midnight. Sure, you can tell them to shut it down, but tomorrow brings a new day and a new set of beer pong contestants. No thanks.
 11/10/2020 09:01 AM
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waterlizard25

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There is no stopping this. Letters, petitions neighbors complaining, you can try anything and everything it will not matter in the long run. Just like our infrastructures and water ways that no one gives a shit about. Growth, money and greed will not stop in Brevard County. Shoot isn't that what they want... A mass amount of tourists to flock here, spend their money just to fall in love with how shitty it has become and never leave..
 11/11/2020 07:03 AM
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Cole

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We just elected the guy that's making the big push for this to become the norm.

Nothing like voting against your self interests.

 11/11/2020 10:06 AM
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Cole

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Make that reelected.
 11/11/2020 10:15 AM
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SurferMic

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There have been 3 Air BNB's that were successfully shutdown. Your opinion of this DOES MATTER to the Commissioners. A very simple email (cut and paste) "I do not support changing the zoning laws in un-incorporated Brevard County and the South Beaches to allow short term rentals. The existing zoning laws should remain in place. signed, A Concerned Voter" Send 1 email to ALL 5 Commissioners email addresses: D1.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, D2.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, D3.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, D4.commissioner@brevardfl.gov, D5.commissioner@brevardfl.gov.....There is a MEETING NOV 23rd so this needs to be done soon..Very big thanks to ANYONE who can do this simple task and keep our "Town" vibe as it is....Tobia is only 1 of 5 that is a Def YES...We need numerous emails to help shape the vote of the other 4 Commissioners.

Edited: 11/11/2020 at 10:30 AM by SurferMic
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TATTOO74

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Originally posted by: SurferMic

^^ The house you describe is in Indialantic (county), I know the owner very well and yes his Mom is suffering...Sucks!!!...The vibe is changing, 1/2 of all rentals seem to be Air BNBs causing a shortage of long term rentals. The few long term rentals are very high rent (low supply/big demand). As a Landlord this is great, I have less competion for my properties and I can demand highest rent ever BUT we are losing our "community". John Tibia is a Palm Bay Commissioner, so why does he care so much about expanding Air BNB in MelBeach South? Density increases, more Air BNBs, more development of the South Beaches....WHY??? His end game is to build a bridge across Palm Bay (Malabar road) to Coconut Point..Remember his district is Palm Bay...the end game is opening up MelBeach - and the South (Inlet) to Palm Bay via a new bridge that will be built due to the need for Hurricane evac routes.


This house is at the Corner of A1A & Poinsetta correct? I know some friends off Diane Circle that can't stand that place. My Dad lives in that neighborhood as well. Maybe a late night drunken TP session or something!
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