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Doing some reading about Gobekli Tepe that led me to Graham Hancock. Lots and lots of archeologists hate him. Very interesting. So anyway, , , , in regard to the "Flood".

Nope, it did not rain for "40 days and 40 nights". The Noah fable was a late comer to the list of flood "myths". Go to the Sumerian tale of "Gilgamesh" to get a more original version, Noah is a copy of Gilgamesh. There are over 2000 flood stories world wide. All of the newly discovered under-water ancient ruins that were previously considered to be only possible through geologic reasons are know being researched as "real". They themselves were already ancient 12,500 years ago when they were covered by the ocean.

During the peak of the last Ice Age, sea level was around 400 to 450 feet lower than it is today. The ocean gradually rose over many thousands of years after the ice began to melt (about 10,000 years). BUT, geologists now know that during that time there were 3 or 4 events when the seas rose around 30 feet overnight. In one, we know that there was a huge melt lake where Hudson Bay is now and that lake broke its bounds and rushed down into the sea. Yep, over night there was a 30 foot rise all around the world. Where would our current civilization be today after a "instant" and permanent rise of 30 feet? So anyway, , , ,

Start taking a look at the ancient maps we have. They are all copies of much, much, older maps. When these "copies" first came to light, everybody said that they we just not right because "that coast line does not look like that", "there is no island there", and how could anybody back then know anything about such-and-such place. The one, more famous, map shows Antartica and it is very acurate if you account for a much lower sea level. "We" did not even officially "discover" Antarctica until the 1700-1800s! The one map shows Japan but, as above, it does not even look like Japan, and there is no island to the West between China and Japan. Well, yes there "was" an island there, over 12,500 years ago. Take a look at the actual "geology" of the area and, sure enough, when you account for the sea's rise there would have been an island right where the map says. Most of the ancient maps are very accurate, for the world as it was over 12,500 years ago!

Lots more to read and learn.



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Much of the bible was plagiarized from older mythologies. Of course that is true of many of the other modern day mythologies besides christianity too. This might be crossing into NSR territory though, lol.
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Riddle,

Yes, I've gotten some pretty negative "feedback" from certain individuals when I tell them that the "Bible" (Christian and Jewish), and etc., are copied from much old texts!

NO! That is the work of the Devil, , , ,! Ya, right. One told me that I had been listening to "Demons"!

Many years ago Mrs. Dingpatch said something "off the wall" to me and I did not have a clue why she said it: she hoped that there really was a God, because there can't be "just them" (those who are not from this Earth). She knew the truth; some years later she told me that she had been in "that room" at Wright Pat AFB where the bodies of "them" are kept! Very upsetting to hear that from her (she worked for the Generals in the MIB at Langley).

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I saw a breakdown that said the supposed flood in the OT was around 3,000 BC if I recall correctly. Egypt was going strong then and they show no records of a flood.
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There are a lot of people who "will not" believe that the actual "flood" was in, let's say, 10,500 BC, or even well before that.
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In his 2007 Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech, Al Gore claimed that there is "a 75 percent chance the entire polar ice cap will melt in summer within the next five to seven years."

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There are glaciers in Antarctica that could suddenly slide off of the land and cause an instant rise of 3 to 6 feet+.

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As the great ice sheets collapsed, sea level rose, at times, very fast. There's a huge technical literature. You can be sure that the Gulf coast of Florida disappeared fast. For northwest Europe, look up Doggerland.
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What do the wind and water patterns in ancient rocks tell you? Duh.

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Stirfry, , , ,? What are trying to say?
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There's water under the ocean. Oceans rise, and fall - it's nothing new and it's not over. Plan accordingly.

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Originally posted by: dingpatch

There are a lot of people who "will not" believe that the actual "flood" was in, let's say, 10,500 BC, or even well before that.


Wouldn't that predate "modern" civilization by about 4,000 years?

Sumer was the first real deal and it was around 5,000 BC.

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Here's a good Graham Hancock video, kinda long but the "meat" of the arguement is in the first 30 minutes, , , , most archeological orthodoxy is based on a method that would say that there was "nothing" before Sumer and that otherwise, "something" had to exist to "lead" to something else. But, yes there was a civilization before Sumer but, the Flood in effect wiped them out and, because they were primarily coastal dwellers, just like us, all of their "cities" are now under 100s of feet of ocean water. As Graham asks; How would our civilization survive after a couple instantaneous, and permanent, rises of 30+ feet?



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Hmmmmm, , , , , it all started with a comet 12800 years ago that broke up and hit the earth. All of the geology points to it.
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It's never "instantaneous" . & one day, you too will be ancient, if you are not already

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Stiry,

Yes, pretty much instantaneous, as in "overnight". Really. Do your reading.
 10/03/2020 04:28 AM
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I've done my readin, Bub. The ancient rocks tell the story. The world is always ending. Geologically - your "instantaneous" has never happened. We are a blip on the time scale.

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 10/03/2020 04:47 AM
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Stirfry,

Again, yes, "instantaneous". You need to expand your horizons and catch up with recent research and discoveries. The Ice Age did not calmly "melt away" over a period of 10,000 years.

Here's a good starting point for you: http://www.canada.com/technolo...ons/3954124/story.html

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The point about "civilization" being much, much, older than previously thought is what gets a lot of people upset. "No, it started here, only XX long ago". Nope, much, much, earlier.

Not too long ago we would have been told that the "Clovis" people were, more-or-less, the "first" group to come across the Siberian "land bridge". We are now confirming new evidence that man was in the Americas 10s of thousands of years earlier.

Genetic testing shows that a lot of the tribes in the Amazon have genes that came from the Australian Aborigines and that general area of the Pacific, not from Asia over the land bridge. They could have only gotten there by travel over the sea!
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ok, 10s of thousands for years. whatever. doesn't matter. geologically - that's a blip. ask the dinosaurs.

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