02/21/2021 05:55 PM
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jdbman
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"An inlet produces tidal flow for up to 7 miles away from what I have read. The dilution from clean ocean water should help reduce the algae blooms to some degree which is needed so the little remaining sea grass can get light during it's growing season. Some argue the salinity of ocean water would cause issues with sea grass growth as well. At this point there isn't much to lose. An inlet won't address the source of the issue, but it would buy us time to address those issues. The needed changes will take years if not decades and cooperation from multiple counties and cities. With the population growth and complexity of pollution sources I believe we are already past the point of being able fix the issue. Hope I'm wrong." foamball
What he said.....
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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.
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02/21/2021 07:14 PM
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tom
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Buy us time? For what? How about we take all those millions needed to buy property and construct and maintain an Inlet, and dump it into upgrading
wastewater and stormwater treatment instead? I guarantee you could have that work contracted and complete before permits are even granted for an Inlet. Sheesh.
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02/22/2021 04:55 AM
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Cole
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As a surfer/fisherman, I love the idea of on inlet. As a realist, I say let's come up with a plan that will work at cleaning the lagoon and Tom's ideas have the most merit.
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02/24/2021 09:25 AM
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sfds
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Originally posted by: Cole
As a surfer/fisherman, I love the idea of on inlet.
Ditto. (To anyone that thinks this is a good idea) But can you imagine how bad the erosion will be south of this new inlet. Our sandbars/beaches are already ruined enough from all the sand dumping. Take a boat ride out Sebastian inlet and run the beach down to Wabasso and ask yourself if you want Satellite - Mel beach to look like that (because it will)....the beach is horrendous in that part of IR county. PASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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02/24/2021 04:40 PM
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ww
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When I was a kid on Old Tampa Bay adjacent to a new finger-canal development, the local waters were attractive, but the bay was seriously polluted. The 1960 hurricane might have done a bit of temporary good by sucking a great deal of water out of the bay (it went 40 miles inland rather than hit Clearwater, just like Charley in 2004).
Restoration of seagrass beds and water quality has set a good example for the state.
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02/23/2021 10:25 AM
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tom
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Good public service announcement pandaman. Also, our local National Esturary Program meetings are conducted in Florida Sunshine and welcome citizen voices. Onelagoon.org
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02/23/2021 12:18 PM
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MyNameIsRobertPaulson
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in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
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02/23/2021 01:02 PM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them.
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Edited: 02/23/2021 at 01:02 PM by Cole
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02/25/2021 09:27 AM
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MyNameIsRobertPaulson
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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them. [IMG][/IMG]
so true... like the desoto sewage leaks.. or when they dump all the raw sewage into the river... paying those fine every few years are way cheaper than actually fixing our infrastructure problems... "cost of doing business"..
Edited: 02/25/2021 at 09:29 AM by MyNameIsRobertPaulson
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02/26/2021 08:50 AM
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LaJune
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them. [IMG][/IMG]
so true... like the desoto sewage leaks.. or when they dump all the raw sewage into the river... paying those fine every few years are way cheaper than actually fixing our infrastructure problems... "cost of doing business"..
5th generation Duda here, I tried researching that on my own and couldn't find anything on that other than when Brevard got 240 acres from us through eminent domain for the waste water treatment facility and artificial wetlands. We tried to get some language in the "petition" to get limits on the level of pollutants Brevard was allowed to discharge in our canals (which go to Lake Winder and eventually St Johns river) but it wasn't allowed in the Brevard Count v. Duda Sons Inc case.
I'm curious what exactly the $30k fine is for as we consider ourselves stewards of the land and usually go far and above any legal or environmental regulations for any of our endeavors.
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02/26/2021 10:23 AM
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all3
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Are there any inlets that people don't like?
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02/26/2021 03:10 PM
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Cole
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Originally posted by: LaJune
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them. [IMG][/IMG]
so true... like the desoto sewage leaks.. or when they dump all the raw sewage into the river... paying those fine every few years are way cheaper than actually fixing our infrastructure problems... "cost of doing business"..
5th generation Duda here, I tried researching that on my own and couldn't find anything on that other than when Brevard got 240 acres from us through eminent domain for the waste water treatment facility and artificial wetlands. We tried to get some language in the "petition" to get limits on the level of pollutants Brevard was allowed to discharge in our canals (which go to Lake Winder and eventually St Johns river) but it wasn't allowed in the Brevard Count v. Duda Sons Inc case.
I'm curious what exactly the $30k fine is for as we consider ourselves stewards of the land and usually go far and above any legal or environmental regulations for any of our endeavors.
Digging ditches to drain the land.
I imagine that's where the 4-mile canal came from.
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Edited: 02/26/2021 at 03:25 PM by Cole
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