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 02/21/2021 07:14 PM
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tom

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Buy us time? For what? How about we take all those millions needed to buy property and construct and maintain an Inlet, and dump it into upgrading wastewater and stormwater treatment instead? I guarantee you could have that work contracted and complete before permits are even granted for an Inlet. Sheesh.

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 02/22/2021 04:55 AM
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Cole

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As a surfer/fisherman, I love the idea of on inlet. As a realist, I say let's come up with a plan that will work at cleaning the lagoon and Tom's ideas have the most merit.

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 02/22/2021 11:45 AM
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Originally posted by: SurfCaster

They don't sit at the northern end of a lagoon?



Good point, I recall when I lived over on the west coast in the 80's, all the way up into the west end of the Bay area (Vallejo), it was pretty icky.



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Edited: 02/22/2021 at 11:46 AM by wehorde
 02/22/2021 01:46 PM
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JOESTRUMMER

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Never say never.......no matter how polluted ,or how far gone ,it can be done :

Edited: 02/22/2021 at 10:22 PM by JOESTRUMMER
 02/23/2021 08:28 AM
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Please check out the brevard county save our lagoon page, and the citizen oversight comittee. This is where YOUR money is going, and if you think it is better spent elsewhere let them know!!! https://www.brevardfl.gov/SaveOurLagoon

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 02/23/2021 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by: wehorde Casual observation... RE - that pic I have often wondered why South Florida or West Florida do not look like this, even though they have much higher population densities.
Time travel back to Tampa Bay circa 1980. Or just look at the news reports from Biscayne Bay this past summer. They get nasty when they get too much waste in the water. Tampa Bay watershed is light years ahead of northern IRL for wastewater control. It was really bad over there and is a lot better now. Back in the 1980s we spent a little money converting some critical areas to sewer in Brevard and doing a little bit to require new development to deal with storm water rather than just sending it to tide. C54 is mostly closed these days, though there is some Fellsmere ag water that still needs to be re-diverted to the SJR. That bought us some time before the lagoon really shit the bed. But population pressure has overwhelmed a stagnant pollution control system. We need big upgrades.

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Edited: 02/23/2021 at 10:16 AM by scombrid
 02/23/2021 10:25 AM
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Good public service announcement pandaman. Also, our local National Esturary Program meetings are conducted in Florida Sunshine and welcome citizen voices. Onelagoon.org

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MyNameIsRobertPaulson

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in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
 02/23/2021 01:02 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson

in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS


Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them.

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Edited: 02/23/2021 at 01:02 PM by Cole
 02/24/2021 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Cole As a surfer/fisherman, I love the idea of on inlet.
Ditto. (To anyone that thinks this is a good idea) But can you imagine how bad the erosion will be south of this new inlet. Our sandbars/beaches are already ruined enough from all the sand dumping. Take a boat ride out Sebastian inlet and run the beach down to Wabasso and ask yourself if you want Satellite - Mel beach to look like that (because it will)....the beach is horrendous in that part of IR county. PASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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    When I was a kid on Old Tampa Bay adjacent to a new finger-canal development, the local waters were attractive, but the bay was seriously polluted. The 1960 hurricane might have done a bit of temporary good by sucking a great deal of water out of the bay (it went 40 miles inland rather than hit Clearwater, just like Charley in 2004).
    Restoration of seagrass beds and water quality has set a good example for the state.
 02/25/2021 09:27 AM
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MyNameIsRobertPaulson

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Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them. [IMG][/IMG]
so true... like the desoto sewage leaks.. or when they dump all the raw sewage into the river... paying those fine every few years are way cheaper than actually fixing our infrastructure problems... "cost of doing business"..

Edited: 02/25/2021 at 09:29 AM by MyNameIsRobertPaulson
 02/26/2021 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson
Originally posted by: Cole
Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS
Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them. [IMG][/IMG]
so true... like the desoto sewage leaks.. or when they dump all the raw sewage into the river... paying those fine every few years are way cheaper than actually fixing our infrastructure problems... "cost of doing business"..
5th generation Duda here, I tried researching that on my own and couldn't find anything on that other than when Brevard got 240 acres from us through eminent domain for the waste water treatment facility and artificial wetlands. We tried to get some language in the "petition" to get limits on the level of pollutants Brevard was allowed to discharge in our canals (which go to Lake Winder and eventually St Johns river) but it wasn't allowed in the Brevard Count v. Duda Sons Inc case. I'm curious what exactly the $30k fine is for as we consider ourselves stewards of the land and usually go far and above any legal or environmental regulations for any of our endeavors.

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 02/26/2021 10:23 AM
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Are there any inlets that people don't like?

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 02/26/2021 03:10 PM
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Cole

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Originally posted by: LaJune

Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson

Originally posted by: Cole

Originally posted by: MyNameIsRobertPaulson



in the words of phil collins.. TOO MANY PEOPLE MAKING TOO MANY PROBLEMS




Viera used to be wetlands. Hell, I can remember when Duda got tagged for digging drainage ditches. The $30 grand fine sure did a lot to dissuade them. [IMG][/IMG]


so true... like the desoto sewage leaks.. or when they dump all the raw sewage into the river... paying those fine every few years are way cheaper than actually fixing our infrastructure problems... "cost of doing business"..


5th generation Duda here, I tried researching that on my own and couldn't find anything on that other than when Brevard got 240 acres from us through eminent domain for the waste water treatment facility and artificial wetlands. We tried to get some language in the "petition" to get limits on the level of pollutants Brevard was allowed to discharge in our canals (which go to Lake Winder and eventually St Johns river) but it wasn't allowed in the Brevard Count v. Duda Sons Inc case.

I'm curious what exactly the $30k fine is for as we consider ourselves stewards of the land and usually go far and above any legal or environmental regulations for any of our endeavors.


Digging ditches to drain the land.

I imagine that's where the 4-mile canal came from.



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Edited: 02/26/2021 at 03:25 PM by Cole
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