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Topic Title: Rebirth of First Peak - Petition Started Topic Summary: Created On: 12/30/2020 04:31 AM |
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01/01/2021 09:12 AM
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Wow, how's this for interesting. In 1999 there was a 1-to-35 scale replica of First Peak constructed to study how the new jetty work would affect wave refraction. They predicted no major changes. Oops! https://www.researchgate.net/f...eft-and_fig7_228500304 Interesting timing. There looks to be a contest in the overlay image with a crowd of about ten. ------------------------- I was right. |
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01/01/2021 05:32 PM
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I think we'd all like to see the peak back in action, but I think you might be underestimating the size and scope of the project, and the bureaucracy. Here's the annual report of the inlet from 2019. Any proposed changes would probably take hundreds of thousands of dollars and years, just in the studies. But, since you've got so much energy for the idea, you should try getting in contact with any of these report writers. They could probably point you in the right direction. They're all at FIT. STATE OF THE INLET REPORT 2019: An Assessment of Inlet Morphologic Processes, Shoreline Changes, Sediment Budget, and Beach Fill Performance Thanks, will do. Great resource |
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01/01/2021 05:38 PM
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Here's the comparison. First image is from 1998. I've added a red outline of the current jetty crib structure for reference. The image then transitions to a Google Earth image which I believe is from January 2019. As you'll see, the additional platform that was added to the end was over the existing rock pile I had previously mentioned. [IMG][/IMG] Wow, didn't realize extension was that much of it. easy to see how it messed up things. Waves rebound way too early. Wonder how much it would cost to blast all that? Like to smitherenes so nothing to clean up except pull some rebar out afterwards. Edited: 01/01/2021 at 05:45 PM by TunnelVision |
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01/02/2021 08:08 PM
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Love the enthusiasm TV, but there will never be a WCT event at SI and that's for the best for a litany of reasons
------------------------- "Grip it and rip it" |
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01/04/2021 11:59 AM
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Talked to James at sitd. nice guy.
Kinda didn't think this would be likely ... Studies needed. Issues with sand changes, and sand in the river ... idk, I don't think I'm gonna be able to make it happen he didn't stop me from pushing forward, but didn't think a study would likely get approved. project halted for me. Edited: 01/04/2021 at 12:00 PM by TunnelVision |
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01/04/2021 04:45 PM
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It's all the sand re-nourishment projects not the jetty project that ruined 1st Peak. There was a study done about the bathy changes around Sebastian Inlet during the same time 1st Peak died. Sand left the 1st Peak zone and re-located to Monster Hole. Now Monster Hole pulls all of any strong swell away from 1st Peak. The new jetty wedged/broke fine for a couple years. It's not a wedge timing or wedge creation issue; it's a no swell or sandbar for it to focus on issue. Massive/catastrophic issue. If they don't do any beach re-nourishment for a long time it could come back though.
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01/05/2021 07:16 AM
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Hello!!!!
No, Monster Hole Does Not "pull" any swell from anywhere. ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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01/05/2021 07:38 AM
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01/06/2021 09:47 AM
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Here's the comparison. First image is from 1998. I've added a red outline of the current jetty crib structure for reference. The image then transitions to a Google Earth image which I believe is from January 2019. As you'll see, the additional platform that was added to the end was over the existing rock pile I had previously mentioned. [IMG][/IMG] Wow, didn't realize extension was that much of it. easy to see how it messed up things. Waves rebound way too early. Wonder how much it would cost to blast all that? Like to smitherenes so nothing to clean up except pull some rebar out afterwards. To be clear, the point of sharing that imagery/analysis was to show that the new platform was built over top of a rock pile that had already been in the water for 30 years. It demonstrates that the addition of this structure on top of that rock pile did not materially impacted swell coming into the First Peak zone. I guess that's water under the bridge at this point though as I see you've already discussed the idea with Dr. Gray. |
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01/06/2021 10:48 AM
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I thought the main issue was the "Cap" stopped sand transport by stopping the amount of water/sand that gets pushed through the structure and continues south? There used to be a "boom", "boom", "boom" sound you would hear as a set wave was approaching first peak from the tip of the old jetty (indicator that a wave was about to unload)...that sound is gone and it appears like sand is being trapped in the kiddie pool and out to 1st peak. If this is true you would have to dredge out first peak to the kiddie pool? (that will never happen)...I could be very wrong on all of the above
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01/06/2021 03:00 PM
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01/08/2021 02:44 PM
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It's gone, and never coming back. If you missed it, sorry, cause it was epic.
------------------------- "If I say it's safe to surf this beach, captain, then it's safe to surf this beach!" |
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01/15/2021 05:13 PM
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SPOT ON! I believe it's the new slope. Nothing for the wave to rebound/refract offf!
Edited: 01/15/2021 at 05:16 PM by Cloudsurfer |
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