thanks for the details! My most vivid memory is from the mid 90s in late fall. It was overhead and only myself and Bill Hartley were out. He was sitting 50ft off the tip of the jetty.. almost in the channel.. He was back-dooring the tube in front of the boulders and then into a couple few mega power snaps. I've never seen it break like that since. And I've never seen anyone surf that wave the way Hartley did that night! Some old schoolers told me it would happen occasionally.. and Hurricane Hugo in '89 broke that way.

Maybe a sharper edge on the jetty would help. Maybe overtime worm rock will fill in and help.
One reason I think the sand is the main culprit.. First peak still broke correctly during the extension and for a time afterwards.
If you go back and look a the mamma G (RIP) pics from early/mid 2000's... it was still a classic wedge.

TunnelVision, stoked on your enthusiasm but I think you're barking up the wrong tree. The additional platform that was added to the jetty during the rebuilding of the jetty's crib structure during the 2000 - 2002 project was built on top of an already exposed rock pile which was there since the previous structure was completed around 1970.

The Sebastian Inlet Tax District's website has a great gallery on their site (SITD.us) under the "History" section. You'll see a photo from 1970 showing the rock pile that I'm referencing and then another direct overhead shot from 1998 showing the same configuration just prior to the rebuild project. You can take that shot from 1998 and then lay a more recent shot from Google Earth over top of it with some transparency to see what I mean.

You underestimate what a group of people can accomplish

Sounds like you really don't want this. Too much of a fisherman to want this.

Yeah, for a time afterwards ... because the sand takes time to shift (due to new extension) it didn't occur overnight, but once it got messed up, it doesn't return. Return the jetty to prior dimensions, and the sand will be the way it was. But really, it's where the bounce happens, and will never happen with new jetty

Well, however the specific change happened, it did mess it up. I would have to see aerial photo comparison, but from what I remember, it's much longer now, and even if there were rocks there, there weren't all the extra cement pilings.

been stated before...raise right hand...repeat "The inlet is for navigational purposes, it does not matter to the tax district if the surfers' lost the wave next to the Jetty, they still show up and pay to enter regardless"...

Edited: 12/31/2020 at 04:42 AM by SurferMic

haha. it's true. they don't give a shit about surfers much, but ...

When the WSL comes to town, they do care about that.
It has quite an impact on local economy.
In order to make this move forward, gotta convince them it's in state's and county's best interest, which of course, in the end is just the people of the county and state, so could be restated as being in the people's best interest regardless of whether they surf or not. We need reasons for people to come here and visit.

It's also why I'm proposing 50% crowdfunded, and the govt pays rest whether it be state or county/counties. I think we can get most of that crowdfunding via the demolition party entry fee.

Edited: 12/31/2020 at 05:44 AM by TunnelVision

Thanks for the morning laugh, I really needed it!

Here's a Surfer Mag story from a few years ago, with a Q&A with the First Peak Project guy:

https://www.surfer.com/features/the-first-peak-project/

True, I love to fish the Inlet, butt I'm a south side dude. The tip of the north jetty is a cluster f@#k when the bite is on.

I said I was playing the Devil's advocate, so I'll continue: The WSL. They have never bothered with contests at the Inlet before, so why start now? Well, there was the Stubbies in the early 80's that had some big names, but unless you are taking about entry level/qualifying contests, there has been nothing. Not to mention that surf contests have never brought much of a crowd to Sebastian.



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Edited: 12/31/2020 at 06:35 AM by Cole

Instead of wasting time in a 2ndlight thread, you would be better off kayaking cinderblocks a bit offshore of your local break. Line up with a marker on the dune and drop them.

After your 80,000th cinderblock drop, you should have a nice artificial reef producing an Aframe on the right swell.

This will take less time than waiting for any changes at 1st Peak (or a decent skatepark to be built beachside)

remember, we are in Brevard County.. the place that thought it would be a good idea to put bowling pins in the middle of the road up and down A1A



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It would take convincing them, but I don't think too hard. The inlet is the perfect spot for a competition because it's so close to beach, and the waves are great aground september and october. So, just give the locals at Hossegor their wave back 1 out of every 3 years, and bring the comp to SI. With so many surfers in Florida, I think it's actually quite an easy sell to get them back here. We're their audience.

I think it would be quite easy to get 2000 people to donate 500 and get passes to "blast it back" party, and their names would be forever inscribed on the rocks

Edited: 12/31/2020 at 02:08 PM by TunnelVision

So true.

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Waiting for waves is ok......most people spend their lives waiting for nothing.

LOL no kidding.. TunnelV, be careful getting the county folks involved.. we may end up with bowling pins sticking out of the inside at the inlet

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It would be easier to get Kelly just to build a pool with a first peak type wave. Many LARGER problems in our county to put effort into than this!!!

I think we'd all like to see the peak back in action, but I think you might be underestimating the size and scope of the project, and the bureaucracy.

Here's the annual report of the inlet from 2019. Any proposed changes would probably take hundreds of thousands of dollars and years, just in the studies. But, since you've got so much energy for the idea, you should try getting in contact with any of these report writers. They could probably point you in the right direction. They're all at FIT.

STATE OF THE INLET REPORT 2019: An Assessment of Inlet Morphologic Processes,
Shoreline Changes, Sediment Budget, and Beach Fill Performance

Here's the comparison. First image is from 1998. I've added a red outline of the current jetty crib structure for reference. The image then transitions to a Google Earth image which I believe is from January 2019. As you'll see, the additional platform that was added to the end was over the existing rock pile I had previously mentioned.

Wow, how's this for interesting. In 1999 there was a 1-to-35 scale replica of First Peak constructed to study how the new jetty work would affect wave refraction. They predicted no major changes. Oops!

https://www.researchgate.net/f...eft-and_fig7_228500304

As far as getting surfers to the inlet? It is as, if not more, crowded than ever.

http://2ndlight.com/fusetalk/f...d=197462&enterthread=y

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