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Topic Title: Humans are not to blame for warming, , , , , , , Topic Summary: Created On: 01/27/2023 09:15 AM |
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01/27/2023 09:15 AM
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But yes, we do contribute to climate and environmental change but, , , , , even if we were not here, the climate would still get warm and then cold, rinse, repeat, , , , ,
------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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01/27/2023 09:23 AM
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Well that's exactly what it did before there were humans. So, I'd have to say that is correct. So the question is, do these other forces that have warmed and cooled the planet multiple times overwhelm any contribution that we make. Don't think that has been determined.
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01/27/2023 10:04 AM
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But, then again, the Sun will very soon have a routine Nova and, , , , , that's it folks ! We can only pray that we have cleaned the Earth up, , , , , , , before its surface gets instantly converted to atom ash.
Or, , , , , the Pole Shift, , , , ,! Take your pick ------------------------- Dora Hates You Edited: 01/27/2023 at 10:07 AM by dingpatch |
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01/27/2023 10:59 AM
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Giant Comet '24
------------------------- “It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti |
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01/27/2023 11:12 AM
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End times. It's the new conservatism.
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01/27/2023 12:02 PM
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You guys are right- all those cars, trucks planes and machinery aren't emitting anything. You should prove it to us by sitting in your closed garage while your car runs for an hour ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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01/27/2023 01:30 PM
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You know what I never click on anything titled "they are lying to us"
almost always bullshit. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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01/27/2023 01:31 PM
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"So the question is, do these other forces that have warmed and cooled the planet multiple times overwhelm any contribution that we make. Don't think that has been determined."
Yes it has. Understanding the differences in the relative time scales involved is key. "they" are not These folks. It's all there. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill Edited: 01/27/2023 at 01:33 PM by WG |
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01/27/2023 05:17 PM
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It's all there. Liar! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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01/30/2023 06:01 AM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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01/30/2023 06:15 AM
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We don't even know what those other forces are.
Increased volcanic activity. Increased solar activity. A meteor in the case of the dinosaurs. What, do you think it's magic? ------------------------- I was right. |
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01/30/2023 07:09 AM
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We don't even know what those other forces are. Increased volcanic activity. Increased solar activity. A meteor in the case of the dinosaurs. What, do you think it's magic? There are numerous....but we can't calculate the effect on the atmosphere. For example there are only maybe 20% of all volcanoes that YOU can calculate above water. The other 80% are underwater...and you can't determine how much CO2 they put out. So your wild ass guess if what makes 'climate change' a total 100% LOAD OF BULLSHIT! This is only ONE variable that you cant measure or control. There are MANY! MORON! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 01/30/2023 at 07:10 AM by Fish Killer |
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01/30/2023 07:17 AM
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Dear bonehead, I am referring to global cooling due to increased sulfur dioxide, and in great times of activity, increased ash.
But then there is this. http://skepticalscience.com/vo...rming-intermediate.htm ------------------------- I was right. |
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01/30/2023 07:21 AM
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Dear bonehead, I am referring to global cooling due to increased sulfur dioxide, and in great times of activity, increased ash. But then there is this. http://skepticalscience.com/vo...rming-intermediate.htm Yo...shit for brains....i don't care what you are referring to...this is all about your FAKE climate change...... FAKE! Do you understand what that term means? F A K E! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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01/30/2023 07:24 AM
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I understand you are an idiot. See, here is the thing, you post some random clown on youtube, then claim it is real. I post a peer reviewed study from a reputable source, and you claim it is fake.
It's pretty obvious that I am not the problem here. lol ------------------------- I was right. |
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01/30/2023 07:49 AM
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01/30/2023 08:26 AM
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I understand you are an idiot. See, here is the thing, you post some random clown on youtube, then claim it is real. I post a peer reviewed study from a reputable source, and you claim it is fake. It's pretty obvious that I am not the problem here. lol Well in fact you ARE the problem. You post proved FAKE CRAP! Here is the 'clown' you speak of...and he has more credentials on 'climate science' that literally ANY ONE you can concoct.... IDIOT! "Academia Ian Plimer started as a tutor and senior tutor in earth sciences at Macquarie University from 1968 to 1973.[15][16] After finishing his PhD, he became a lecturer in geology at the W.S. and L.B. Robinson University College of the University of New South Wales at Broken Hill from 1974 to 1979.[15][16] Part of his work focused on the Broken Hill ore deposit - a large zinc-lead-silver mine in Australia.[17][18][non-primary source needed] Plimer then went to work for North Broken Hill Ltd. between 1979 and 1982, becoming chief research geologist.[12][15][16] Due to his publication of a number of academic papers, he was offered a job as senior lecturer in economic geology at the University of New England in 1982.[12][15][16] After two years, he left to become a professor and head of geology at the University of Newcastle through 1991.[10][12] Plimer later served as professor and head of geology of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne from 1991 to 2005.[10][12] He was conferred as professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne in 2005,[9] and was a professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.[1][10][19] Plimer is a fellow (member) of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, the Australian Institute of Geoscientists and the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy;[13] an honorary fellow of the Geological Society of London;[13][20] a member of the Geological Society of Australia, the Royal Society of South Australia, and the Royal Society of New South Wales.[13] He co-edited the 2005 edition of Encyclopedia of Geology.[21] Mining companies Plimer is the former non-executive director of CBH Resources Limited from 1998 to 2010, former non-executive director of Angel Mining plc from 2003 to 2005, former director of Kimberley Metals Limited from 2008 to 2009, former director of KBL Mining Limited from 2008 to 2009 and former director of Ormil Energy Limited from 2010 to 2011.[22][10][23] He is currently the non-executive deputy chairman of KEFI Minerals since 2006,[24] independent non-executive director of Ivanhoe Australia Limited since 2007,[25] chairman of TNT Mines Limited since 2010,[19][26] non-executive director of Niuminco Group Limited (formerly DSF International Holdings Limited) since 2011,[27][28] and non-executive director of Silver City Minerals Limited since 2011.[10][23][29][30][31] Plimer was appointed director of Roy Hill Holdings and Queensland Coal Investments in 2012.[32]" ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 01/30/2023 at 08:29 AM by Fish Killer |
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01/27/2023 01:32 PM
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That's like saying everyone dies to justify killing someone.
------------------------- "One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky. |
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01/27/2023 06:13 PM
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01/28/2023 09:39 AM
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Like real fish said, where does it all go? Billions of people emitting tons of gasses in a closed system. From inside out anyway.
Does all this crap do nothing? ------------------------- I was right. |
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01/28/2023 10:38 AM
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Like fake fish said, where does it all go? Billions of people emitting tons of gasses in a closed system. From inside out anyway. Does all this crap do nothing? But yes, we do contribute to climate and environmental change but, , , , , even if we were not here, the climate would still get warm and then cold, rinse, repeat, , , , , ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 01/28/2023 at 10:39 AM by Fish Killer |
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01/27/2023 05:19 PM
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------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill Edited: 01/27/2023 at 05:20 PM by WG |
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01/28/2023 12:03 AM
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Humans are not to blame for global warming......
True story! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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01/28/2023 05:24 PM
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How many PHD's are participating in this thread? LOFL That's a bare minimum to be taken seriously ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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01/28/2023 07:05 PM
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Time scales fishboy
------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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01/28/2023 07:24 PM
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Mom.. MOM MOM!!!! I DON'T CARE IF LUNCH IS READY.. I'M TRYING TO FILM A YOUTUBE VIDEO HERE!! GEESH I gotta get a lock for the basement door... ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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01/28/2023 08:02 PM
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Wait, you're saying not all of these guys have their Ph.D.? Now this is starting to make sense...
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01/29/2023 04:42 AM
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Ya, the time scale thingy is two-edged, , , , ,
On the bigger edge is the fact that we think we know enough to think we know enough about Long Term climate changes. But, lots of "on the street" folks like us don't know much about it at all and otherwise don't pick up on all of the little dramas and such. Back in the last century we were taught about geographic changes in terms of strict Gradualism; "hundreds of thousands of years" and "millions of years", and such. Our 20th century education "stunts" our ability to grasp many recent findings, even if we become aware of them at all! The Greenland ice cores are a big example. A lot of the cores had been drawn some years ago but, the in-depth analysis and data collection is pretty recent. Some years ago I read a science oriented article that talked about the cores showing that there had been "dramatic" climate changes in as little as 50-70 years. But now, with all the refinements in measuring capabilities and such they know that the time frames are much, much, shorter than previously estimated. One temperature increase during The Younger Dryas period was as much as 18 F, in as little as 5 years!! Back in 1990 your response would have been: "You've got to be joking, that can't be, it's impossible, , ,". But now it's: "What The F!!". And on, , , , , , , Humanity is the other edge. We are being challenged by a lot that we do not yet fully understand. We've got a pretty good grip on lots of it but, we have a big problem dealing with our "desires" versus reality. It's hard for us to accept/adapt the current climate changes, regardless of what the current-versus-historical might show us. The time frame of our human wants/needs/hopes/musts/can't and such is much too short to deal with much, if any, climate and/or geologic changes. The increase in the current rate of temperature increase is certainly of concern but, we must accept that in "geologic time frames" the Earth's temperature has increased every day since the end of the last Ice Age and, at that, we should expect it to continue to rise. For sure, we need to do what we can do to decrease the rate of increase but, at the same time and perhaps more importantly, we need to plan for how we as a civilization need to deal with continually rising temperatures and seas. ------------------------- Dora Hates You |
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01/29/2023 05:42 AM
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The Right fights for more oil and against climate change. What is the endgame here?
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01/29/2023 09:39 AM
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Human generated climate change is a total fabricated hoax...furthered by taxpayer payments to 'scientists' who advance the climate change fake agenda with tainted altered information.
------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 01/29/2023 at 09:41 AM by Fish Killer |
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01/29/2023 09:46 AM
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You are right- all those cars, trucks, planes and machinery aren't emitting anything. You should prove it to us by sitting in your closed garage while your car runs for an hour ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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01/30/2023 08:31 AM
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Oh...and Jim...you can't get any more 'credentials' on climate science that Professor Ian Plimer has.....
The 'clown' is in fact YOU! This PROOF also makes you WRONZ! LMAO! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 01/30/2023 at 08:32 AM by Fish Killer |
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01/30/2023 05:31 PM
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The 'clown' is in fact YOU! This PROOF also makes you WRONZ! "wronz"? Oh the irony. There goes Fish Santos again- pretending to be someone he's not. Dunder Twin Powers, Activate! Form of.... A Climate Scientist! ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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01/30/2023 06:20 PM
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...fakefishkller...the clown.
------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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01/30/2023 07:10 PM
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WRONZ!
btw, how many peer reviewed papers on Climatology have you written Gary? ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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01/30/2023 07:25 PM
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I understand you are an idiot. See, here is the thing, you post some random clown on youtube, then claim it is real. I post a peer reviewed study from a reputable source, and you claim it is fake. It's pretty obvious that I am not the problem here. lol Well in fact you ARE the problem. You post proved FAKE CRAP! Here is the 'clown' you speak of...and he has more credentials on 'climate science' that literally ANY ONE you can concoct.... IDIOT! "Academia Ian Plimer started as a tutor and senior tutor in earth sciences at Macquarie University from 1968 to 1973.[15][16] After finishing his PhD, he became a lecturer in geology at the W.S. and L.B. Robinson University College of the University of New South Wales at Broken Hill from 1974 to 1979.[15][16] Part of his work focused on the Broken Hill ore deposit - a large zinc-lead-silver mine in Australia.[17][18][non-primary source needed] Plimer then went to work for North Broken Hill Ltd. between 1979 and 1982, becoming chief research geologist.[12][15][16] Due to his publication of a number of academic papers, he was offered a job as senior lecturer in economic geology at the University of New England in 1982.[12][15][16] After two years, he left to become a professor and head of geology at the University of Newcastle through 1991.[10][12] Plimer later served as professor and head of geology of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne from 1991 to 2005.[10][12] He was conferred as professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne in 2005,[9] and was a professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.[1][10][19] Plimer is a fellow (member) of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, the Australian Institute of Geoscientists and the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy;[13] an honorary fellow of the Geological Society of London;[13][20] a member of the Geological Society of Australia, the Royal Society of South Australia, and the Royal Society of New South Wales.[13] He co-edited the 2005 edition of Encyclopedia of Geology.[21] Mining companies Plimer is the former non-executive director of CBH Resources Limited from 1998 to 2010, former non-executive director of Angel Mining plc from 2003 to 2005, former director of Kimberley Metals Limited from 2008 to 2009, former director of KBL Mining Limited from 2008 to 2009 and former director of Ormil Energy Limited from 2010 to 2011.[22][10][23] He is currently the non-executive deputy chairman of KEFI Minerals since 2006,[24] independent non-executive director of Ivanhoe Australia Limited since 2007,[25] chairman of TNT Mines Limited since 2010,[19][26] non-executive director of Niuminco Group Limited (formerly DSF International Holdings Limited) since 2011,[27][28] and non-executive director of Silver City Minerals Limited since 2011.[10][23][29][30][31] Plimer was appointed director of Roy Hill Holdings and Queensland Coal Investments in 2012.[32]" ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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01/31/2023 03:35 PM
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All Lomtard can do is cut and paste the fraudulent writings of either quacks or paidoff shills. He doesn't know the first thing about what he screams about. He just knows its part of his tribalism to defend the indefensible, so he follows along. He does know how to use his CAPS LOCK and bold type though LOL Again.. GARY LEE: Where did you get your Doctorate? ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... Edited: 01/31/2023 at 03:35 PM by fishkller |
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01/31/2023 03:47 PM
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I understand you are an idiot. See, here is the thing, you post some random clown on youtube, then claim it is real. I post a peer reviewed study from a reputable source, and you claim it is fake. It's pretty obvious that I am not the problem here. lol Well in fact you ARE the problem. You post proved FAKE CRAP! Here is the 'clown' you speak of...and he has more credentials on 'climate science' that literally ANY ONE you can concoct.... IDIOT! "Academia Ian Plimer started as a tutor and senior tutor in earth sciences at Macquarie University from 1968 to 1973.[15][16] After finishing his PhD, he became a lecturer in geology at the W.S. and L.B. Robinson University College of the University of New South Wales at Broken Hill from 1974 to 1979.[15][16] Part of his work focused on the Broken Hill ore deposit - a large zinc-lead-silver mine in Australia.[17][18][non-primary source needed] Plimer then went to work for North Broken Hill Ltd. between 1979 and 1982, becoming chief research geologist.[12][15][16] Due to his publication of a number of academic papers, he was offered a job as senior lecturer in economic geology at the University of New England in 1982.[12][15][16] After two years, he left to become a professor and head of geology at the University of Newcastle through 1991.[10][12] Plimer later served as professor and head of geology of the School of Earth Sciences at the University of Melbourne from 1991 to 2005.[10][12] He was conferred as professor emeritus of earth sciences at the University of Melbourne in 2005,[9] and was a professor of mining geology at the University of Adelaide.[1][10][19] Plimer is a fellow (member) of the Australian Academy of Technological Sciences and Engineering, the Australian Institute of Geoscientists and the Australasian Institute of Mining and Metallurgy;[13] an honorary fellow of the Geological Society of London;[13][20] a member of the Geological Society of Australia, the Royal Society of South Australia, and the Royal Society of New South Wales.[13] He co-edited the 2005 edition of Encyclopedia of Geology.[21] Mining companies Plimer is the former non-executive director of CBH Resources Limited from 1998 to 2010, former non-executive director of Angel Mining plc from 2003 to 2005, former director of Kimberley Metals Limited from 2008 to 2009, former director of KBL Mining Limited from 2008 to 2009 and former director of Ormil Energy Limited from 2010 to 2011.[22][10][23] He is currently the non-executive deputy chairman of KEFI Minerals since 2006,[24] independent non-executive director of Ivanhoe Australia Limited since 2007,[25] chairman of TNT Mines Limited since 2010,[19][26] non-executive director of Niuminco Group Limited (formerly DSF International Holdings Limited) since 2011,[27][28] and non-executive director of Silver City Minerals Limited since 2011.[10][23][29][30][31] Plimer was appointed director of Roy Hill Holdings and Queensland Coal Investments in 2012.[32]" ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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01/31/2023 04:05 PM
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HANG PUSSY, LOMTARD! ------------------------- Zzzzzzz.. Zzzzzzz.. Braaaaaapp! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.... |
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