Back in the 90's sometime I had a visible parasitic worm under the skin on my foot that itched like hell. I eventually went to a walk in clinic and was given an unlabeled bottle of some stuff that looked like Elmer's Glue by an older mid-eastern doctor. There were hand written instructions on the bottle "2 tbls orally X2 a day", with verbal instruction to come back if that didn't get ride of the worm. This treatment was rather unpleasant but not harmful in any way, and only seemed to piss the worm off, so I went back. This time I saw a younger doctor, who seemed shocked I drank a bottle of the stuff, but she prescribed another bottle and said to just put it on your foot where the worm is. This bottle also had a label which I paid no attention to. I applied it once and the worm disappeared. I then stashed the Elmer's Glue in the cabinet for possible future use. Its worth noting they kept this stuff on hand in their clinic. Fast forward to early AUG. 2021 when I start seeing news stories about how Indonesia had been using Invermectin for covid because they had a lot of it around. They also had one of the lowest positivity rates in the world, till the gov banded it based on pressure from the US. About the same time I started to hear how many States in northern India began giving it to everyone for prevention and treatment of covid. This caused me to go check that old bottle of glue, and sure enough it was Invermectin, and I had drank 1/2 a pint of it! Today I see this story "Covid free!" this is easily verifiable by other sources internationally too. Believe who or what you want, but something is very, very fishy when it comes to a something that received the 2015 Nobel Prize in Medicine for human use

They "banded" it. How interesting. You seem very smart.

Liar!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

And there, in a proverbial spamshell, you have it, folks.
Straight from the horsefish's mouth: not so shmaat.....
he only wheezes when he whinnies


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It's a democratic hoax

The company that makes the stuff said, "Don't take it, it's not for Covid."

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I was right.

You know who makes Ivermectin? Merck.

You know who is seeking "emergency authorization" for basically relabeled Ivermectin that they can charge you a fortune for? Yeah, you guessed it. The "emergency use authorizations" for anything that has not been approved by the FDA can only exist as long as we don't have alternative treatments. I honestly don't know if Ivermectin works or not but neither do any of you. The drug companies have no incentive to use cheap alternatives if they can line their pockets with money from the U.S. government. The drug companies pump millions upon millions of dollars into television, so they have huge influence over our media. Listen to your doctors but think for yourselves too. If people have been taking the version made for human consumption safely for years and it has had positive results with similar coronaviruses, then I would take it.

Breakthrough cases seem to be everywhere. It looks like your physical fitness is even more important than whether or not you are vaccinated when it comes to your ability to overcome this thing. Weird that you don't hear but a couple people even mentioning this. So, get vaccinated if you choose to but it obviously isn't any kind of a silver bullet. Everyone young and old, should be building the biggest moat they can around their sandcastle of a human body and filling that moat with sweat.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 10/04/2021 at 05:50 AM by Sniper

http://www.reuters.com/article...covid-19-idUSKBN2A42L1

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I was right.

Fit people generally have better immune systems. This has always been known.

Though I personally know several fit people that have had their asses kicked by this thing and one has lasting foot damage from Long Corona.

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I was right.

It looks like your physical fitness is even more important than whether or not you are vaccinated when it comes to your ability to overcome this thing.

The fact that 95% of the hospitalized are unvaxxed says different.

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I was right.

No it doesn't. What percentage of all of them were obese? Probably all of them.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Only fit people got the vaccine?

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I was right.

LAWLZ

What percentage of the people hospitalized or died were obese or had pre-existing conditions?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

What percentage of the vaxxed are over 65 or fat or unhealthy?

Are all Liberals fit and svelte and are all Republicans grotesque slobs?

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I was right.

That's a stupid question. Obviously not.

Who do you think has a better shot at overcoming Covid, someone who is vaccinated and morbidly obese or someone who is in great physical shape and unvaccinated?

My point isn't not to get vaccinated. Get vaccinated if you want to and you don't have any conditions preventing you from doing so but if you are obese and you are yelling at young people and physically fit people about being vaccinated then you need to get your own house in order before you start trying to tell other people how to live.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

What an ASSHOLE you are!

"FEBRUARY 4, 2021"

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

ROFL

Hell, I'll go you one further. It's "Ivermectin" not "INvermectin" LOL

Next try to at least know how to SPELL the thing you are pretending to be so knowledgable about.

Jesus Christ.. frikkin DOHtards..



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Yes Hap this is a tough one... Believe the FDA or believe anecdotal ramblings of a devoted trumpanzee?

How about this, why not just get the vaccine that is proven effective and leave the deworming drug alone so that animals can get treated?

Edited: 10/03/2021 at 07:13 AM by Greensleeves

Libtards following the fauci--it is also in pill form and contrary to fauci and big Pharm, it can be helpful to recovery! Poor libtard flat earthers!!

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

All you do is post and believe your BULLSHIT!

http://www.thedesertreview.com...94b-47343582647b.html

http://covid19criticalcare.com...ovid19-and-ivermectin/

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/03/2021 at 08:23 AM by Fish Killer

show me some fucking science or just STFU

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Take your dewormers for a virus. We don't care.

Obviously you do!

LIAR!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Ivermectin was never banned in Indonesia. The huge surge in cases began there while ivermectin was already in use and ivermectin use skyrocketed as the surge took off. If we use OBXQOP logic then we conclude that ivermectin caused the surge in cases.

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They ran out of the drug due to a surge of people buying it and hoarding it.....

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

No I don't. LIAR! I was making fun of something being "banded". LOL

Well shitforbrains...it is NOT banned!

LIAR!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

You are totally clueless. What an idiot. ^

No...I'm not.

The FDA has NOT banned ivermectin.

Thats a FACT!

I can go get a prescription

Anyone saying different is a LIAR!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

LOL Yes you are in fact a complete idiot

so much so, that you STILL don't understand what HAP was referring to..

and even with my pointing this out, you will STILL not be able to understand it.

so yeah... total idiot as always.

Hap, do you think he will ever figure it out?



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Not when he is permanently out to lunch.

"It's dinner time. LIAR!!!!"

Not as a preventive, but if I was sick with COVID and they said I need to be put on a vent I would try anything at that point....
probably ask for a ivermectin drip....
but the vaccine is the way to go
just to hedge your bets....

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Edited: 10/04/2021 at 06:22 PM by RocketSurf

MY DOCTOR WILL PRESCRIBE WHAT EVER THE FUCK I WANT!

FACT!

The FDA has NOT banned ivermectin.

Thats a FACT!

I can go get a prescription

Anyone saying different is a LIAR!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Pill pusher. That figures.



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I was right.

That is THE PROBLEM.

Pill mills.

Patients dictating to Doctors and everyone getting what they want without regard.

People like FK are the problem.













Edited: 10/03/2021 at 09:39 PM by follydude

LOL

The FK'er finally realized you can't get the sheep de-wormer in human FDA approved pill form without an Rx, which he says he will have no problem getting from his pill mill doctor.





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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

I can get that pill shipped from India....WITHOUT AN RX...LEGALLY!

...and have provided the link as well.

FOOL!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

It's hell getting tangled up in a lie, isn't it?

Well, it ain't the first time for you though, is it?

Don't forget to take all those Rx's your doc prescribed, and have a wonderful Alt Reality day!

LOL!

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If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC - KV

I can now see that if something is legal...that it's not...according TO YOU!

If the FDA didn't 'approve' of ivermectin (and a host of other drugs) to LEGALLY be shipped here without an RX (AND PASS CUSTOMS)....all they would need to do is literally say so!

They could make it illegal without any effort at all.

They don't and have not....because in fact they APPROVE IT!

The only one lying here is you!

Tangled in your own lies.

I have literal proof.....and you doubling down and tripling down wont change your lie!

FOOL!


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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/04/2021 at 04:51 AM by Fish Killer

LOL HAP.. he still hasn't figured it out



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Nope. He is too wrapped up in vermectin.

Edited: 10/04/2021 at 05:02 AM by HAPDigital

FK will take a dose of questionable medicine for a horse from India, but refuses to get a FDA approved vaccine? lol

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I was right.

I bet vets will be more than happy to prescribe him some Trifexis. It'll get rid of his fleas too.

You need to share your oleandrin story too.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Silver bullet? You can't be this dumb. It's like a seatbelt. If someone told you that they had cousin that had a friend that was in a car crash, was wearing a seatbelt and died anyway would you refuse to wear a seatbelt? Do we have a law that requires seatbelts? You can do this, just take the question first and then the answer.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

I do wear a seatbelt but I don't really care whether you do or not. Same with your medical decisions.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

"but if you are obese and you are yelling at young people" huh?

Americans want COVID over. The unvaccinated are a risk to continue the spread, allow for easier mutation, and they clog hospitals. Get vaccinated.

"The company said its analysis of existing and emerging studies of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 found no scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against the respiratory disease caused by the novel coronavirus."

Merck warns against using anti-parasite drug to treat COVID-19

FDA Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19

Don't Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 Merk warns Vets

If having a clue makes one an asshole FishKiller, then I apologize to the world for the millions times I have and will call you that.

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"The truth is incontrovertible.
malice may attack it,
ignorance may deride it,
but in the end,
there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill

Merck has not changed their stance on ivermectin for covid. No official statement says otherwise.

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/

FUCKING LIAR!

The date of your article:

FEBRUARY 4, 2021

Sniper posted this WAY BEFORE you posted your shit!:

http://nypost.com/2021/10/01/m...oral-covid-treatment/

The date of Snipers article:

OCTOBER 4, 2021

WHY DO YOU LIE YOUR ASS OFF CONTINUOUSLY?!?!

...AND GET CAUGHT!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 10/04/2021 at 07:15 AM by Fish Killer

Hey Greenteeth, the vaccines aren't really preventing people from contracting Covid. Maybe they are doing some good in terms of limiting severity when people get it but vaccinated people are getting it all over the place. These vaccines are not going to get us to zero Covid. You probably know plenty of vaccinated people who have contracted it. I know I do.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

You moron. Article has nothing to do with Ivermectin. Guess you are the liar here.

"Pharmaceutical giant Merck and its partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics announced Friday that it plans to apply for emergency approval of its oral antiviral treatment for COVID-19 after the experimental drug showed "compelling results" in clinical trials.

The pill, called molnupiravir, cut the risk of hospitalization or death in patients with mild to moderate COVID-19 by about 50 percent in a late-stage trial, the companies said."

It's remanufactured altered ivermectin as Merc doesn't have patent rights on ivermectin any more...they wouldn't make a dime!



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

For all anyone here knows, both of them might work. Both are ingested in similar doses and appear to serve a very similar function. The biggest difference I see is that Merck stands to make billions of dollars if they keep people from taking Ivermectin and push their new product.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

It has absolutely nothing to do with Ivermectin and it is not even similar. Ivermectin is anti parasite that happens to have minor antiviral properties. Molnupiravir is a completely antiviral drug designed to fight viruses, not parasites. Remdesivir is more like it Molnupiravir and would be more in the line of a competetion drug. You guys are really spreading false info and you are quite dumb to boot.

Edited: 10/04/2021 at 08:09 AM by HAPDigital

Hey folks. Do yer research. herp derp.

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I'm not sure any research is required at all to state the obvious that there is an incentive in the BILLIONS of dollars for Merck to push a new product. There is no incentive for any of the drug manufacturers to promote any cheap alternative that is readily available. That is all. I'm not advising anyone on what they should take. Pretty sure your doctor would be in charge of that. When I see people who don't know jack shit about the topic piling on about a medicine that they know nothing about because of jokes that they have heard on a late-night show, then yep I get really skeptical about where this is coming from.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Ivermectin is profitable as an anti-parasitic with most of the market being veterinary. Use as an anti-viral would be profitable, especially for a smaller company that makes generics. Like people that state that Ivermectin and Molnupiravir are the same thing? And then draw a bunch of conclusions that follow from that false premise?

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So much emphasis on the fact that Ivermectin is used in veterinary medicine. Do you refuse to use any medicine that is also used on animals? Lots of amoxicillin and penicillin are also used in veterinary medicine. Is that enough for you guys to scoff at those drugs too?

A narrative has been formed around ivermectin by the media. Why? Why are people on this board reacting so strongly about this drug? Are there other drugs you guys have strong opinions about or just this one? What is it about this one that makes you guys so mad? I could care less what someone wants to try to get rid of Covid if it works for them and their doctor approves.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Ivermectin is profitable as an anti-parasitic with most of the market being veterinary. Use as an anti-viral would be profitable, especially for a smaller company that makes generics.

Using an antibiotic as an antibiotic? Gosh what a concept. Now if you tell me to use flea dip to try to clear up a staph infection, you might be a crank or a crackpot.

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Plenty of drugs are used for multiple purposes. The desperation you guys display when trying to discount this stuff and trash it is going to make people have the exact opposite reaction you are hoping for.

" Drug repurposing, drug redirecting, or drug reprofiling is defined as the identification of novel usages for existing drugs. The development risks, costs as well as safety-related failure, are reduced with this approach since these drugs have a well-established formulation development, in vitro and in vivo screening, as well as pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic profiles. Moreover, the first clinical trial phases of many such drugs have been completed and can be bypassed to reduce several years of development. Therefore, drug repurposing has the potential to reduce the time frame for the whole process by up to 3 - 12 years and carries great potential."

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

That article got retracted because it overreached in its claims of positive clinical outcomes. There are a bunch of drugs that have antiviral action in vitro that have not demonstrated a useful clinical effect in a living body. People pushing Ivermectin or 'Quin as some kind of side-effect free panacea a blowing smoke. It still stands too that people that make Ivermectin would have profit motive to sell it as anti-viral because it would greatly expand their market, if it worked.

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The beauty of the matter is I do not have to "discount this stuff and trash it" at all. It has all been done by the major medical organizations already.

Not the media, the medical and scientific communities. The drug companies that makes says not to take it for covid. How stupid do you have to be to continue your narrative?

From Merck:
No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

FDA:
The FDA has not authorized or approved ivermectin for use in preventing or treating COVID-19 in humans or animals. Ivermectin is approved for human use to treat infections caused by some parasitic worms and head lice and skin conditions like rosacea.
Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19. Clinical trials assessing ivermectin tablets for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 in people are ongoing.
Taking large doses of ivermectin is dangerous.

AMA:
he American Medical Association (AMA), American Pharmacists Association (APhA), and American Society of Health-System Pharmacists (ASHP) strongly oppose the ordering, prescribing, or dispensing of ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19 outside of a clinical trial.



Molnupiravir is nothing like Ivermectin. It does not have the same chemicals nor was it developed for the same reasons. Molnupiravir did not just appear recently and it is not relabeled or re engineered ivermectin. It was created like 7 years ago for antivirus, not anti parasite.

We are not angry. We are making fun of you because you continue to spread bullshit and crappy ass blog opinion pieces you find from random people because it follows the same half ass beliefs as yours. But if you want to continue to go this route and listen to the great "Thinker" Francine Rose with two followers on her blog, go ahead. We will listen to the trained professionals and manufacturers. Call us sheep, OK. But whatever we are, we are not dumb enough to believe Francine Rose.

Who cares? As long as no one is forcing it upon others, what difference does it make to those others? Let's say that ivermectin does no good and some harm. The same could be said about people's eating habits. Do you want someone hectoring you abouit earing a steak at a restaurant?

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That's molnupiravir, you moron. It is an antiviral drug. Nothing to do with Ivermectin. Can you even read?

No it is not.

Molnupiravir was created a while back and they started working on it to fight the flu. It has absolutely nothing to do with Ivermectin at all. All you do is lie.

The "Francine Rose Newsletter" as a source LOLOLOLOL Wackos.

LOLOLOL

You guys are truly a death cult.

Your trusted source:



2 subscribers and no degrees, accreditation or attributions. LOL

Even funnier:

"Molnupiravir "inhibits the replication of multiple RNA viruses including SARS-CoV-2, the causative agent of COVID-19." According to this paper in Nature on the mechanisms of action of ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2 published in June 2021, (which I won't pretend to totally understand), ivermectin apparently "inhibits and disrupts binding of the SARS-CoV-2 S protein at the ACE-2 receptors." Please, correct me if I am wrong, but that sounds like pretty much the same thing to me."

If you don't understand this shit why comment on it like you do? LOL

Edited: 10/04/2021 at 08:27 AM by HAPDigital

LOL

These two Einsteins are gonna have an awesome winter.



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Hi. I'm Mike.

"And beyond...."

2 doses of the Pfizer vaccine = 80-90% effective protection
3 doses 99%

If 90% of population gets fully vaxed, the virus would be eliminated.

Is that just personal opinion? Does that take into account natural immunity or are you including Covid survivors in your 90% number?


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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Blacks have the highest percentage of unvaxxed--they must be GOP!!

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Romans 8;18-32 John 3;16-18

Uh oh, Drankit's goin off on "the blacks" again.. he must have been on Pornhub recently..



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Blacks? You can't even try not to sound racist. What about browns? From Cleveland?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

There are people every day who try to treat their cancer with far east primitive medicines using herbs and essential oils and shit. None of these people give a shit about that. The bat-signal has been sent out to the left on Ivermectin. They know what they are supposed to do and they are just following orders.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Get the vaccine. Problem solved.

That's the point.



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I was right.

There is no point...medical issues are between a doctor and patient.

This decision is a personal one and does NOT involve you in any way!

It's NOT for you and whoever you want to harass!

FUCK OFF COLESLAW!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

You need to go get vaccinated Gary. TODAY.

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Hi. I'm Mike.

Well that's bullshit. Read any medical journal or blog about "homeopathy" or any of a number of other "alternative" medicines. This particular remedy that has jumped from a hypothetical that needs to be tested to see if there is a therapeutic benefit to a "tried and true alternative medicine that big pharma is trying to keep from the masses" is the topic du jour because it is affecting millions of people and helping to convince a lot of people to forgo something that works (vaccines) in favor of a treatment that isn't bearing out to do any good in practice.

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Most of the people who have decided not to get the vaccine aren't holding back because they plan on relying on Ivermectin to save them. They aren't getting the vaccine because they either don't feel like they are at risk or because people haven't been forced by a king to put a fluid into their bodies, for their own good, probably since Medieval Europe when the king had to make sure all the babies born were of the right genetic makeup. Anyone who thinks shaming someone into doing something like this, making it seem like you know better than they do about what is good for them, or the President saying things like "We've been patient with you but our patience is running thin." Is going to encourage skeptical people to vaccinate has lost their F'ing mind. (Also, from Biden's statement WTF IS WE?) No surprises that everyone responsible for this vaccine rollout have been more interested in feeling superior to others and being mad at people who are on the fence than they have been in truly understanding what motivates people.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Because they are bad at math. Not for their own good really. Much like the masks. The real fun is people that post memes like "Of course all medications are safe when they are making billions of dollars" as part of their argument for why they don't "trust" the vaccine. Then they immediately post praising DeSantis for opening the monoclonal antibody treatment centers.

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You sure about that? Run the numbers on the number of people under 30 years old who have died of Covid. Now run the numbers on what percentage of those people had pre-existing conditions. Take that data to a healthy person, under the age of 30 years old, without pre-existing conditions, and sell them on the idea that they should be scared for their lives.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Rate of injury from Vaccine/rate of injury from covid adjusted for known and unknown comorbidities. But you guys like getting the Phil Valentine award. Plus, the more people that forgo the vaccine the more likely the hospitals are to be plugged up with covid patients and if you have appendicitis or get in the wreck and the ER and ICU are all full of covid.... Vaccination isn't just about your own person belief about your relative risk when it comes to a communicable disease.

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It's about owning them "libtards".

Well, shit. If that is where we are setting the bar, then why don't we let the government inject marinara into our kids' arms? Who cares if it won't do anything to help them. It probably won't hurt either. F-it. Shoot some Monster Energy drink in there. Might make them run real fast or something.

Might as well start giving the kids the drugs that are designed to stave off HIV. Never can be too careful.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 10/05/2021 at 12:41 PM by Sniper

The manufacturer does not reccomend it's use for cove, and they are the ones making $ from it.. That alone should tell you something..

Planning to get my 3rd Pheiser soon.. My choice - seems like I have been exposed many many times with FL's high positivity rates and not much mask wearing, and have not got the cove yet.... Thought I had it recently (cough, sore throat, flem etc) but cove test showed negative - just a mild case of the flu - no fevers etc.. Surfed through it whenever there was waves to be had...

Employers are fully within their rights for mandating that you get the jab - or do you expect them to be liable for your poor choices negatively affecting their customers.. You think that you signing some dumb ass disclaimer will help them liability wise.. They are not that dumb.. Neither are their customers

Stupid is as stupid does.. Carry on...

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There are NO white people at all in the Bible... take all the time you need with that...
Please stop feeding the trolls - they will go away if you do...

Edited: 10/16/2021 at 10:52 AM by surfsail

Bat signal? Orders? Im not following either. I followed the science you treated as the elephant in the room. Even now when 3rd posts it, you drone on about other stupid people and midieval bullshit. Do you think seatbelts should forced upon drivers? Helmets on motorcyclists? Do those choices implicate others and possibly kill them?

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

397M vaccinated in the USA. No deaths associated with the vaccine, not even in the world. 2 Deaths from Ivermectin in the USA since the misinformation about the drug has been spread. Poison control centers are getting crazy amounts of ivermectin OD calls. Even more people dying because they refused "the jab". Lots dying on their death beds asking for the vaccine when it is too late. Your choice, sure. We are not trying to feel superior, we are just trying to keep you from dying and spreading disease. You just don't like the fact that the people trying to help you are moderates and left wing folks. But I'm starting to care less. Let the dumb die off. It's their choice.

Get the vaccine today Sniper. and stay far away from that iNvermectin.



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Which drug is Invermectin? Is that Merck's new hybrid commercialized reengineered more consumer friendly Ivermectin?

It's like exactly the same thing as molnupiravir. Francine the bloogger said so.

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Do you mean Francine the "Thinker"?

Qnipe's reasoning skillz off the rails and land in a tub of marinara. Qnipe, go get a physical and have your doctor address your BMI. Monster is not the solution.

The vaccine is proven to work and helps our society. His people would rather take animal dewormer.

Oh I GET IT NOW!

Covid is some species of WORM, right?

Right?

No?

wtf..



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Hi. I'm Mike.

Risk a dose of dewormer designed for a horse or get an FDA approved vaccine?

How is this even a discussion?

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I was right.

If that is your stance, based on your extensive medical background, then cool. If someone else's doctor chooses to try something else, then why do you care?

What happened to "my body, my choice"? Some crystal-clutchers believe that they can get rid of diseases by burying crystals in their backyards. Who f'ing cares?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

But why would YOU choose something made for animals and humans on a limited basis that might work, but isn't approved for Covid, over something that does work and is approved by the FDA?

It has to be politics, right?



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I was right.

Would you not jump away from a Fer-de-lance if a Liberal said there was one under your feet?

I don't get your reasoning.

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I was right.

I can't pick this shit up at Walgreens without a prescription and I don't tell my doctors how to do their jobs. So, if I was to ever take it, it would be because my doctor thought it might help and they prescribed it to me.

I surely wouldn't laugh in their faces just because the people here don't like it.

Most people here would do the same thing but then you would lie about it, if asked.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 10/06/2021 at 07:37 AM by Sniper

Has your doctor suggested you get the vaccine?



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I was right.

I'm not discussing any of my medical discussions or decisions here. It is immaterial to the conversation.

Regardless of my choices, I don't think people should all be forced to inject something into their bodies, regardless of whether or not they are at risk or of their personal circumstances, in order to earn a living. Before you guys support things like this, you should always think about how you would feel if the shoe was on the other foot. If you open this door, are you going to be okay with a Republican government forcing you to do something similar. I don't want any of it to be mandated. People are generally pretty good at assessing risk vs. reward in most circumstances like this. Let them make them and then live or die by the consequences. You can't live in a free country without being able to handle people making choices that you wouldn't have made.

If doctors are seeing success with Ivermectin, good for them. None of my f'ing business.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden