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 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tpapablo - 09/15/2021 06:58 AM  
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 Delta to beat vaccines.   - scombrid - 09/15/2021 07:31 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - scombrid - 09/15/2021 07:33 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Cole - 09/15/2021 07:36 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Fish Killer - 09/15/2021 07:36 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tpapablo - 09/15/2021 08:57 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - RustyTruck - 09/15/2021 10:02 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - scombrid - 09/15/2021 10:09 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Sniper - 09/15/2021 11:24 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - scombrid - 09/15/2021 11:39 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Greensleeves - 09/15/2021 11:29 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - stokedpanda - 09/15/2021 11:49 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - surfsail - 09/15/2021 11:49 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - scombrid - 09/15/2021 11:53 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - surfsail - 09/15/2021 12:01 PM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - 1974 - 09/15/2021 01:47 PM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tom - 09/16/2021 03:25 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - scombrid - 09/16/2021 06:43 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - somebodyelse - 09/16/2021 06:34 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - johnnyboy - 09/16/2021 06:45 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tpapablo - 09/16/2021 07:01 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Greensleeves - 09/16/2021 07:17 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Fish Killer - 09/16/2021 07:37 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Sniper - 09/16/2021 08:38 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - johnnyboy - 09/16/2021 07:28 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - 1974 - 09/16/2021 08:27 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tpapablo - 09/16/2021 11:32 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Greensleeves - 09/16/2021 08:59 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - CurtisEflush - 09/16/2021 10:29 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Fish Killer - 09/16/2021 10:37 AM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Fish Killer - 09/16/2021 12:25 PM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tom - 09/16/2021 02:27 PM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tpapablo - 09/16/2021 03:25 PM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - Fish Killer - 09/16/2021 03:33 PM  
 Delta to beat vaccines.   - tom - 09/16/2021 05:24 PM  
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Great while it lasted.

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Right below the picture it says "Source Dr. Mercola". Let that sink in. Dr. Mercola is the "go to" doctor for the GOP now. Mercola. Let that sink in.

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Of course yesterday he posted from Jack Posobiec. The party has gone full CoCheech.

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A five minute listen.

http://www.npr.org/2021/08/08/...nformation-is-a-doctor

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In short, while Pfizer's COVID-19 jab still neutralized the Delta variant, when four common mutations were introduced to the RBD, the vaccine lost the ability to neutralize the variant and instead enhanced its infectivity.

Although Pfizer-BioNTech BNT162b2-immune sera neutralized the Delta variant, when four common mutations were introduced into the receptor binding domain (RBD) of the Delta variant (Delta 4+), some BNT162b2-immune sera lost neutralizing activity and enhanced the infectivity. This has implications for booster shots on the horizon as well, which are unlikely to be effective.

"A third round of booster immunization with the SARS-CoV-2 vaccine is currently under consideration," the researchers explained. "Our data suggest that repeated immunization with the wild-type spike may not be effective in controlling the newly emerging Delta variants."5

Despite the growing recognition that increasing injections may only make matters worse, President Biden said he has spoken with Dr. Anthony Fauci about giving booster shots at the five-month mark after the initial round of injections rather than waiting eight months, as previously suggested.6

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 09/15/2021 08:57 AM
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Well, since I posted the information about a Japanese study and cited to CFP, the study is obviously wrong. The hard fact that Delta already has been getting around the vaccinations, doesn't take away from that wrongness. So, what to do? Seems clear cut to me - you vaccinated progs need to flaunt your covid imperviousness by letting covid sufferers sneeze in your unmasked faces. You progs are so smart. You really got me on this one.

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The covid vax will not be "one/two and done". It will be more like the flu shot.

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Mercola. Their chief medical advisory is Joe Mercola. Guess that is par with Mike Lindell and J. H. Pulitzer being their chief election security experts.

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OR was "Delta" fabricated as a smokescreen to hide the complete inefficacy of the vaccines?

Without the idea of "delta" everyone would just think that the vaccines suck. Now, they have a scapegoat or they can just say that you would have gotten much sicker had you not been vaccinated, which is very convenient because that shit can't be measured. Maybe we just got better at treating it and burned through many of the most vulnerable early on.

Why wouldn't we be testing for "delta" to see where it is vs. where it isn't? It makes no sense why we wouldn't be testing for the delta variant and making an attempt to see how many cases we have.

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Originally posted by: Sniper Now, they have a scapegoat or they can just say that you would have gotten much sicker had you not been vaccinated, which is very convenient because that shit can't be measured.
Uh, if half the population is unvaccinated and half is vaccinated and >90% of the people in the ICU are unvaccinated.... I'll have to go back and look but I think the head of Parrish medical said that all 50 death in August were unvaccinated people. That is how it is being measured.

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Oh brother! Delta was fabricated y'all!

Other things qotards think fabricated:
Morality
Education
Jogging
BMI measurement system
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

Oh brother! Delta was fabricated y'all!



Other things qotards think fabricated:

Morality

Education

Jogging

BMI measurement system


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A quick look at the article Headlines in Citizens Free Press tells the tale all by itself.. Usual BS propaganda.. tpap, where do you find this shit? Ever hear of credence ? Not going to find any of your posts.. Carry on entertaining yourself..

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Joe Mercola and Jack Posobiec. That's where they are getting this stuff.

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It's obvious that as long as people refuse to get the jab, the more strains are going to develop, and the effectiveness of the vacc is not going to as good .. The 'tale of the tape' (aka "science") thus far is that the existing vacc's are working pretty well on the Delta keeping those out of hospitals.. Yep - many of the vaccinated are getting it (100 - 95 = 5%), but even so it's no big deal..

The more pressing & vexing problem is that the anti vaccers are cloggng up the hospitals, and those with other (non-covid) issues are also paying the price - which is why the vaccinated are quickly loosing patienc and demanding that the anti vaccers literally 'pay a price'.. At least the unvaccinated are the ones bearing the brunt of this with their stupidity - Darwin still hard at work..

Just heard that my wife's cousin who has been struggling for the last few weeks can not get back into the hospital in O'town - 'no room left at the inn'.. Not surprising.. Paul is finally starting to pay for Paul's stupidity..

Eventually there will be a strain that we will have to develop new vacc's for - hopefully they will not take as long as the initial batch to get into arms and we can modify our production facilities..

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How can Delta beat vaccines if it's all just a Chinese hoax to get Biden elected? Inconsistent misinformation? Preposterous.

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Originally posted by: tom How can Delta beat vaccines if it's all just a Chinese hoax to get Biden elected? Inconsistent misinformation? Preposterous.
There are people flying to the US from all over to get the vaccine when they can't get it at home. I guess they don't listen to Joe Mercola.

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RustyTruck: The covid vax will not be "one/two and done". It will be more like the flu shot.

And every year, you get to decide IF you want to get the Flu shot or NOT.
Old people, medical personnel people with health problems usually decide to get the Shot,
Healthy People may decide NO they don't want the shot...

That is risk assessment.
That is a health choice we make every year...

Surfsail: Eventually there will be a strain that we will have to develop new vacc's for -
hopefully they will not take as long as the initial batch to get into arms and we can modify our production facilities..

Yea, it's the MU variant, now in 48 states, originated in Columbia...
Start developing the new vaccine for it because todays vaccines don't touch it...

BUT, in the meantime stop mandating todays vaccines as they don't work on the new variant...
Why mandate a vaccine that is already outdated and ineffective?
Thats like mandating last years flu vaccine when this years is already infecting people...

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>>The Florida governor's spokesperson, Christina Pushaw, said no one who viewed DeSantis' more than 50 public appearances promoting vaccinations would accept that the governor believes vaccines change people's molecular structure.

"Vaccination does provide good protection against severe outcomes for fully vaccinated people," she said. "However, the science behind vaccines does not support the Biden Administration's vaccine mandates."<<

How's that for conflicted?

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy >>The Florida governor's spokesperson, Christina Pushaw, said no one who viewed DeSantis' more than 50 public appearances promoting vaccinations would accept that the governor believes vaccines change people's molecular structure. "Vaccination does provide good protection against severe outcomes for fully vaccinated people," she said. "However, the science behind vaccines does not support the Biden Administration's vaccine mandates."<< How's that for conflicted?
Not conflicted at all. What is the medical profession's view on forcing a treatment on a patient against his wishes? Ever hear of informed consent?

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Hey stupid, the medical profession says get vaccinated. Can you imagine qspank's decision making process?
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Originally posted by: Greensleeves

Hey stupid, the medical profession says get vaccinated. Can you imagine qspank's decision making process?


Not my doctor!

FUCKWAD!

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I will look up the number of people who received the first shot but didn't follow through with the second and post it but it is not a small number of people.

The majority of those people are not people who are just waiting to get the second shot. The majority of them are people who got the first, had a bad reaction, and their doctor advised them not to follow through with the second shot.

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The medical profession forces about ten to fifteen vaccines on everyone to go to school. Its why we don't have people expressing their freedom to die from measles, mumps, Rubella, and a score of others. I really do wish this virus was more like polio so that when the scientifically challenged skeptics contract it, they don't die, they just walk around with a giant disfigured body part as a souvenir for their choice.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy I really do wish this virus was more like polio so that when the scientifically challenged skeptics contract it, they don't die, they just walk around with a giant disfigured body part as a souvenir for their choice.


LOL no kidding.

They could call it getting "Nicki Minaj'ed"



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Originally posted by: johnnyboy The medical profession forces about ten to fifteen vaccines on everyone to go to school. Its why we don't have people expressing their freedom to die from measles, mumps, Rubella, and a score of others. I really do wish this virus was more like polio so that when the scientifically challenged skeptics contract it, they don't die, they just walk around with a giant disfigured body part as a souvenir for their choice.
What is the science of deciding whether to undergo a medical procedure. What does science tell us about that? Is it anti-science to decide to drive to work or surf? Each of those activiities involves a risk of injury or death. Does science tell us not to do those things? You'd best learn what science is before you go calling people "scientifically challenged." You'd be one of those people.

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Qish's Dr conflicted. He's yucky but he's got medicaid money...

Yeah you do that Qnipe... qotards trying to google stuff that backs up their fantasy world is a hoot!
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Superhuman Immunity

It's being dubbed 'superhuman immunity'.

New research shows some people may have a significantly higher level of immunity to COVID-19 that could even protect them from future pandemics.

Scientists studied individuals who have recovered from the virus and then later received a mRNA vaccine, such as Pfizer or Moderna.

What they found was that protection against the disease and its variants was higher than immunity conferred by either infection alone or vaccine alone.

Paul Bieniasz is a virologist at the Rockefeller University, he prefers the term hybrid, rather than superhuman immunity:

"So this is a phenomenon that we and others have uncovered in people who were infected by SARS-CoV-2 early in the pandemic, and then some months later when vaccines became available, they were vaccinated."

"..Their antibodies were not only capable of neutralizing all of the SARS-CoV-2 variants that we have seen thus far, they're also capable of neutralizing viruses that are very much more diverse, including the original SARS coronavirus, which is really quite different to the current ones, viruses that are currently circulating in bats and pangolins..."

(more at the link)
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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Alex, I think that's "Who is smarter than Celebrities and Atheletes?". Correct, the answer is Kindergarteners! Let's go with more dumb memes for $400 please!....

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Originally posted by: tom Alex, I think that's "Who is smarter than Celebrities and Atheletes?". Correct, the answer is Kindergarteners! Let's go with more dumb memes for $400 please!....
Actually, Tom, to be precise, it is "who is smater than progs?"

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: tom

Alex, I think that's "Who is smarter than Celebrities and Atheletes?". Correct, the answer is Kindergarteners! Let's go with more dumb memes for $400 please!.... [IMG][/IMG]


Actually, Tom, to be precise, it is "who is smater than progs?"


Anyone is smarter than a prog.

LMAO.

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Yep. Isa 11.6.

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Children that age can't be vaccinated. The meme moron strikes again.

And no, Delta isn't beating the vaccine. Political persuasion* is beating the vaccine.





* Can also be referred to as stupidity.

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Originally posted by: tpapablo
Originally posted by: tom Alex, I think that's "Who is smarter than Celebrities and Atheletes?". Correct, the answer is Kindergarteners! Let's go with more dumb memes for $400 please!.... [IMG][/IMG]


Actually, Tom, to be precise, it is "who is smater than progs?"


Says it all :-)



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