Remember when doctors were instructed not to perscribe it for Covid? Turns out it improves survival rate by over 200%.

How many people did Democrats kill just because they hated Trump?

People lost their jobs and were banned from social media for suggesting that Covid originated in the Wuhan lab. Turns out it is most likely true.

People died because they didn't have access to hydroxychloroquine.

You got Biden in the White House by lying to people and killing people.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

No way dude, it was a hoax and more people die of the flu. No cause for concern and no mask required.


People died because they were stupid or people lied to them and told them to go to trump rallies and cough on each other.

I, like many other enlightened persons, took reasonable precautions, and was vaccinated at the first opportunity.

I'm good to go.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Edited: 06/11/2021 at 05:49 AM by RustyTruck

277 people out of 30,000,000 people under the age of 20 years old died of Covid, so the flu is much more dangerous for those people but again, we were all lied to on that front.

Cotton masks never did shit. Neck gaiters and bandanas never did shit, yet 80%+ people walked around wearing them for a year.

Next time there's a pandemic, can we start with the science at the beginning instead of after you guys have gotten what you wanted politically?

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Once again validating my system of always being right: if a prog believes something, the opposite is always true.

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I :heart; Q

If people had been allowed to hear the truth, then there is no way Biden would have gotten elected. The vaccine was announced 5 days after the election, legacy media colluded with social media to make sure that facts about the Biden family were not allowed to reach the public similar to how Iran and China control the flow of information, while pumping out lie after lie after lie and calling anyone who disagreed with their lies quacks or racists.

Up next, asymptomatic spread....

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Kind of fun to go back and look at what some of you who are eating shit now had to say about it a year ago.

https://www.2ndlight.com/fuset...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

https://www.2ndlight.com/fuset...=hydroxychloroquine%20

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

(CNN) - Two guests aboard the first major sea cruise hosting Americans since the pandemic halted the industry have tested positive for Covid-19 in required end-of-cruise testing, the cruise line said Thursday.

The two guests, who shared a stateroom on the seven-day Celebrity Millennium cruise from St. Maarten, are asymptomatic, in isolation and being monitored by a medical team, Celebrity Cruise Lines said in a news release.

Take your chances.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Study finds 'staggering' number of American lives could have been saved with hydroxychloroquine

By World Tribune on June 6, 2021

Analysis by R. Clinton Ohlers

A new study provides further evidence that the drug hydroxychloroquine saves lives and could have been doing so on a large scale in the United States throughout the pandemic.

Estimates suggest at least 100,000 could have been saved.

The study headed by Dr. Stephen Smith, a graduate of the Yale University School of Medicine and a former research scientist at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases under Dr. Anthony Fauci, found that when properly adjusted for a patient's weight, the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azythromycin together improved patient survival rates by more than 100 percent.

Smith was reluctant to give a specific number when asked how many might have been saved had the drug not been banned in hospitals last year, in an interview with Fox New's Laura Ingraham, but he called the number "staggering."

When pressed further, he agreed that 100,000 was a reasonable number of lives that might have been saved.

Ironically, Smith is unable to prescribe the drug at his own hospital, Saint Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, New Jersey, where the study was conducted. That hospital banned use of the drug for COVID-19 back in December, after earlier restricting it for clinical studies only in March of 2020. Smith does however prescribe it in his clinic, the Smith Center for Infectious Diseases and Public Health.

The finding is particularly significant since patients in the study were severely ill, already requiring intubation. Most were also over age 60 and had high rates of hypertension, diabetes, and obesity.

However, what they had in their favor was that many arrived at the hospital and received hydroxychloroquine within 10 days of their initial symptoms, placing them within the ideal window for the drug to be effective.

Original dosage recommendations for hydroxychloroquine, Smith says, "were very low." His study adjusted dosage more appropriately for weight.

The only significant differences between the 201 patients who died and the 54 who lived was who received hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin proportional to their weight. Those who did survived at just shy of 3x the rate of those who didn't.

The study also found hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin outpaced survival rates for convalescent plasma. Those who received convalescent plasma survived at just under twice the rate as those who did not.

Just over a year ago when hydroxychloroquine was first suggested as a treatment for COVID-19, critics echoed concerns that the drug, previously deemed highly safe, might increase heart arrhythmias. Smith and his co-researchers found that increasing the paired drugs in proportion with a patient's weight did not increase any negative side affect on heart rhythm.

This additional finding, was not unexpected, as it matched earlier studies performed last year. In addition to being a very safe drug, hydroxychloroquine, which accumulates in a person's body, is also administered safely at much higher cumulative rates to Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis patients.

Smith described the banning of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 by hospitals such as his as extraordinary. Normally a drug would be banned if unsafe, but a safe drug would not be banned for a single application only. Normal medical practice is to allow doctors latitude in prescribe drugs in such manners.

"If I decided I thought hydroxychloroquine worked just to treat migraines, I could use it for that," but "not for COVID-19," Smith said in the interview. "That was a unique ban in American medicine."

Smith and his cohorts are not new to the hydroxychloroquine controversy. Smith spoke out pointedly in defense of the drug in March of 2020 when New York area hospitals, including St. Barnabas, restricted prescription of the drug only for clinical trials.

"I have never heard of a hospital doing something like this," Smith said in an interview with WND at the time. "It goes against all my understanding of medical ethics in research."

"It's totally unethical. You are not allowed to steer people into a clinical study," Smith added. "That is strong-arming people."

"It's never happened before," he said of the hospital policy in March, calling it "a bad sign for medicine going forward."

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Dora Hates You

Edited: 06/11/2021 at 06:11 AM by dingpatch

Did Trump take it to cure his Covid? Nope.

And people did have access to HCQ.

Got anything else?

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I was right.

But it was all a hoax to make a small man look smaller. Remember?

Eating shit? Nobody is eating any shit except you guys who can't get over losing the election because trump botched the response to Covid. Keep crying about the election.

As for Covid, for those of us smart enough to take precautions and get vaccinated, we're all good.

You vaccinated snipe?

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

So what are your thoughts on bleach to treat the corona virus? How about really bright lights. What's the conspiracy there. Or better yet, how do you feel about it going away like a miracle? By Easter of 2020. The statement that an anecdotal remedy that was not scientifically vetted at the time has to be taken with all of his statements, even the really dog shit stupid ones you would like to gloss over.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Thank you for that JB! Another lie! Show me where Trump told anyone to drink bleach. Every single one of you are full of shit. I don't even know if you actually believe this stuff or if you just play along because in your minds the narrative is all that matters. Let me rephrase that, Cole's little pile of goo in his cranium definitely believes all of it.

Or maybe you are referring to Wanda Lenius, the lady who said her husband drank fish cleaner because Trump recommended hydroxychoroquine. Another lie. This is being investigated as a homicide.



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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 06/11/2021 at 08:22 AM by Sniper

April 24, 2020

That's when.

I'm confused. Were you posting this as another example of where Trump has been more honest than the piece of shit media machine in this country? Are you showing me another example of where you were duped or where pompous, snarky, journalists thought they knew something, so they passed it onto their pompous, snarky, readers, so you could all look stupid together?

"A specific wavelength of ultraviolet radiation killed more than 99.99% of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, in laboratory tests, a new study has found."

"She said the UV light destroys the proteins and nucleic acids that make up the virus, essentially disabling it. Destroying the proteins and nucleic acids makes it impossible for the virus to replicate and complete the cycles necessary to infect people."

"The findings mean that UV222 could be a safe way to disinfect spaces contaminated by COVID-19, the researchers said."


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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Edited: 06/11/2021 at 09:31 AM by Sniper

Here is what qnipe is proposing...

So Twitler was too weak to get Quin in use? Even when Quin supposedly saved lives? Is that what you are saying QNipe?


Qnipe trying to prop up his morbidly obese god. Hey qnipe you suq.

We were LoLing at T'rump and Dr. Demon Sperm too.




These Conservitards will go out of their way to avoid science.

"Every single one of you are full of shit."

Could be you dude.

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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

Randy Fine took it and posted a vid about it. Said it did not do squat for him.

trump killed 600k Americans, and the toll is likely higher than that - FACT!!

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you're totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn't been checked, but you're going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you're going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?"

"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it'd be interesting to check that, so that you're going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we'll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That's pretty powerful."

So yeah, basically said inject disinfectant (bleach is a disinfectant) and shove UV lights up your ass (which qotards secretly would love).

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

I've always said sunlight kills everything. That's why I thought keeping indoors was stupid.

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

I read the original study on Hydroxychloroquine, it came out of Australia I believe. Zink was the key and the Hydroxychloroquine helped it pass through the cell wall, so if you want to really split hairs, zink is your cure.

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I was right.

No...clearly it was stated that BOTH were required...

BUT you and your butt-buddies on this forum poo-pooed it to no end.

Oh wait....look at this thread.....YOU STILL DO!

FUCKWAD!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

UV sterilization isn't exactly a new concept, but it is not a human treatment, any more than ingesting disinfectant.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

And why would any of that matter since it's no worse than the flu? Why even bother?


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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Is that how you beat the virus? Bright lights? Impotent rage. You can fact check yourself but when others do it for you like folly did, at least say thanks.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

Based on your track record, you can go ahead and lower your voice when you have something to say.

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"The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama

“End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden

Who would ever shove a catheter full of UV lights into an intubated patient's lungs?
Maybe some quacks in California?

Great to see someone working on something. This type of tech was and is nowhere near ready for operational use, that is why the UV suggestion for a problem that needed immediate solutions was laughable.

Simply put the trump admin never got ahead of this, and they paid for it. Now 600k dead Americans.

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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Let's see if we got this right: had the world simply listened to the fat orange messiah, none of this would have happened.....
Yet another failed attempt at deflecting attention and blame from where it belongs: chumpf knew how dangerous this thing was....and did nothing.
Then when it became apparent that it wasn't going to pray away, disappear, simply go away....(it's over!): the fat yammering ham spamwich you dolts called lord and massa began flailing around dredging up all these idiotic schemes.
Anybody remember the nigerian witch doctor bitch he foisted on the public?
It was demon sperm that caused it!
Laughably, hopelessly stupid, willfully and slavishly ignorant.
Thats's chumpfscum for ya folks....
"The companies involved peddle everything from chiropractic adjustments, exercise sessions, nasal mists and rinses, vitamins, supplements, and extracts. There's a slew of therapies with impressive names like peptide, oxidative, stem cell, ozone, intravenous vitamin, and infrared sauna therapy. All of these products and treatments have one thing in common: there is no evidence - as required by law - that they work against the Coronavirus.
When it comes to fighting COVID-19 and spotting unsupported treatment claims, follow these tips:
When there's a medical breakthrough to treat, prevent, or cure a disease, you're not going to hear about it for the first time through an ad or sales pitch.
Always talk with your doctor or healthcare professional before you try any product claiming to treat, prevent, or cure COVID-19.
Visit CDC.gov and the FDA.gov for the most up-to-date information about COVID-19 and available vaccines."

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It's a democratic hoax

Anyone ever wonder how many bullshit and outright deadly dangerous scams The traitorous baby blimp lit off with all his cover his ass excuses?
Well, here's a list. just drink aquarium cleaner...miracle!
And the groveling goobers on here with their fake tans, yak hairpieces, and orange smiles still peddle this nonsense.
But then: these are the same dopes who bought chump horse steaks, attended chumpf u, and invested in chumpf airlines.....duuhhhhhhh

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It's a democratic hoax

Edited: 06/11/2021 at 12:23 PM by nukeh2o

A novel virus requires a novel treatment, and when Trump made those statements, there were basically zero known-effective treatments. Studies can't be designed, approved, executed, followed up on, and reported overnight.

In the context of Trump's statements (quoted by follydude), he ask Dr. Birx if that was something she was looking into. Now, I have no idea if Trump had heard about the work at Cedars-Sinai when he made his statement (which was in the week preceding Cedars-Sinai's application for emergency use), but he probably heard discussion about in some circle before making the statement. The close timing between statement and announcement, plus the fact that Trump is too stupid to envision an internal, light-based treatment on his own, suggests he heard it from someone. His natural inability to speak coherently about it undoubtedly left everyone shaking their head.

To be clear, Trump is an idiot, and I voted for Biden. Trump's handling of the crisis is a wonderful example of how not to do things. But to Sniper's point, most of you are so rabidly blinded by hate that you refuse to evaluate individual statements on their own merit. Similar to the bandwagon of "natural zoonotic transfer" vs the "Lab Leak Conspiracy." Trump's propensity to lie makes him much less credible than The Boy Who Cried Wolf, but you overgeneralize at your own peril.

I certainly hope most of you never sit on a jury.

He knows more than the doctors...
and the generals. And the economists. And the whoever the fuck he dreams up today.
He has like a good...you know what. He's a stable genius...just ask him.
I am not a potted plant. There's no tracking chips or marker chemicals that make you glow like a firefly folks.
Just Shut the fuck up and let the world's best epidemiologists and infectious disease specialists in the world do their damn jobs, folks.
Without needing fucking bodyguards.
Stuuuuu-piiid.....

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It's a democratic hoax

Sorry, I did not do that. I was aware of light treatment.

Exactly what you said is my point - if you cannot speak coherently about something, don't. That is what I am saying.


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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay

Interesting pilot study, but still not an accepted treatment. Decreasing viral load in the lungs doesn't do anything for multisystem inflammation and associated complications.



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“It is the heart of US policy to use fascism to preserve capitalism while claiming to be saving democracy from communism “ - Michael Parenti

From the study:


CRP is sent by your liver into the bloodstream as a response to inflammation. So a decrease in CRP and decrease in WHO clinical severity scores suggests the UVA treatment is indeed having a multisystem effect.

Also, reducing viral load in the lungs (suggested by reduction in viral aspirate) should free up the lungs to do a better job of oxygenating blood, thus possibly avoiding or reducing the need for invasive treatments like ventilators and ECMO.

I can't confuse anti science speculation with hope even in hindsight. Just because you can, its not a lie.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

The Repugs idolize tRump because he recommended sticking large round objects up their arses.

Here is a partial list of all the scams foisted upon americans and the people of the world. All in the name of deflecting blame for criminal negligence on a national, even global
scale from the worst lying sack of pigshit flim flam politician in U.S. history.
Another shameless con from the mighty grifter in thief.....and you goober rubes fell for it.
Again.
what would you expect from chumpf u. flunkies....


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It's a democratic hoax

wtf: trump killed 600k Americans, and the toll is likely higher than that - FACT

Facts, 400K death toll as of Jan 20th...
400K deaths in 12 months,
200K additional deaths since BIDEN took office less than 5 months ago...

Trump 33K deaths per month
Biden 40K deaths per month, but the toll is likely higher than that FACT..

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Sorry dude, these are all on trump. He's the one who blew the response. Sorry you cannot accept the failure the former chief qotard, but FACTS are FACTS.


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QOP = Terrorists
FK = Gay