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Topic Title: Survival epiphanies
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It looks like last weekend's attempts to get out in front of this failed miserably. This week trump thought he would use the same trick he used with his Russia investigation (Russia, if you're listening....) and double down with China, if you're listening. The bag of tricks seems pretty empty. Fake news. Deep state. Hillary. Conspiracy. But none of it is new or effective so the GOP is watching their sacred cows march into the line of fire.

What does it mean?

It means that the GOP will have to jettison him. Individuals within the party are doing the math on the continued ridicule, loss of credibility and complicity.

Let's keep track of who has placed their survival above trump's in their survival epiphany, where they say they must put their morality above politics and their party and oust him. Timing notwithstanding, it's going to fun to watch the dominoes fall.

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 10/06/2019 03:33 PM
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Keep smokin' those hefty bowls of crack!



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 10/06/2019 03:48 PM
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He is going to take the party dowm just like we thought he would.

Donald Trump as president, who in the fuck thought electing a lying, cheating, half-assed businessman was a good idea?

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 10/07/2019 04:52 AM
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Here's a crack for the Lyin fish to smoke.

http://www.republicansagainsttrump.com/

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 10/07/2019 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Here's a crack for the Lyin fish to smoke.



http://www.republicansagainsttrump.com/


Did your grandchild's 6th grade class put that together with the help of their progressive commie teacher?

Just curious.

Thats actually something a third grade class would invent....

My bad!

I did however find this fucking hysterical!

"Once we reach a "critical mass" on our e-mail list, we will be mobilizing supporters who signed our petition to assert pressure on necessary Party and Elected Leaders.."

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

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 10/07/2019 05:50 AM
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For the trumpublicans, it's not about right and wrong, it's about winning and losing. The party doesn't really exist anymore, it's just a cult of personality loyal to the orange god.

They'll prop him up until enough Indies and a few sane old GOP people cross over.

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 10/07/2019 06:22 AM
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F'ing hysterical is where I thought you would land. The confirmation is appreciated.

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 10/07/2019 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

F'ing hysterical is where I thought you would land. The confirmation is appreciated.


"Agree That Republican, Conservative, and/or Libertarian Policies Are Best Solution For Our Constitutional Republican;"

Maybe in all of your 'brilliance' you can explain to us all exactly what 'for our constitutional republican' is!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 10/07/2019 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy It looks like last weekend's attempts to get out in front of this failed miserably. This week trump thought he would use the same trick he used with his Russia investigation (Russia, if you're listening....) and double down with China, if you're listening. The bag of tricks seems pretty empty. Fake news. Deep state. Hillary. Conspiracy. But none of it is new or effective so the GOP is watching their sacred cows march into the line of fire. What does it mean? It means that the GOP will have to jettison him. Individuals within the party are doing the math on the continued ridicule, loss of credibility and complicity. Let's keep track of who has placed their survival above trump's in their survival epiphany, where they say they must put their morality above politics and their party and oust him. Timing notwithstanding, it's going to fun to watch the dominoes fall.
Won't happen, Johnnyboy. But you go ahead and keep track of them. We will look forward to your daily updates on this.

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 10/07/2019 07:39 AM
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Not unless or until you tell me what the price of tea is in China and whether that will go down or up once Ivanka gets another expedited copyright on Magatea.

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Colin Powell basically called trump an idiot. Yup folks, this is what the dotards have done. Bravo, LMFAO

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 10/07/2019 01:40 PM
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The Right will soon come out in mass and say what Trump did was wrong, but it isn't an impeachable offense. Of course they are wrong and what he did is 100% against the law, but that won't matter to the Recucklicans.

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Originally posted by: Cole
Of course they are wrong and what he did is 100% against the law,


Liar!

What Biden did was against the law!

Trump...hell no!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Originally posted by: Cole The Right will soon come out in mass and say what Trump did was wrong, but it isn't an impeachable offense. Of course they are wrong and what he did is 100% against the law, but that won't matter to the Recucklicans.
Not I. What he did was perfectly fine. Glad he did it. We should be investigating these people.

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It is a crime. Your opinion doesn't matter one iota.

So is paying hush money to a porn star and once again, the Sate of NY doesn't really care about your opinion on the one either.

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Originally posted by: Cole

It is a crime.


No it's not!

As a matter of fact there is a TREATY that states it's an OBLIGATION!

LIAR!

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Colin Powell basically called trump an idiot. Yup folks, this is what the dotards have done. Bravo, LMFAO

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TFishski seems to pick and choose his crimes to suit his "needs" LOL

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It's an avalanche. They talked about honesty and integrity before Trump. Now they pretend that his pussy grabbing, affairs, his ambitious ignorance, his self dealing and soft spot for dictators is more bad than wrong. This is the complicity. This is the road that they went down justifying the little lies each day until they were miles down the road with so many lies under their belts that they are far more likely to avoid interviews than explain how this too just ain't the lie that that ends it.

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I agree, their lies have compounded to the point of no return. I can't wait for the one on one debates. If I were the Democratic candidate, I'd make a monster list of Trump's tweets and ask him about each and every one on national television.

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Even little marco trembled close to criticism.
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I think Lindsay Graham's strong support of the Kurds is the beginning of his survival epiphany.

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Did one of his 1/16" testicles grow a size.. like the Grinch's heart?

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http://www.politico.com/magazi...a-kurds-turkey-229541

Poor Lindsay. When you dance with the Devil, its not the Devil who changes.

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Your comprehension is lacking. Your interpretation is just wrong. But you and your ilk don't seem to mind those things.


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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Your comprehension is lacking. Your interpretation is just wrong. But you and your ilk don't seem to mind those things.


Your comprehension is lacking. Your interpretation is just wrong. But you and your ilk don't seem to mind those things.

Your a fucking MORON!




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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Your a fucking MORON!


Classic
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Withholding approved aid is in the treaty too?

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The list of acts of the 106th United States Congress includes all Acts of Congress and ratified treaties by the 106th United States Congress, which lasted from January 3, 1999 to January 3, 2001.

Acts include public and private laws, which are enacted after being passed by Congress and signed by the President, however if the President vetoes a bill it can still be enacted by a two-thirds vote in both houses. The Senate alone considers treaties, which are ratified by a two-thirds vote.

Summary of actions

Public laws

Private laws

Treaties

No treaties have been enacted this Congress.

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Originally posted by: Cole

The list of acts of the 106th United States Congress includes all Acts of Congress and ratified treaties by the 106th United States Congress, which lasted from January 3, 1999 to January 3, 2001.



Acts include public and private laws, which are enacted after being passed by Congress and signed by the President, however if the President vetoes a bill it can still be enacted by a two-thirds vote in both houses. The Senate alone considers treaties, which are ratified by a two-thirds vote.



Summary of actions



Public laws



Private laws



Treaties



No treaties have been enacted this Congress.


Liar!

http://www.congress.gov/treaty...ress/16/document-text

"Formal Title
Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998, and with an Exchange of Notes signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application.
Date Received from President
11/10/1999 Text of Treaty Document available as:
TXT
PDF
Countries / Parties
Ukraine
Executive Reports
Ex. Rept. 106-24 ( TXT | PDF )
Latest Senate Action
10/18/2000
Resolution of advice and consent to ratification agreed to in Senate by Division Vote. "



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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Originally posted by: Cole

Withholding approved aid is in the treaty too?


Nobody withheld anything.

Liar

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Originally posted by: 6ScoopsMcGruntington

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Your a fucking MORON!




Classic




Soooooo classic.


That's our Lyin Fish- always up to somethin' stupid.

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Here fishy fishy fishy. It's not fun unless it's in caps.

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I think turkey's remarkably quick invasion into Syria exhibits Trump's failures as stateman, a leader and even a negotiator.

Let's add Lindsay Graham and Liz Cheney to this group.
http://www.politico.com/news/2...-backlash-trump-042654

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MORONS!

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Now trump is claiming that he withdrew from Turkey because the Kurds didn't fight with us in world war 2. He's also throwing shade for help in fighting ISIS by saying that they were really fighting for their own land. He's flailing. He's a liar. He was pinned by a leader who knew how to play him and even trump threatened to destroy their economy if he did exactly what he's doing now, trump sits in his one man war room tweeting in impotent rage as his "fellow" republicans try on their new spines in private.

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Public support from a Fox news poll is 56%.

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LOL Trump withdrew because his owner, Putin ordered him to.

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So turkey, a NATO member is now buying Russian military hardware and using it on American allies within 48 hours of Trump being sodomzed.

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Ah, the orange cuck.

Such winning



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Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) will reportedly return campaign donations from two known associates of Rudy Giuliani who were arrested Thursday for violating campaign finance laws, Vice reports.


The House minority leader and the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC) both received considerable donations from Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, a pair of Ukrainian-American businessmen.

Parnas and Fruman were reportedly helping Giuliani, President Trump's personal lawyer, put pressure on Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden.
The duo were arrested and indicted Wednesday on charges of funneling illegal campaign contributions into a pro-Trump super PAC.
Parnas and Fruman also gave money to other Republican candidates, including $50,000 to Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.
McCarthy received $2,700 directly and an additional $11,000 went to Protect the House, a joint fundraising committee of which both McCarthy and the NRCC were beneficiaries, according to the news source.
"These contributions were made ahead of events sponsored by Protect the House, a joint fundraising committee that McCarthy helped form last cycle," McCarthy spokesman Matt Spark told the Hill in a statement.
"The deception documented in today's indictment has no place in our country and as a result, McCarthy plans to donate amounts received to a local charity."
A local charity has not yet been recommended.

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 10/19/2019 07:06 AM
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Trump's the biggest traitor in American history. A walking stain. A ball full of hate, greed and ignorance. The greatest threat to our national security, and the most corrupt politician ever. He's unfit in every way. He should be impeached, removed, arrested and thrown in prison.

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So if you are a surfer I wish you the prosperity that allows you more time to pursue the salt water dream, and the true happiness that comes from warm water, clean waves and the companionship of your fellow surfers. If you are an internet troll just spewing bs then f off.
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/...AIKY0Q?ocid=spartandhp

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From today's first article on NPR:

>> President Trump deputized lawyer Rudy Giuliani to run a shadow foreign policy for Ukraine outside the State Department, witnesses told Congress this past week - and the White House said people should "get over it."<<

Thank you Mick Mulvaney. You alone will convert more republicans from trumpanzees than anyone. This is the biggest, clearest push for an honest understanding of what happened yet. We are criminals. So is everyone, get over it. While I agree that the GOP has participated in trumps personal enrichment as he sold out the country for too long to ever stop and criticize him without needing to defend themselves from the same criticism, politics demands this. Mulvaney just delivered it.

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I watched with no surprise how the house republicans tried and failed to censure Adam Schiff. "It will be said of House Republicans, when they found they lacked the courage to confront the most dangerous and unethical president in American history, they consoled themselves by attacking those who did,"

That up the GOP complicity.

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They are pathetic.
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Mitch McConnell has "no recollection" of Trump's perfect phone call. This was Trump's attempt to bring McConnel into a defensive posture with him in the same way that he tarred Pence with the "perfect" phone call. Moscow Mitch went very public with his denial. Foreshadowing.

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The heat is being turned up.

http://www.politico.com/magazi...nightmare-trump-229885

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We are truly living in bizarro-world. The same Democrats who want Trump crucified for his phone call with the Ukranian President do not give a single shit that the DNC sent Alexandra Chalupa to meet with the Ukranian embassy in 2016, seeking dirt on Donald Trump. Democrats want to nail Trump to the cross because he may have done something that Biden clearly did do, based on his own admission. What about Hillary paying a law firm, who paid a Brit, who paid Russians for fairy tales about Trump? These are the reasons nobody takes Democrats seriously.



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Keep not taking trump's own admission serious. Keep calling the "process" a deprivation of the rights afforded to those in criminal cases as if impeachment was the same. Never acknowledge the substance until you have to and then present a false equivalence like this.

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This is what desperation looks like. Had Trump been a Democrat, this phone call wouldn't even have raised an eyebrow.

The vaguer the accusations against Trump get, the crazier his accusers have to get. Combine that with the fact that the Durham investigation is expanding its scope and has shifted to a criminal inquiry and you can expect to start hearing some shrill ass shit from the left.

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No sniper, a Democrat would have been impeached for far less. An Army officer is testifying today that he was deeply concerned and reported trump's call for a foreign government to investigate a US citizen and political rival in exchange for military aid that it desperately needed (and had been approved by Congress).

That's tyrannical, and should not stand in a free society. Now you may love the sense of power that trump has given you temporarily, but you and the blind faith trumpists will be remembered badly by history.

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck

No sniper, a Democrat would have been impeached for far less. An Army officer is testifying today that he was deeply concerned and reported trump's call for a foreign government to investigate a US citizen and political rival in exchange for military aid that it desperately needed (and had been approved by Congress).

That's tyrannical, and should not stand in a free society. Now you may love the sense of power that trump has given you temporarily, but you and the blind faith trumpists will be remembered badly by history.


Democrats would have been impeached for far less? Like putting guns in the hands of Mexican cartels, so they can shoot and kill American border patrol? Like weaponizing the IRS to go after your political opponents? Like covering up a terrorist attack, blaming it on a YouTube video, because it wasn't convenient for your re-election campaign? Like secretly dropping off pallets of cash to the mullahs in Iran? Okay, LOL.

I've already provided enough examples of Democrats doing the same or worse. There are more. The three Democrat Senators who sent the letter to Ukraine, threatening Ukraine, while telling them that they better help with the Mueller investigation.

I'm good with this impeachment effort. The Democrats don't have a choice at this point but to move forward with it and it will backfire on them. Democrats see the Durham investigation moving forward with criminal inquiries and they see how weak their primary candidates are, so they are desperate. They know none of those candidates can beat Trump. They can't rely on an election to remove him from office.

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Guns in the hands of Mexican cartel members. Wow. Where to even begin? With the background checks? The ease of purchase?

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eh, like getting a blowjob?

Kinda not as big a deal, brah

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Still about Benghazi? lol

But yes, I agree, the BJ is a much bigger issue.

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Nobody got impeached for getting a blowjob or for sticking cigars in a fat intern's vag aka the ole Arkansas Tobaccy Packy.

Clinton was impeached for perjuring himself and directing subordinates to perjur themselves in the sexual harassment case brought by Paula Jones. The case resulted in Clinton losing his license to practice law, Clinton paying Jones $850,000, and Clinton being impeached for perjury.

Now you have the rest of the story...

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Originally posted by: Sniper

... impeached for perjuring himself and directing subordinates to perjur themselves ...



Sounds familar...



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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry...07602e4b03d0aacfdf08e

Here's what every member of the GOP says today. This will be the point of reference later.

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry...4b03d0aacfdf08e



Here's what every member of the GOP says today. This will be the point of reference later.


The TRUTH is that it's a partisan effort meant to overturn the 2016 presidential election.

It's been going on since the DAY Trump was elected with PROOF to back that statement up!

FACT!

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It looks like the poll numbers for impeach and remove are at 50%. The bet now is that once that gets to 60%, the GOP will abandon their defenses of him.

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It appears that Nunes vomited the entire buzzword of three years of GOP talking points. The GOP has doubled down. There is no floor to how low they will sink in their complicity. My theory about them sprouting spines and standing up to Trump is based upon the Public's perception of this impeachment. If the general public think that he should be impeached and removed at 60% or higher, those same people will think that the GOP are the new deep state thwarting their will.

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Nunes sounded like he was just phonin' in the hits..

I think I heard someone shout "freebird" while he had the mike.

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Jim Jordan "Play somethin by skynyrd!"

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Yep, a pure torrent of, "YEA BUTS!" lol

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Jim Jordan, the attack dog that was supposed to go for the throat ended up setting the stage for what will probably be the most memorable zinger of the proceedings. "The one person who knows the most is Donald Trump and we have a seat waiting for him." Mic drop. Meanwhile, trump is inexplicably meeting with Erdogan and publicly claiming he's not watching his ship rip past the iceberg and take on water as he literally tweets out segments from his fan boys. It's not a great look for them.

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