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 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/09/2020 06:29 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - garcia - 12/10/2020 04:04 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - jdbman - 12/10/2020 05:03 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - CurtisEflush - 12/10/2020 08:41 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - LBLarry - 12/10/2020 06:04 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/10/2020 08:15 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - surfin1980 - 12/11/2020 07:31 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - stokedpanda - 12/11/2020 01:31 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - dingpatch - 12/11/2020 02:47 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/11/2020 04:26 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - garcia - 12/11/2020 05:46 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - surfin1980 - 12/11/2020 05:46 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/11/2020 06:11 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Retread - 12/12/2020 06:12 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/12/2020 06:08 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Cole - 12/14/2020 06:23 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/12/2020 08:32 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/15/2020 02:50 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/16/2020 03:20 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/16/2020 03:21 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Pagerow - 12/16/2020 01:00 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/16/2020 05:35 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - jdbman - 12/17/2020 01:37 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Cole - 12/18/2020 07:40 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/18/2020 08:05 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Cole - 12/18/2020 08:23 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/19/2020 08:11 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/19/2020 08:34 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Cole - 12/19/2020 06:33 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - garcia - 12/20/2020 08:16 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/20/2020 01:59 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/22/2020 01:26 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - StirfryMcflurry - 12/30/2020 08:35 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/29/2020 06:59 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 12/31/2020 05:39 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 01/01/2021 06:28 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Cole - 01/05/2021 06:50 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 01/10/2021 12:25 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - tpapablo - 01/15/2021 02:28 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 01/18/2021 03:53 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - jdbman - 01/22/2021 01:03 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 01/29/2021 01:39 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - garcia - 02/06/2021 08:00 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 02/06/2021 09:08 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 03/12/2021 06:15 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - Cole - 03/13/2021 08:39 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 03/14/2021 05:14 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 03/18/2021 04:17 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 03/19/2021 07:31 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - tpapablo - 03/25/2021 04:11 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - garcia - 03/26/2021 05:32 AM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 03/27/2021 12:14 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - garcia - 03/27/2021 02:22 PM  
 Rum for the holidays.   - johnnyboy - 03/29/2021 11:09 AM  
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While the rest of the world goes Gaga over bourbon, sipping rum is my hobby. Going for highest rating at best price.

Top five:
1. Santa Teresa Solera. Bolder flavor with the smoothness in perfect union. $40. (93pts)

2. Plantation FIJI really good and better with each sip. $24 (98pts!)

3. Babancourt 15 yr. The cognac of rums. $50

4. Flor De Cana 12 year. Smoooooooooth. $33. (93pts).

5. Kirk and Sweeney 12 year old. Just perfect. $33. (95pts).
Honorable mentions Cruzan $30 single battle and dos Maderos 10 year$30 ish And maybe Zafra 21 year old $50.

I always thought I would like just one and drink just that but I have been limiting myself to just one glass a night and only one or two nights a week so I can really get the quality and enjoyment out of it. I use one big cube in those silicone four molds. Let it sit for a few minutes and make last about a half hour. Really enjoyable. I use the points system at first to try new things but now it's to verify my own tastes. Babancourt is not even rated and it's one of the best while Santa Teresa solera is a 92 and it's the best. Some of the lower priced ones are great but the flavor comes from sitting in barrels for years and mellowing and that gets expensive. The whole plantation line is great but the Fiji is $24 and excellent.

Let me know what you think is worth trying, your rankings and what you love. I'm always interested and I quit drinking bourbon when the hipsters hijacked it and made middle of the road bottles Cost more than the very best rums.

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 12/10/2020 04:04 AM
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I love Blackwell's. It is made by/under Chris Blackwell who brought reggae to the States from Jamaica. He was a music pioneer and his rum is delicious, with a hint of vanilla (as best I can describe it). Moderately priced and delicious. My wife found it a couple of years ago and that is what I now buy. Barbancourt and Flora de Cana are really good, but, I still like Blackwell's better. I also like Ron Abuello and Cruzan. Santiago from Cuba is really, really good, but, you can only get it in Cuba. The stuff sold in the States is made in PR and is not very good.

I gave up on bourbon in the early '70s when I was a new drinker. I drank way too much one night and burped it for a week (after barfing it for a night). Can't tolerate the smell anymore. Rum has never let me down.
 12/10/2020 05:03 AM
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Hooray Rum

My favs ( I'm no expert like JB )

Bacardi 8

Flor de Cana ( I have had the 50 and it is spectacular, but others of the line are quite good also)


Don Q cristal : great mixer

I'm a fan of where ever you are the local is best.


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 12/10/2020 08:41 AM
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I've read good and bad reviews about "10 Cane" from Trinidad. I've never been a rum-sipper -- usually a mixer -- but have found 10 Cane to be one of the more palatable ones to sip.

One review said it was made from cane instead of molasses, and was thus more like Brazilian Cachaça.
 12/10/2020 06:04 PM
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I happened upon a bottle of 25 year Flor a few months back in Durango Co. ( of all places! ) ..... INCREDIBLE !!! But at $135.00 ( "Happy hour" pricing at a local liquor store, ya gotta love Colorado ! ), it damn sure better be.


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 12/10/2020 08:15 PM
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I have seen it but it seems like that price is too much and I can't justify it. But I've never had it. That could change if I have it and it's justified.

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 12/11/2020 07:31 AM
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Can't go wrong with Pusser's. As a fan of the Caribbean and the surf there, the Painkiller goes well after a long session.
 12/11/2020 01:31 PM
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I have been wanting to try "Frigate Reserve" because Flip Pallot is the man LOL. I love a good Jamaican rum and flora

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 12/11/2020 02:47 PM
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Can't start to think of all the rums I've drank in the US Virgin Islands. There was not a law against "open containers" to begin with, then you realize how cheap it is! No US Customs Duty or Sales Tax. The regular Cruzan was just about as cheap as a bottle of "fancy" drinking water!

For now, I prefer Flora de Cana and/or Cruzan.
 12/11/2020 04:26 PM
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Had the cruzan single barrel last night. It's remarkably close to the 15 yr Babancourt. I love it.

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 12/11/2020 05:46 PM
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Please stay away from Blackwell's. I would hate for it to become so popular that they jack the price up. More for me.
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Ding, always nice when you are exiting the St. Thomas airport, and they pump you full of Cruzan samples...for free!!
 12/11/2020 06:11 PM
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The only other Jamaican rum I've had is the Appleton estate. I did not like it. Looking Forward to trying blackwells but I have about three ahead of it.

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 12/12/2020 06:12 AM
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Surprised no one mentioned Diplomatico Reserva Exclusiva to start @ $30 +/- Others up to $300+ I've never had the pleasure... Picked up some Koloa Kaua'i Dark while there and really like - available at Total Wine @ $40 & cheaper if you're on Kaua'i (insert smiley face here).
 12/12/2020 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Retread Surprised no one mentioned Diplomatico Reserva Exclusiva to start @ $30 .
Just got some. Not bad at all! Mahalo!

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 12/14/2020 06:23 AM
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I've always bought Matusalem 15; it's smooth with no burn for $25. I sip it neat.

Their Gran Reserva 23 is like toasted butter.

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 12/12/2020 08:32 AM
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I do like the diplomatico but it's a bit sweet. The dictador is also good.

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 12/15/2020 02:50 PM
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Just bought the blackwells. I feel compelled to report ASAP.

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 12/16/2020 03:20 AM
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Got a bottle of Flor. Always brings back Popoyo memories

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 12/16/2020 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy Just bought the blackwells. I feel compelled to report ASAP.
I know a rum person who says it's kinda average. Let us know..

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 12/16/2020 01:00 PM
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If you ever travel internationally and have access to the Duty Free store, you GOTTA try Ron Centenario XX (twenty year old). It sips like a light syrup, and goes down wonderfully.

It's wrapped in a light brown leather bottle (tall, not short bottle), and it sold for $40 a few years ago in the Duty Free shop.

Anyone headed to Costa, pick me up a bottle, I'll pay extra!
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It's smooth. It's a bit sweet. My friend who comes with me to Costa Rica buys the Cuban cigars and drinks that neat. He dips the end right in and chomps on it too. I think the smoke counteracts the sweetness and snottiness makes the bottle drop like it's leaking.

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 12/17/2020 01:37 PM
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Ron Centanario

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 12/18/2020 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

It's smooth. It's a bit sweet. My friend who comes with me to Costa Rica buys the Cuban cigars and drinks that neat. He dips the end right in and chomps on it too. I think the smoke counteracts the sweetness and snottiness makes the bottle drop like it's leaking.


Cool. I like sweet.

I keep threatening to buy a bottle of Grand Marnier Cuvée du Centenaire, but I'm afraid I'll suck the bottle down and not respect the $150 price tag.



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The Blackwells is not a sweet mess. It's a very good rum. Sips well. It's a great addition.

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 12/18/2020 08:23 PM
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Does ABC have it? Blackwells that is...

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 12/19/2020 08:11 AM
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No idea. I started this whole thing at total wines because they had the ratings on the price. I went with highest rating and lowest price.

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 12/19/2020 08:34 AM
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mahalo for da report!

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 12/19/2020 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

No idea. I started this whole thing at total wines because they had the ratings on the price. I went with highest rating and lowest price.


ABC is just up the road from me and TW is a trip. I'll look for myself.



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 12/20/2020 08:16 AM
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Yes, ABC has Blackwell's. That's where I get it.
 12/20/2020 01:59 PM
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Just got the Pilar blonde...anyone try it? It's pretty smoove.

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 12/22/2020 01:26 PM
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I got the dark aged in sherry casks. Very sweet. Is the blonde sweet too?

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 12/30/2020 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by: johnnyboy I got the dark aged in sherry casks. Very sweet. Is the blonde sweet too?
Yes. a little too much for me. Soooo - I tried out the Grander - from Panama. So far - LIKE

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 12/29/2020 06:59 PM
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Tonite it's el pasador del oro. Guatemalan. 93 pts and $36. Smooooooooooth. It's nice to watch Miami rally and still lose and Texas play well while sipping it.

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 12/31/2020 05:39 PM
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It's a big night. Kaniche perfection XO. From Panama. 91 pts and about $33.

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It's a lot like abuelo. Which is good.

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If you have some cheap stuff you need to mix, try this. I've been drinking it thru the holiday season.

http://www.allrecipes.com/vide...ohns-hot-buttered-rum/

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Last night it was a gift that I drank. 20th anniversary plantation. Excellent. Broke my own one glass rule.

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Ron Zacapa is my go to sipping rum. $40 a bottle or so. The XO variety is $100+ but excellent for sipping.

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It's is smooth. It's my buddy's favorite. I suggest the Santa Teresa solera for a spin. Same price.

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Tonight I will be breaking out the Foster's oil cans. ( on sale at Publix, buy 3 get 2 free)
I am celebrating getting a Covid shot. ( and the end of tRump )
I will also be playing Zuma by Neil Young on my old school tube stereo with vinyl on turntable with my rebuilt speaker cabinets with the 15" woofers.



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So Kaniche perfection is really good. Really good.

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Got a bottle of Diplomatico for Christmas. Mmmmm, good stuff. Also, my "go to" bargain rum used to be Ron Abuelo. I still like it, but, have been drinking Blackwell's since my wife got me a bottle for my birthday last year. I first got Ron Abuelo in Panama for about $1.99/bottle back in 2005. I bought the store out (only about 5 bottles, it was a small store) and drank it during my trip, bringing the leftovers back at the end of the trip. Good stuff.
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I love the Ron Abuelo 12 year old. The blackwells is one I just tried recently and it's a bargain.

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So the plantation dark is 18 a bottle. It's very good. I like it more than the Blackwells.

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Doorly's from Barbados is nice. Smoother than like priced rums.

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I just bought a bottle of R L Seales 10 year old Barbados rum. 93 pts. $26. I will report once I am able.

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The r l seales is a smooth sip. It's not the bold flavor of Santa Teresa solera but it's very good. 93 pts. 26 bucks.

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Tonight is Ron Zamora. Mostly because I misread the bottle. I thought it was aged 23 years. It's not. It's a blend of 23 Guatemalan rums. Turns out it's good. About 23$ a bottle.

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Which would you say is the best so far?

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My wife picked up a bottle of Blackwel's last week at ABC and was told they were going to quit carrying it. Sucks.
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I think the Santa Teresa solera is the best, or at least my favorite. If you drink any bourbon or whiskeys on the rocks, try that.

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Haven't been able to drink either since I was about 20 (45 years ago) after a particularly rough and ready night. Burping it for a week turned me off forever.
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Some things should not be recycled.

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"One of the reasons why propaganda tries to get you to hate government is because it's the one existing institution in which people can participate to some extent and constrain tyrannical unaccountable power." Noam Chomsky.

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Hey Matt B ... How the hell o are you ??? :)