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Topic Title: Irma: Wisdom gained (please share your experience)
Topic Summary: About what to and not to plant for storms...
Created On: 09/17/2017 07:28 AM
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 09/17/2017 07:28 AM
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palmtreeg

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Having been beachside Brevard 15 years now, have seen a few strong winded storms, Jean, Frances, Mathew, and now Irma.

I am mainly palm and tropical focused...

My experience is: fishtail palm and white birds suck in high winds, keep away from house. I always thought coconut palms were good to go, but lost a 25 footer that skimmed the roof and took out 40' of gutter.

Foxtail, spindle, and robolini seem to do really good...also, travelers palms have done ok...

Areca, so so, at least they won't do much damage to home...My royals have held up well, I keep away from house because of falling fronds...

I really want to get mango and avacado trees going, how was you all's experience with those trees and what variety do you recommend?

TIA and I hope your homes, trees, and most importantly loved ones fared well in the storm!

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 09/17/2017 09:49 AM
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Central Floridave

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Ironically my "hurricane" palms fall down for hurricanes.
 09/17/2017 11:57 PM
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ww

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Irma wasn't a problem down here.  As much as I love my rootspine palm (Crysophila), it fares badly in wind.  Messed up last year, worse this year.  

No problems this year with Sabal palmetto, Archontophoenix (one broken leaf), Carpentaria, triangle palm, Everglades palm (Acoelorrhaphe), even a young Latania. 



Edited: 09/19/2017 at 05:43 AM by ww
 09/18/2017 10:13 AM
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Central Floridave

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My rootspine palm that is well over the roof line does pretty good in hurricanes.

Christmas palms don't seem to blink at them either.

King palms fall over, ironically from Australia typhoon region.

 09/18/2017 10:54 AM
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WG

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Don't bother trying to grow tall banana plants in FL.
My huge coconut trees are still standing, but they released a lot of cannonballs.
Royal Poinciana survived by dropping half of its branched all over my lawn and roof.

Tall oak trees in Orlando have weak roots.

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Edited: 09/18/2017 at 01:09 PM by WG
 09/18/2017 12:14 PM
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jahcocoa

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What fared well:

bottle palms (these things look flawless)

veitchia palms(montgomery)

adonidia (flawless)

King Palms, all kinds

Sabals

Chambeyronias

Kentiopsis

Coconuts (lots of broken branches)

all palms from Carib like coccothrinax crinita etc and buccaneer palms

triangle palm

dypsis pembana

royal palm

ixora

screw pine

Florida thatch palms

Things that did poorly:

Glenn mango, second time it was knocked down (Matthew last year)

my limequat turned brown and died pretty much immediately

bananas

brazian cloak plant

 

 

 

 

 09/18/2017 12:16 PM
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e11even

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http://indian.ifas.ufl.edu/Emergency-Disasters/Hurricane_Damaged_Palms_ENH1204.pdf

Some info for palm trees after hurricanes



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 09/18/2017 01:08 PM
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WG

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My Nam Wa Thai bananas are all down, but my shorter Indian Raja Puris are fine.
No more Nam Wa for me.. Anybody want pups, I have plenty. You dig

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 09/18/2017 05:07 PM
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palmtreeg

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Thanks for the knowledge!

In fairness to my coconut palm, a neighbor informed me that a tornado went through my backyard, so that would explain how she tumbled...

My Hawaii stripe bamboo has always done great in storms, they lose every last leaf, which I use for mulch but they always come back

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 09/19/2017 06:23 AM
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scombrid

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Originally posted by: jahcocoa

 

 

my limequat turned brown and died pretty much immediately

 

bananas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't give up on stuff that defoliated.

Everything in our landscape that was black/brown the morning after are dropping leaves and already budding new even the blueberries and brunfelsia which are very salt sensitive. Except the tender perenials, cotton, etc... That stuff is smoked I think.

Our bananas are going to have to start back from the root as is one of our papayas that got split and uprooted.

Our other papaya survived with a little lean and seems to have liked the rain as the fruits are huge. I just have to get them down before the maggots get them.



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 09/20/2017 09:07 PM
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ww

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Like Scombrid wrote.  Don't sweat ruined leaves.  Give the plants time to see if they'll re-leaf or resprout.  

At Heathcote garden in Ft Pierce, failures:

olive tree (split trunk)

Japanese fern tree (did badly in Matthew, should remove it)

Autograph tree, Clusia rosea.  It was a thick tangle with shallow roots.  Lots of rain.  Went over.  I think most would do better if kept trimmed.

Big Schefflera.  Not wrecked, but it might get chainsawed.  

A big thicket of lady palms (Rhapis excelsa) ended up leaning.  

Some successes:

Nearly all the palms did well, including a huge clump of Acoelorraphe wrightii, Everglades thatch palm.  Sabal causiarum crown looked rough, but it has a good looking spike.  

Most of the aroids (philodendrons and whatnot) look fine.  The "hurricane lily" bromeliads are all flowering.  Silk floss tree is flowering.  

 

 09/21/2017 08:24 AM
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DHodges34

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WG I'm interested in some nanners, where are you located? I can PM you if you want.

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