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Topic Title: CROTONS
Topic Summary: Croton diseases
Created On: 05/12/2017 04:11 PM
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 05/12/2017 04:11 PM
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dab

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Several of my Crotons have been de-leafed. Anyone have any ideas of what it could be?  



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 05/12/2017 06:14 PM
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jahcocoa

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It probably could be a number of things. I bet a picture on here would help some of the people on surfline diagnosis it for you.  In my yard I have lost some to having them in a too wet and shady environment. They seem to get a blackish mold and decline, ultimately getting leafless and dying. Did yours have a black colored mold? Is it in shade?

 05/12/2017 06:31 PM
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Poncho

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I've had 3 older crotons, probably close to 20 years old, die in the last couple of months. Have turned black. Plan to take them out tomorrow. Not sure why, but I feel it's some kind of disease.

 05/12/2017 08:55 PM
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Central Floridave

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More than like croton scale. and/or drought.
 05/14/2017 06:59 AM
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HarbourJungle

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Mine have croton scale pretty bad as well, it sounds similar to yours. Going to get some ladybugs today. Hope that will help



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 05/14/2017 09:38 AM
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put coffee grounds around the base and maybe spray the scale with neem and soap...also smash them if you are patient enough..cull the herd, ya heard.

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 05/14/2017 05:46 PM
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I bet is is scale.  turned my hands green squishing the bastards by running my fingers up and down the stems.  bought a bag of ladybugs at Sun Harbor.  Helped a bit.  I tried neem, didn't work that great.  Did the dishsoap with cayenne and lemongrass. That killed more. I don't know where they come from, but they continue to return.  I didn't do coffee grounds on the crotons.  Then they went ballistic on my firebushes.  I threw in the towel and sprayed them with talstar.  All dead. I don't know how long talstar lasts, but I did it when nothing was flowering. hate to use that stuff.  

 05/15/2017 07:07 AM
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coming from the ants...ants don't like coffee

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 05/15/2017 08:17 AM
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scombrid

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Black stuff is sooty mold. It grows on scale poop. Ants cultivate the scale.

Scale thrives on stressed plants.

 



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 06/06/2017 05:01 AM
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I was wondering why the heck my crotons turned to crap. I looked under the leaves and identified it as scale too. All over my plants


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 06/13/2017 10:24 AM
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dab

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Thanks everyone. I just got back to Florida from WNC last night. I had only seen them in pictures previously. Seven out of ten completly gone. Three look,like they are normal. Too strange. Genetics maybe?



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 06/16/2017 05:30 AM
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i had a couple of mine get croton scale and you have to aggressively fight them or they will win. Everyday I was out there scrapping them off with my fingers. Seems like they like broad leaf croton the best and the ones that get more sun. I eventually had to break my no pesticide use policy and use blue bottle bayers systemic. That was a couple years ago. Haven't seen them since. but always looking for them. I've got some rare croton as I collected them for a long time and didn't want to lose them. As they will kill the plant.
 06/16/2017 11:08 AM
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Jonesey1

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Had a few of the wide leaf wiped out but the picasso paint brush ones seemed to do okay with what we got here. Anyone know where to get picasso paint brush crotons these days?

 06/16/2017 11:18 AM
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I find picasso paintbrush has the least tolerance for cold out of all the croton. Sometimes you can find them in the big box stores. I always buy them when I do see them. They are great. They do best in full sun also.
 06/17/2017 05:31 AM
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dab

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I may have break my no agrichem policy too! But, I'm going to try the organicide method first. 



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 06/18/2017 08:12 AM
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I have had great success using IFAS's recipe for "Insect and Disease Control" on aphids, scale and sooty mold recently - "2 Tbsp cooking oil + 2 TBSP baby shampoo in 1 gal water. Spray every 5-7 days. Make sure to water the day before and do not spray in the heat of the day or full sun." I had to spray for about 4 weeks in a row (I had some bad issues with Asian scale), but, it took care of it. It looks like I am getting some issues again, so I am going to start spraying again, but, I sure feel comfortable using this as opposed to insecticides. (Plus, my hair now has a real pretty sheen to it, too!)
 07/02/2017 04:53 AM
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Thanks for the recipe. If you add some rubbing alcohol in that mix that may make it more lethal also.

I haven't seen any sucking insects in my yard this summer. I've got a whole army of lizards, frogs, spiders, and everything else. Thus, lots of competition. I think that helps.
 07/02/2017 04:54 AM
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Also, keep in mind the scale is down on the roots also. So soak it into the roots.
 07/02/2017 03:41 PM
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epicsurf

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I have given up after losing 5 or 6 crotons to scale. I have determined that it no longer belongs in my yard and I will be replacing them with natives. It was fun while it lasted. I tried coffee, soap/alcohol mixture and a systemic. All worked somewhat for a while but they always came back. Any recommendations for some nice understory plants to go beneath my palm and fruit tree jungle? Please no Broms either since they are mosquito breeders.
 07/03/2017 04:17 AM
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garcia

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I have a few types of iris that I love. Blue flag is a native and has a big bloom. I also have a couple of types of walking iris. The best thing I have in mottled shade (under my oaks and bananas) is pineapple. I have nine fruits this year. PM me and I can set you up with some of the iris.
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