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Topic Title: Horowitz Relents, Admits FISA Abuses Against Trump Aide 'Pretty Bad'
Topic Summary: Lets see how many phonies read the information yet dont comment! My bet: 54
Created On: 12/11/2019 07:27 PM
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 12/11/2019 07:27 PM
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Horowitz Relents, Admits FISA Abuses Against Trump Aide 'Pretty Bad'
By Carmine Sabia
Published December 11, 2019 at 2:21pm

The deep state cabal at the center of the FBI's probe into President Donald Trump should be apparent to anyone who has read the Inspector general's report.

The IG report, created by Inspector General Michael Horowitz, has been touted as evidence that no political bias occurred during the investigation into the president.

But when questioned by Republicans in the Senate, namely Sen. Mike Lee, Horowitz actually explained that that was not the case.
"Isn't the lack of evidence on bias, evidence that we really should take as bias? But it's ... in any event, it's certainly not itself indicative that no bias occurred, isn't that correct?" Sen. Lee said.

"As to the opening [of the probe], which is in a different place than the FISA issues that you have identified and I talked about earlier, I think it is two different situations," Horowitz said.

"On the FISA side, we found, as you noted, a lack of documentary and testimonial evidence about intentionality, but we noted the lack of satisfactory explanations, and in fact, leave open the possibility, for the reasons you indicated, it is unclear what the motivations were.

"On the one hand, gross incompetence, negligence; on the other hand intentionality, and we're in between - we weren't in a position with the evidence we had, to make that conclusion, but we are not ruling it out," he said.

"The lack of evidence here is not evidence that there is no bias." He said. "I am solely basing it - correct - on the actual evidence that we have."

You would be hard pressed to know that if you only get your information from CNN, because they have trumpeted the news as vindication for the FBI.

And it got even worse for the FBI when Horowitz was questioned by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz who asked if fraudulent evidence played a role in the investigation.

"So the men and women at home need to know what's happening," the senator said. "A lawyer at the FBI creates fraudulent evidence, alters an email, that is in turn used for the basis of a sworn statement to the court that the court relies on. Am I stating that accurately? "

"That's correct," Horowitz responded. "That is what occurred."
That is absurd. The top law enforcement agency in the nation and they used fraudulent evidence to investigate the President of the united States.

And because no one explicitly said that they were doing something because they were biased that is somehow evidence of no bias?
But when questioned by Sen. Lindsey Graham on the investigation into President Trump advisor carter Page Horowitz admitted that the abuses were "pretty bad."

"How would you describe the behavior here of knowing that the sub-source disavows the dossier that was the primary reason you got a warrant. Finding that a lawyer doctored an email to keep the investigation going in a way unfair to Mr. Page?" Sen. Graham said. "This was not routine, do you agree with that?"

"It is definitely not ... it certainly better not be routine, and I don't of any reason to think it is routine," Horowitz said.
"Is it kind of off-the-charts bad?" Sen. Graham said.
"It's pretty bad," Horowitz agreed.


It is lunacy to think that this occurred in the United States of America and not in some foreign banana republic.
And to think that the media, the fourth estate, is so corrupt that it perpetuates the myth that there is proof that there was no bias at the FBI is ludicrous.

It is a slap in the face to the intelligence of the American citizens and heads need to roll at the FBI to make certain it never happens again.

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 12/12/2019 11:31 AM
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32....getting there!

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 12/12/2019 05:28 PM
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Just checking in to see how your banishment is going. Still talking to yourself I see.

Hate to break it to you, but nobody is reading your drivel- they are probably doing the same thing I am- watching you have a conversation with yourself.

Now back to my regularly scheduled Dotard-Free December..

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 12/12/2019 06:04 PM
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137.....and NOBODY read it!

EPIC!

Yeah....I believe that fakefishkller!

Keep dreaming asshole!

2020...DONE!

FOOL!

Have fun in your 'circle jerk' that yall' are having, where EVERYONE totally agrees with your prog liberal commie anti-American rhetoric!

Thats ALL you have till Trump kicks your ass again!

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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
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Edited: 12/12/2019 at 06:11 PM by Fish Killer
 12/13/2019 09:24 AM
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"So the men and women at home need to know what's happening," the senator said. "A lawyer at the FBI creates fraudulent evidence, alters an email, that is in turn used for the basis of a sworn statement to the court that the court relies on. Am I stating that accurately? " "That's correct," Horowitz responded. "That is what occurred." That is absurd. The top law enforcement agency in the nation and they used fraudulent evidence to investigate the President of the united States. Finding that a lawyer doctored an email to keep the investigation going in a way unfair to Mr. Page?" Sen. Graham said. "This was not routine, do you agree with that?" "It is definitely not ... it certainly better not be routine, and I don't of any reason to think it is routine," Horowitz said. "Is it kind of off-the-charts bad?" Sen. Graham said. "It's pretty bad," Horowitz agreed. It is a slap in the face to the intelligence of the American citizens and heads need to roll at the FBI to make certain it never happens again.

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 12/17/2019 01:35 PM
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"The FBI's handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the [Office of Inspector General] report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above," Collyer wrote in her four-page order. "The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or contradicted by information in their possession, and with which they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable."

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...LZ0XW6RxQIf_Qk6ptZ0ICs

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
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-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 12/17/2019 at 01:35 PM by Fish Killer
 12/17/2019 02:53 PM
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Checking in to see that Gary's still talking to himself.

At least he stopped artificially inflating the post count.

Now back to the spam-free Dotardless December..



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 12/18/2019 05:59 AM
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The FISA COURT has now rebuked the FBI for false and misleading submittals...

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