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 11/13/2019 11:59 PM
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sandi

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The Senate has no backbone.

The will put Party before country.

It's politics. Facts don't matter...
 11/14/2019 04:52 AM
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Cole

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It really doesn't matter. Trump will rant and rave about his proven innocence via the Republican Senate, but his true colors will become glaringly clear during the heated parts of the election. The man is a whack job and he will no longer be able to avoid real public exposure. This will be a real eyeopener to those who don't pay much attention to politics and they will either vote accordingly or not vote at all.
 11/14/2019 05:43 AM
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KeyserSoze

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First time sandi got it right - -
- - but I agree with him/her.


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 11/14/2019 05:53 AM
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johnnyboy

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Trump is mortally wounded by this. The senate will not deliver the death blow because that would take a group of senators to put their humanity above their party. The death blow will happen at the election and the gravity surrounding the trump implosion will pull many of the cowards out of their party orbit and loyalty and down into the trump implosion. This impeachment was the beginning of a process and while it should have ended with Trump's removal, it will not despite foreshadowing his defeat at the polls. The most revealing aspect of this process will be when the GOP senators have to run on their record to get re-elected and they cannot answer how or why they never stood up for the beliefs that they must espouse to get re-elected. A reckoning is coming.

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 11/14/2019 06:33 AM
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tpapablo

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Ha. Even progs see that yesterday's proceedings were a dud. But in true prog fashion, they cannot see that their own stupidity is to blame Instead, they point the finger at the Senate.

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 11/14/2019 06:38 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Trump is mortally wounded by this.


Bwahahahahahahaha!

You're a frickin' MORON!

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 11/14/2019 06:38 AM
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somebodyelse

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sandi: The House has no backbone.. The have put Party before country. It's politics. Facts don't matter... COLE: It really doesn't matter. Pelosi/ Shumer will rant and rave about his Intent rather than facts in the Liberal Hose... JOHNNYBOY: The House will not put reality and facts above their party. Their lust for power will lead them into trying to invalidate a legal election...

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 11/14/2019 07:06 AM
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Sniper

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What if the hearings end up proving that there were good reasons that Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's activity should have been investigated?

Do you guys think this still damages Trump if he was trying to investigate real corruption?
 11/14/2019 07:11 AM
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3rdworldlover

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Yeah, no.

The facts are undeniable that Trump abused his power to extort a critical US/NATO ally to better his chances of winning the election, jeopardizing the security of Europe and the US.

Bribery as an impeachable offense, is written directly into the original constitution.
 11/14/2019 07:16 AM
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Sniper

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So, under no circumstances was Trump allowed to investigate corruption into Hunter Biden?
 11/14/2019 07:22 AM
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Sniper

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Hunter Biden has already said that he doesn't know why he was chosen for that position and that it was most likely because of his last name, at a time when his father was overseeing our involvement with Ukranian energy. Hunter Biden knew nothing about energy and nothing about Ukraine.

If one of Trump's kids started receiving millions of dollars from Ukraine or China for consulting on a subject they admit they know nothing about, would you afford them the same benefit of the doubt?

Would you want to impeach members of congress for asking for Ukraine's help in investigating the Trump Family?

There is a clear double-standard here. The Democrats are on a mission to get Trump thrown out of office by any means necesary and this is just the latest angle they are trying to use. This has nothing to do with this phone call or with Ukraine.

Edited: 11/14/2019 at 07:28 AM by Sniper
 11/14/2019 07:23 AM
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Pagerow

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Originally posted by: Sniper

So, under no circumstances was Trump allowed to investigate corruption into Hunter Biden?


I wouldn't say "under no circumstances..."

But he needs to go about it using the proper channels, using the proper investigative tools at his disposal (FBI, CIA, etc.). Not using his personal attorney.

BTW, please share with us what evidence do you have that he was *actually* investigating the Bidens in a proper manner, and not using it as a political tool...

Edited: 11/14/2019 at 07:45 AM by Pagerow
 11/14/2019 07:26 AM
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stokedpanda

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Originally posted by: Sniper

What if the hearings end up proving that there were good reasons that Hunter Biden and Joe Biden's activity should have been investigated?



Do you guys think this still damages Trump if he was trying to investigate real corruption?


if your fantasy "what if" scenario included that he legally investigated real corruption I doubt anyone would have a problem.

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 11/14/2019 08:37 AM
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Greensleeves

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sniper and tspank still clutching at straws that their party will never deliver. You dopes just go on adoring your fat misogynist god (hey that's Ivey too!) if it makes you comfy.



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 11/14/2019 08:37 AM
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johnnyboy

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Trump never once mentioned the word "corruption" in his request for a favor. Trump can and should look into corruption, beyond his own corruption, but he must use the means of the state for the benefit of the state. He cannot send his personal lawyer for his personal gain in the next election.

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 11/14/2019 10:26 AM
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tpapablo

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So, progs, what's your next line of attack? With all this alleged corruption, you have to have a wealth of choices. But this wasn't entirely in vain - it should help Trump and the GOP in next year's election. So give yourselves a pat on the back.

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 11/14/2019 10:34 AM
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fishkller

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

give yourselves a pat on the back.



We'll leave that to the expert, Pattycakes


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 11/14/2019 12:34 PM
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tpapablo

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Trump raised $3.1 million in small campaign donations yesterday. Thanks, progs

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 11/14/2019 12:52 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

The facts are undeniable that Trump abused his power to extort a critical US/NATO ally to better his chances of winning the election, jeopardizing the security of Europe and the US.


Liar!

Got any actual proof of that...or are we to just take your word for it?

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 11/14/2019 01:07 PM
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Greensleeves

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tspank giddy because a conman ripped off his fellow geezers for some change. That'll get your pacemaker workin!


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