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Topic Title: Stab in the F-ing back
Topic Summary: Syria bombing US allies in northern Syria
Created On: 10/09/2019 08:12 AM
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 10/09/2019 08:12 AM
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RustyTruck

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This is a day of shame for anyone who voted for this coward. Ergodan rolled right over him and trump agreed to get out of the way so Turkey could attack allies who fought side by side with us against ISIL.

Reports are they are bombing civilians and there are casualties.
This also plays right into the hands of Russia and Iran.

Trump is a little bitch, owned by Putin. I hope the Kurds can hold on.

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 10/09/2019 09:14 AM
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johnnyboy

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http://www.npr.org/2019/10/09/...urds-at-syrian-border

There are few times when a failure in leadership ends up killing people so directly and so quickly. Lindsay Graham thought he could direct the tweeter in chief and minimize his failures in leadership and intelligence. Now trump has given Erdogan the farm and he didn't even tell Graham. The strategy, the intel, the goals all shot to hell by a president who can only understand what's in it for him.

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 10/09/2019 09:16 AM
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wtf

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Yup, trump and his dotard cult are all un-American, un-patriotic traitors.

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 10/09/2019 09:23 AM
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WG

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Turkey, a Nato Allie got the go ahead from Trump to welsh on another promise made to our friends.
Not out pf character. Wonder how?

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 10/09/2019 09:46 AM
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gdudewe

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I wonder if Turkey is doing some investigation into some rightwing wet dream conspiracy for Trump. "yeah, I'll pull out. Just find that info on Biden."

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 10/09/2019 12:13 PM
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3rdworldlover

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Turkey says Trump knew 'precisely' about scope of N. Syria operation. "President Trump and President Erdogan have reached an understanding over precisely what this operation is," Gulnur Aybet, Senior Adviser to the President of Turkey told Amanpour
 10/09/2019 12:46 PM
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Jesus what a CUCK

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 10/10/2019 06:53 AM
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tpapablo

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Obama screwed the Kurds, but supported it back then. I minded then and now. It is good to have fundamental principles. Our lying, deceitful progs, however, have none. Don't vote for these vile sad sacks.

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 10/10/2019 07:25 AM
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RustyTruck

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You can sit down with that partisan National Review BS. If Obama screwed them then how could they currently occupy northern Syria, under attack from Turkey with express permission of trump?

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 10/10/2019 07:30 AM
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tpapablo

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Originally posted by: RustyTruck You can sit down with that partisan National Review BS. If Obama screwed them then how could they currently occupy northern Syria, under attack from Turkey with express permission of trump?
Read the article. It spells out exactly how Obama screwed them. You are lying again. Trump did not give Turkey permission to attack. "The United States does not endorse this attack and has made it clear to Turkey that this operation is a bad idea," Trump said. Progs always lie, folks. Why? Because people would tar and feather them, or worse, if they ever told you what they really have in mind. Think Cuba. Don't vote for them.

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 10/10/2019 10:42 PM
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Greensleeves

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Twitler selling out like a bitch to Erdogan to make some change. Shameful. Only disgusting twitler fan boyz left in his base.
 10/10/2019 11:40 PM
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sandi

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It's now a Humanitarian crisis.

What will Humanity do?
 10/11/2019 04:58 AM
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Sniper

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Just curious but what would have to have happened in order for those of you on the left to approve of us removing these troops?

In your minds, are we forever indebted to the Kurds? Should we have a military presence there until the end of time? If not, when are we supposed to end our occupation there? When the Muslim extremists finally decides that they are just tired of blowing shit up?

I'm not sure I approve of Trump's decision but I'm also not sure it is our role to babysit this region of the world indefinitely.

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Edited: 10/11/2019 at 04:59 AM by Sniper
 10/11/2019 05:32 AM
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johnnyboy

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Timing is everything. Trump could not have picked a worse issue or a worse time. As the bodies pile up and the Turks go deeper with the war crime, the GOP cannot tolerate this blatant failure in leadership. This was not part of a plan or strategy, the consequences were obvious and imminent and trump's recognition of the mistake with the toothless threat to destroy their economy for doing what he gave them permission to do is embarrassing domestically and internationally. The impeachment defense is similarly scattered and devoid of strategy or plan. They will both suffer the same fate for the same reasons.

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 10/11/2019 05:55 AM
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Cole

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But don't we expect this from Donald Trump?

http://www.newsweek.com/ivanka...a-controversy-1463536

As far as Obama, no, he didn't remove our soldiers so the Kurds could be wiped out. If he did, this would have happened long ago, but he didn't and the massacre of an ally in Syria didn't happen.

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 10/11/2019 05:57 AM
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Sniper

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Originally posted by: johnnyboy

Timing is everything. Trump could not have picked a worse issue or a worse time. As the bodies pile up and the Turks go deeper with the war crime, the GOP cannot tolerate this blatant failure in leadership. This was not part of a plan or strategy, the consequences were obvious and imminent and trump's recognition of the mistake with the toothless threat to destroy their economy for doing what he gave them permission to do is embarrassing domestically and internationally. The impeachment defense is similarly scattered and devoid of strategy or plan. They will both suffer the same fate for the same reasons.


Okay....when would have been a good time?

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 10/11/2019 06:00 AM
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johnnyboy

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When Russia wasn't seducing turkey out of NATO.

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