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06/20/2019 11:09 AM
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I've never liked the term liberal progressive as it doesn't portray the movement accurately at all. Democratic Socialist isn't exactly fitting either since there's nothing democratic about them. Totalitarian maybe but certainly not democratic. Bolshevik is almost a fitting term for a revolutionary group hell bent on inflicting the greatest harm possible on any and all opposition to their ideology. But that wouldn't be fair to the original Bolsheviks would it? Recalling history and how the Nazis used the socialist Red Front Fighters League to get a foot hold on political power in Germany, just before Himmler executed the Night of the Long Knives, it occurs to me that Nazi is the most fitting term for the ultra far left in this country today. Seems fair as well, since they use the term so frequently themselves, and have such a dislike for Christians and Jews.
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06/20/2019 11:25 AM
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can be liberal and not be progressive or socialist. cons do like to lump everyone together though. cant really complain though, we do it right back to cons it seems
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06/20/2019 11:31 AM
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------------------------- "I remember South Africa in the late 70's, sleeping on the beach at J-bay, smoking ganja with the blacks. On weekends we'd go to the pub in East London to drink beer and fight with the Afrikaners. They liked to fight, I liked to fight. It was a good time" |
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06/20/2019 01:11 PM
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------------------------- I :heart; Q |
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06/20/2019 01:33 PM
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Ok guys, pay attention. Socialism is an economic policy. It involves public ownership of infrastructure. It can be democratic, it can be authoritarian. Both have advanced the situation of workers, but authoritarians suck.
Capitalism is incompatible with democracy, but for superficial overtures designed to convince you that if you're poor and have a shit job it's your fault and don't look your betters in the eyes. The only thing that preserved capitalism in the U.S. past the 1930s was Roosevelt, the war, and the post war middle middle class. That's all gone. So... Socialism or barbarism. Prepare for either eventuality. Liberalism has failed spectacularly. Devotion to it may yet deliver barbarism more surely than the open fascists. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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06/20/2019 01:35 PM
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Ok guys, pay attention. Socialism is an economic policy. HELL NO IT ISN'T! LIAR! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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06/20/2019 02:03 PM
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FK is an imbecile, I doubt he has beyond a 6th grade education. Maybe he and Zoos could have a play date.
------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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06/20/2019 04:32 PM
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FK is an imbecile, I doubt he has beyond a 6th grade education. Maybe he and Zoos could have a play date. I doubt that YOU have more than a 3rd grade education! MORON!!!!!!! so·cial·ism [?s?SH??liz?m] NOUN a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole. synonyms: leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · [more] policy or practice based on the political and economic theory of socialism. synonyms: leftism · Fabianism · syndicalism · consumer socialism · utopian socialism · welfarism · communism · Bolshevism · radicalism · militancy · progressivism · [more] (in Marxist theory) a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of Communism. ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. Edited: 06/20/2019 at 04:34 PM by Fish Killer |
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06/20/2019 04:35 PM
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FK is an imbecile, I doubt he has beyond a 6th grade education. Maybe he and Zoos could have a play date. Oh...and didnt you claim to have me on ignore? LIAR! ------------------------- The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED. -BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is. -They are both card carrying narcissists. ^These are PROVED facts. |
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06/20/2019 05:31 PM
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I've never liked the term liberal progressive as it doesn't portray the movement accurately at all. Democratic Socialist isn't exactly fitting either since there's nothing democratic about them. Totalitarian maybe but certainly not democratic. Bolshevik is almost a fitting term for a revolutionary group hell bent on inflicting the greatest harm possible on any and all opposition to their ideology. But that wouldn't be fair to the original Bolsheviks would it? Recalling history and how the Nazis used the socialist Red Front Fighters League to get a foot hold on political power in Germany, just before Himmler executed the Night of the Long Knives, it occurs to me that Nazi is the most fitting term for the ultra far left in this country today. Seems fair as well, since they use the term so frequently themselves, and have such a dislike for Christians and Jews. Laughably stupid, and willfully, deliberately fat and ignorant: is no way to go thru life dork. Have you met a gulag tatooed former "bolshevist" Gilligan. How's bout a tatooed Nazi death camp holocaust survivor? Then: shut. the fuck. up.... Short attention, and life span seem to go hand in hand in the era of fat macdonnie Eat more big Macs and bacon. Drink more jack n beam. And wank to lush, tucker girlson, and comrade spammity every day. Please Keep chumpfscum magats lame.....and dyin.... duuhhh ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax Edited: 06/20/2019 at 06:05 PM by nukeh2o |
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06/20/2019 06:25 PM
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Ok guys, pay attention. Socialism is an economic policy. It involves public ownership of infrastructure. It can be democratic, it can be authoritarian. Both have advanced the situation of workers, but authoritarians suck. Capitalism is incompatible with democracy, but for superficial overtures designed to convince you that if you're poor and have a shit job it's your fault and don't look your betters in the eyes. The only thing that preserved capitalism in the U.S. past the 1930s was Roosevelt, the war, and the post war middle middle class. That's all gone. So... Socialism or barbarism. Prepare for either eventuality. Liberalism has failed spectacularly. Devotion to it may yet deliver barbarism more surely than the open fascists. Need the overall full bib waders to slog thru the pigshit on this particular post on this forum today... "Liberalism has failed spectacularly. Devotion to it may yet deliver barbarism more surely than the open fascists" Laughably stupid. Marxist/ leninist nonsense has always: failed. Unless supported by a totalitarian, essentially fascist regime. This is just as lame as chumpfdirtism ------------------------- It's a democratic hoax |
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06/20/2019 06:42 PM
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I am baffled that any person can look at reality and come up with something as wacked out as that Zues.
Bu then again, it's so out of favor for Trumpists to look at reality. Maybe you need to try it again. Most of the civilized free market economy world has more socialist safety nets that we do. Pretending they don't work is stupid, we all know that they do. So you have to look for the communists, call them socialist. and run away from reality. sad and stupid, some of the saddest and stupidest BS seen here yet But the usual even sadder folks loved it of course. The "dislike for christians and jews" lie is especially offensive coming from a party whose leader thinks Nazis are fine people. The Nazis that tried to start shit at the Trump "make America Hate again" rally at Amway were wearing MAGA hats. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill Edited: 06/20/2019 at 06:47 PM by WG |
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06/20/2019 07:07 PM
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Marxist/ leninist nonsense has always: failed. Unless supported by a totalitarian, essentially fascist regime. This is just as lame as chumpfdirtism Which case of "Marxist/ leninist nonsense" failed unless supported by a totalitarian facist regime?' Seems to me that all of them start up as such, and thus fail. Like Russia. Like China, like NK. Like venezueala and cuba not like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, canada, UK,,,,, strong socialist safety nets keep thier economies strong, people happy We can catch up. Capitalist economies without democratic traditions, (which lead to corrections of failures) don't keep up either. They often result in socialist dictators replacing capitalist ones The states that choose some sort of socialist safety net democratically are doing great. (like our SS, medicaid, medicare, VA...) or the more expansive health care for all systems like most of Europe. Socialism without the totalitarian leadership that the right seems to like so much works well when applied to stuff that the private sector fails at. ------------------------- "The truth is incontrovertible. malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is." -Sir Winston Churchill |
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06/20/2019 10:27 PM
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Ok guys, pay attention. Socialism is an economic policy. It involves public ownership of infrastructure. It can be democratic, it can be authoritarian. Both have advanced the situation of workers, but authoritarians suck. Capitalism is incompatible with democracy, but for superficial overtures designed to convince you that if you're poor and have a shit job it's your fault and don't look your betters in the eyes. The only thing that preserved capitalism in the U.S. past the 1930s was Roosevelt, the war, and the post war middle middle class. That's all gone. So... Socialism or barbarism. Prepare for either eventuality. Liberalism has failed spectacularly. Devotion to it may yet deliver barbarism more surely than the open fascists. Need the overall full bib waders to slog thru the pigshit on this particular post on this forum today... "Liberalism has failed spectacularly. Devotion to it may yet deliver barbarism more surely than the open fascists" Laughably stupid. Marxist/ leninist nonsense has always: failed. Unless supported by a totalitarian, essentially fascist regime. This is just as lame as chumpfdirtism It's tough to face the reality that liberalism hasn't worked, but bringing in Marx and Lenin doesn't make sense. Marx was a philosopher, not a politician, and he's quite well known. I'd argue he has been wildly successful. ------------------------- Capitalism is based on the ridiculous notion that you can enjoy limitless growth in a closed, finite system. In biology, such behavior of cells is called "cancer". |
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06/21/2019 04:48 AM
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Creative types seem to hate them the most. Think about all the songs that couldn't have been written today and all the books that couldn't have been written. Real comedy is basically going underground so comedians can speak to people who actually understand their craft and aren't going to try to ruin their lives for saying something edgy.
------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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06/21/2019 04:55 AM
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06/21/2019 05:00 AM
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06/21/2019 05:08 AM
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There are so many good tv shows and movies that couldn't have been done today. Try to release Easy Does It today. How does that work out? lol Most labels probably wouldn't touch any 80's or 90's rap today with a ten-foot pole.
------------------------- "The government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul," - George Bernard Shaw “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f—k things up.” - Barack Obama “End of quote. Repeat the line.” - wise words from Joe Biden |
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06/21/2019 05:24 AM
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Meanwhile, playing next door on the music page, courtesy of that bastion of big government media and creative suppression, NPR, Mac.
------------------------- add a signature since I'm here in profile anyway Edited: 06/21/2019 at 05:37 AM by tom |
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06/21/2019 05:50 AM
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Creative types seem to hate them the most. Think about all the songs that couldn't have been written today and all the books that couldn't have been written. Real comedy is basically going underground so comedians can speak to people who actually understand their craft and aren't going to try to ruin their lives for saying something edgy. Good, I thought you guys had forgotten all about wanting Trump to do away with PC. As I recall, that was the reason many of you were voting for him. Is it working out for you? ------------------------- I was right. |
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