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Topic Title: "We have what I would call a concentration camp system"
Topic Summary: “a mass detention of civilians without trial.”
Created On: 06/14/2019 08:35 AM
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 06/17/2019 03:09 AM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover



Is it illegal to seek asylum? Should we start locking people up in overcrowded prisons, indefinitely, without a trial, for speeding? Undocumented immigration is a minor civil infraction. Give them a citation and a court date and let them go, unless there is evidence an individual has a dangerous criminal history or is a security risk.




Is it illegal to shut down our failed immigration system and only let in the ones we want...vetted and medically and psychologically checked out?


If we are vetting, then you gotta go!

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 06/17/2019 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

Is it illegal to seek asylum? Should we start locking people up in overcrowded prisons, indefinitely, without a trial, for speeding? Undocumented immigration is a minor civil infraction. Give them a citation and a court date and let them go, unless there is evidence an individual has a dangerous criminal history or is a security risk.


No just be legal
 06/17/2019 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover As soon as you get people comparing other groups to animals or insects, or using language about advancing hordes...it's creating the sense of this enormous threat. And that makes it much easier to sell to people on the idea we've got to do something drastic... The longer they're there, the worse conditions get.... As you see mental health crises and contagious diseases begin to set in, they'll work to manage the worst of it. [But] then there will be the ability to tag these people as diseased, even if we created [those conditions]. Pictures published with the report show women packed tightly together in a holding cell. We also observed detainees standing on toilets in the cells to make room and gain breathing space, thus limiting access to toilets," the watchdog wrote. This was at Paso del Norte, a facility near El Paso, which has a stated capacity of 125 detainees. But when DHS inspectors visited, it was holding 900. When migrants & asylum-seekers are transferred to ICE, things get worse. Queer and trans migrants face exceptionally harsh treatment, w/reports of high levels of physical and sexual abuse, & the use of solitary confinement - considered torture by many psychologists - is widespread." http://www.esquire.com/news-po...Lo3oeMmNRNF_7M4P6TNjfA
Doesn't bother me a bit. They have a choice - come or not come.

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 06/17/2019 07:16 AM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover

As soon as you get people comparing other groups to animals or insects, or using language about advancing hordes...it's creating the sense of this enormous threat. And that makes it much easier to sell to people on the idea we've got to do something drastic... The longer they're there, the worse conditions get.... As you see mental health crises and contagious diseases begin to set in, they'll work to manage the worst of it. [But] then there will be the ability to tag these people as diseased, even if we created [those conditions].



Pictures published with the report show women packed tightly together in a holding cell. We also observed detainees standing on toilets in the cells to make room and gain breathing space, thus limiting access to toilets," the watchdog wrote. This was at Paso del Norte, a facility near El Paso, which has a stated capacity of 125 detainees. But when DHS inspectors visited, it was holding 900. When migrants & asylum-seekers are transferred to ICE, things get worse. Queer and trans migrants face exceptionally harsh treatment, w/reports of high levels of physical and sexual abuse, & the use of solitary confinement - considered torture by many psychologists - is widespread."



http://www.esquire.com/news-po...Lo3oeMmNRNF_7M4P6TNjfA


Doesn't bother me a bit. They have a choice - come or not come.


I think you mean it doesn't effect you directly so fuck do you care, That's your normal stance. If you don't benefit from it directly then get rid of it.

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 06/17/2019 07:30 AM
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I meant that it doesn't bother me a bit. It is exactly what should happen to them. Also, it most likely doesn't bother you a bit (it certainly didn't warrant any outrage when it was happening under Obama). You guys are merely using this as yet another way to hit at Trump. If a dem was president, you wouldn't be saying a thing. We all know that.

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 06/17/2019 07:40 AM
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Cole

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Obama didn't do this.

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 06/17/2019 07:52 AM
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3rdworldlover

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It was happening under Obama and Bush, all stemming from an overreaction to 9/11. But Trump has taken it to an extreme with intentional family separations and checkpoints across the country. The most disturbing part of the article talks about how hard it is to undo this, citing how it wasn't possible to close Gitmo.
 06/17/2019 08:04 AM
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Cole

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I hoped Obama would fight to do away with the Patriot Act, but it never happened. That being said, he didn't lose children or pack asylum seekers away in private prisons.

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 06/17/2019 08:39 AM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: tpapablo

I meant that it doesn't bother me a bit. It is exactly what should happen to them. Also, it most likely doesn't bother you a bit (it certainly didn't warrant any outrage when it was happening under Obama). You guys are merely using this as yet another way to hit at Trump. If a dem was president, you wouldn't be saying a thing. We all know that.


Are you fucking kidding me. The so called right wingers did and are still doing shit flips over Obama, You stupid shits flipped out because he order French mustard, wore a tan suit, played golf (way less than the cheating Cheeto)This could fill pages. So, shut the fuck up about what we complain about. You have it coming, and the imbecile you put in office has earned every bit of scrutiny he gets. He loves it! He will get caught in all of his lies.

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 06/17/2019 11:41 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: gdudewe

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover







Is it illegal to seek asylum? Should we start locking people up in overcrowded prisons, indefinitely, without a trial, for speeding? Undocumented immigration is a minor civil infraction. Give them a citation and a court date and let them go, unless there is evidence an individual has a dangerous criminal history or is a security risk.








Is it illegal to shut down our failed immigration system and only let in the ones we want...vetted and medically and psychologically checked out?




If we are vetting, then you gotta go!


Sorry DIPSHIT....I was born here.

So was my mother and grandmother.

I can clearly see that you dont know or understand the definition of the word immigration.

You're an idiot of the highest order!

FOOL!



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Edited: 06/17/2019 at 11:41 AM by Fish Killer
 06/17/2019 12:08 PM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: gdudewe



Originally posted by: Fish Killer







Originally posted by: 3rdworldlover















Is it illegal to seek asylum? Should we start locking people up in overcrowded prisons, indefinitely, without a trial, for speeding? Undocumented immigration is a minor civil infraction. Give them a citation and a court date and let them go, unless there is evidence an individual has a dangerous criminal history or is a security risk.
















Is it illegal to shut down our failed immigration system and only let in the ones we want...vetted and medically and psychologically checked out?








If we are vetting, then you gotta go!




Sorry DIPSHIT....I was born here.



So was my mother and grandmother.



I can clearly see that you dont know or understand the definition of the word immigration.



You're an idiot of the highest order!



FOOL!


I just think we should get rid of jackass's like you.

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 06/17/2019 12:51 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: gdudewe
I just think we should get rid of jackass's like you.


My feelings about you are much worse.

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 06/17/2019 01:24 PM
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gdudewe

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Originally posted by: Fish Killer

Originally posted by: gdudewe

I just think we should get rid of jackass's like you.




My feelings about you are much worse.


Oh, do tell.

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 06/17/2019 03:54 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: gdudewe

Originally posted by: Fish Killer



Originally posted by: gdudewe



I just think we should get rid of jackass's like you.








My feelings about you are much worse.




Oh, do tell.


Are you that stupid?



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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
 06/17/2019 07:28 PM
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Cole

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Jesus said turn the other cheek.

I don't recall the part about hate.

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 06/17/2019 07:58 PM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Jesus said turn the other cheek.



I don't recall the part about hate.


Yeah...Did Jesus 'turn the other cheek' with the Pharisee and Sadducees?

Hell no!

FOOL!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 06/17/2019 at 07:59 PM by Fish Killer
 06/18/2019 04:29 AM
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Cole

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Is anyone on here a Pharisee or Sadducee?

Yes or no.

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 06/18/2019 04:30 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Is anyone on here a Pharisee or Sadducee?



Yes or no.


HELL YES!

YOU are one of the HEAD PHARISEE!

Why dont you twist a bit of Scripture for us today!

MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.

Edited: 06/18/2019 at 04:31 AM by Fish Killer
 06/18/2019 04:34 AM
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Cole

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Did Jesus strike out against all Pharisee or just a select group in the temple?




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 06/18/2019 10:51 AM
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Fish Killer

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Originally posted by: Cole

Did Jesus strike out against all Pharisee or just a select group in the temple?


The select group is right here!

It's called NSR!

Hypocrites to the MAX!

LIARS to the MAX!

CHEATS to the MAX!

Thieves to the MAX!

MORONS OF EPIC PROPORTION!

YOU are the head MORON!

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The REAL truth is....both of the forum idiots are OWNED.
-BOTH of them have no clue who their owner is.
-They are both card carrying narcissists.
^These are PROVED facts.
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